NBA Live 14 News Post

If NBA Live Has a Future, It Has to Look Radically Different

01:53 PM - December 6, 2013 by RaychelSnr

EA Sports had a clear opening opening with NBA Live 14, and they didn’t even realize it.

NBA 2K14 fumbled its launch about as much as 2K Sports could manage, which is to say — there are still some problems, a few of which are quite serious which consumers are facing, but the game is largely quite good.

Connectivity issues, save file issues with MyCAREER, crashes, and some old legacy gameplay issues are hampering the product at this point. A patch has fixed some issues, but many remain it appears.

In all reality, there is a lot you can find wrong with NBA 2K14 if you look hard enough.

And despite the wasted opportunity this year, it's now clear there have been key areas of mismanagement which plague the NBA Live series, and until each is fixed individually, this series has no future.

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# 141 Pared @ 12/10/13 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FLIGHTWHITE


	Now you know if I had an issue with you I would have pm'd you. Of course you Mods tick me off at times but I'd rather have you around keeping myself included in order. I have crossed the line a time or 2 and I'm not perfect. If everyone agreed on everything this would be one boring forum. Sent from my iPhone

Sorry I was busy replying to your PM.

It's all gravy. Personally, I think some (including WTF) are just fed up with the extra bull in 2k and like the "complexity in the simplicity" in Live. It happens as you get older and I find myself no longer interested in altering rosters and publishing sliders for others to argue about and so on and so forth.

But me saying that could be taken the wrong way so I've held that one back until now. It's not a slight, it's just how I see it. I don't see anything that is being mentioned here so I guess I am just blind in that sense. I think some guys here have a solid opinion and I like hearing them explain it. I know Dre and I didn't see eye to eye on the direction of Live and 2k (and this was when I was visiting EA!). I genuinely wanted us to have more options and better games that weren't copies of one another; you would still have similarities because they were emulating bball but there WAS a way to do it. If only EA listened to feedback more closely.

We probably wouldn't be where we are today. I honestly don't know how many times EA is going to keep going with a game that sells this poorly. I bet you they would make more money selling this in the App Store than on the PS4 and XB1.

# 142 DonWuan @ 12/10/13 06:37 PM

I though the NBA determined price.

Even though I got it for about half off, as of today I would pay 60. When demo dropped, a big no.

But I knew I wasn't picking up 2k till 2k15. I play on PC though but 95% of that game is cosmetic.

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# 143 nick_sr @ 12/10/13 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	...and for the record coming in here with more 2k stuff has no bearing on the article at hand and its off topic. This game has enough issues within itself and im sorry WTF... there are a ton of things that have been shown already that isnt fixed with synergy that are expoloitable in itself that shouldn't be there. You guys can keep picking on other games and ignoring the flaws in this one all day, but the truth of the matter is, this one is the only nex gen game in danger of falling off the map at this point.

"You guys can keep picking on other games and ignoring the flaws in this one all day"

I find this very ironic

# 144 DonWuan @ 12/10/13 07:11 PM

Who is ignoring flaws?

Hey thousands of people still play WarZ/Infested everyday.

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# 145 JoeDog10 @ 12/10/13 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blackceasar


	I guess what all of this boils down to amongst the "basketball experts" The Live Fanboys, the 2k Fanboys, the people from EA signing up in secret on here to praise the game, and then the regular real OS members.... I have one question for you... do you feel EA Sports is legitmately warranted in asking for a full 59.99 for this year's title? That's all want to know. Yes or no. No "you just need to learn to play the game"... or "Iv'e seen this game do things I haven't seen in a basketball game in 10 years"... or EA Sucks 2k RULES!!!... Do you think EA should charge people full price for this game.. I don't mean the "patched" version. I mean that game that people actually dropped their money on.. the game that's on the disk.. not the patches that are "in the works".. 60.00... yes or no. It's a legitimate question seeing that not all games launch at full price... so I wanna know.

Of the two next gen basketball games, why do I always see so many people either questioning or saying this isn't worth $60? The only reason I put so much time into this game in the first place is because that other game - the one with the pretty graphics - is completely broken (figuratively and at times literally, too). And since I purchased this game, I haven't had the slightest itch to even play the other one.

I realize 90% of the board doesn't like this game, and that's fine. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm not here to try and change anyone's mind or "justify" my purchase. If I couldn't afford to throw $60 away on a game, I sure as hell wouldn't have purchased a $400 system. But for me, it's totally been worth my $60 while the other game has turned into an expensive coaster.

# 146 23 @ 12/10/13 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nick_sr


	"You guys can keep picking on other games and ignoring the flaws in this one all day" I find this very ironic

What's ironic is how you continue supporting games that sell poorly and get cancelled and you take a piece of an entire post to pick out something to attach your agenda too.

At least say something worth posting in the thread on the topic. Couldn't have been more obvious.

Like Pared stated it doesn't matter if you individually agree with reviews or not..... There is just not enough support for this and people are speaking more loudly with their pocketbooks than you're willing to let off because you're having fun.

It's not rocket science.

Galaxy Note 2

# 147 JBulls @ 12/10/13 09:01 PM

I think Andrew Wilson supports this project. If he is actually going to attempt to pursue Live's development into the future he's gonna have a hard time convincing investors to pour more money into it though if he hasn't already, and if that's how the internal process goes at EA.

# 148 nick_sr @ 12/10/13 09:52 PM

there's a group of posters on this site with an agenda, not me bruh

# 149 Boilerbuzz @ 12/10/13 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Poopador


	nba live 13 was officially canceled on 9/27/2012 so im not sure where youre getting the two years from. granted no one outside of ea knows for sure how long this team has had to work on this game but i find it hard to believe they were working on this with a new team while live 13 was still in development.

This part is right and off a little. Yes, they cancelled Live 13. But that project rolled directly into Live 14. For EA to imply otherwise is disingenuous in my opinion. And that's what they do when they say they only had a year. Yeah, for "Live 14".

# 150 Boilerbuzz @ 12/10/13 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FLIGHTWHITE


	You need to do your research before posting/giving advice. Check BestBuys trade in. $40. If you were talking about GameStop. Then you are correct. I always check BB Sent from my iPhone

He clearly said GameStop.

# 151 KG @ 12/10/13 11:30 PM

How do you know if you have the Synergy demo? I dl'd the demo today and immediately noticed players just standing idle on the court.

# 152 DonWuan @ 12/10/13 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KG


	How do you know if you have the Synergy demo? I dl'd the demo today and immediately noticed players just standing idle on the court.

One thing that the demo doesn't include is auto movement setting(can't think of name).

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# 153 noshun @ 12/10/13 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nick_sr


	"You guys can keep picking on other games and ignoring the flaws in this one all day" I find this very ironic

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Originally Posted by nick_sr


	there's a group of posters on this site with an agenda, not me bruh

Per your twitter:

irony indeed

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 30 Nov
@ThaLiveKing 13. That game might have live on graphics but that **** don't play like real ball. The community is brainwashed

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 30 Nov
After just playinh 2k, i will never play that crap game again as long as nba live is around lol

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 25 Nov
Who gave these clowns review credentials?

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 25 Nov
@ScottOGallagher a 3.5 ? Dont know how you let these guys thrash a beautiful game like @EASPORTSNBA live 14 smh

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 22 Nov
"@CuffsTheLegend: Give NBA Live 14 and the #LonelyBarber a chance today"nba live is authentic!

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 20 Nov
Ign is some haters! Gn

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 20 Nov
@ScottOGallagher @EASPORTSNBA finally downloaded the demo. Now that's how basketball is suppose to play #greatjob

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 19 Nov
"@ThaLiveKing: @therealknickz can't play their game cause the servers ain't working in 2K. They need something to do lol"lol

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 16 Nov
@OptimusP76 2k fans are nothing but haters bruh!!! These are like some pest!

Nick Sr 84 ‏@therealknickz 16 Nov
@ThaLiveKing not me. I need a basketball game until @MLBTheShow 14 drops. Refuse to buy that gimmick *** 2k game lol

SLA..

# 154 DonWuan @ 12/10/13 11:59 PM

You looked up someone's twitter? I must be getting old (27). Speaks volume's

Once again I do agree with OP.

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# 155 noshun @ 12/11/13 12:01 AM

he put it out there for the world to see, so its fair game. anything else?

# 156 King_B_Mack @ 12/11/13 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DonWuan


	You looked up someone's twitter? I must be getting old (27). Speaks volume's Once again I do agree with OP. Sent from my M353 using Tapatalk

Or he could follow him and saw it on his newsfeed and remembered seeing that from him. Just a thought.

# 157 DonWuan @ 12/11/13 12:09 AM

Right.......

Moment I seen that, Ray Liotta 1800 commercial ran through my mind.

But I do agree with everyone. No excuses come Live 15 release.

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# 158 DogWillHunt @ 12/11/13 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	First sign that the thread is dying: the parrots come out.

You might eat these words.

Dare I say, the animation is beginning to look great?

# 159 Sundown @ 12/11/13 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by El_Poopador


	fans dont prefer it because its not pretty and its not what theyre used to. the problem is that no one gives it a chance because of the graphics. the few people on here who have gone back to play it since 2k doesnt work have said its much better than they originally thought.

I played the Live demo and thought it looked and felt like an abomination, but that there were some promising animations.

I played it again later with a friend and discovered how terrible the actual basketball is with hop step cheese. Still, some of the animations looked kind of okay in moments if I didn't concentrate too hard.

I played it one more time while waiting for a 2K patch to download-- I was curious about Synergy updates and just wanted to mess around mindlessly for a few minutes. I wasn't even sure on the positives I saw previously. It looked worse AND played worse than even I remembered even when I wasn't trying overly hard to be critical. It's a bad looking, bad playing, bad feeling basketball game that doesn't even appear to be as good as Live 10.

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Originally Posted by WTF


	If you fellas are happy with that type of ball game, then that's fine. I will applaud EA for everything that it's doing, sans the graphics. If this game came out swinging with the graphics of NBA 2k, or better, and with a tutorial/practice mode, you'd see a LOT more guys on the forums over here. But it doesn't look next gen. It's not pretty. But it plays a damn good game of basketball.

No it doesn't.

Unless hopstep circus layups with Andrew Bynum is good basketball.

Terrible defense, horrible dribbling model, off-ball AI that does nothing (is this a demo only thing?), AI defenders that seem disinterested in contesting, AI forgetting to shoot the ball when quarters run down, zero explosiveness in player movement, not to mention all the bad animations that equal a bad simulation of player interactions.

A lot of the 2K issues can at least be mitigated by sliders and difficulty levels even though momentum has always been too strong in the game. But when the most effective move is to hopstep repeatedly regardless of player or handles, Live does not look or play like any semblance of good basketball. With all due respect, it seems that your frustration and familiarity with 2K's flaws have completely blinded you to everything that is more poorly done in Live in almost every aspect of the game outside of a few nice pass animations.

# 160 El_Poopador @ 12/11/13 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundown


	I played the Live demo and thought it looked and felt like an abomination, but that there were some promising animations. I played it again later with a friend and discovered how terrible the actual basketball is with hop step cheese. Still, some of the animations looked kind of okay in moments if I didn't concentrate too hard. I played it one more time while waiting for a 2K patch to download-- I was curious about Synergy updates and just wanted to mess around mindlessly for a few minutes. I wasn't even sure on the positives I saw previously. It looked worse AND played worse than even I remembered even when I wasn't trying overly hard to be critical. It's a bad looking, bad playing, bad feeling basketball game that doesn't even appear to be as good as Live 10. No it doesn't. Unless hopstep circus layups with Andrew Bynum is good basketball. Terrible defense, horrible dribbling model, off-ball AI that does nothing (is this a demo only thing?), AI defenders that seem disinterested in contesting, AI forgetting to shoot the ball when quarters run down, zero explosiveness in player movement, not to mention all the bad animations that equal a bad simulation of player interactions. A lot of the 2K issues can at least be mitigated by sliders and difficulty levels even though momentum has always been too strong in the game. But when the most effective move is to hopstep repeatedly regardless of player or handles, Live does not look or play like any semblance of good basketball. With all due respect, it seems that your frustration and familiarity with 2K's flaws have completely blinded you to everything that is more poorly done in Live in almost every aspect of the game outside of a few nice pass animations.

i think everyone has agreed the hop step is an issue. but we also remember the spin dunk from nba 2k11 that was the hop step of that game. yet it is still regarded by many as the best basketball game ever.

you say terrible ai but from what ive seen the play to play ai is pretty decent. theyre not disinterested in contesting. they just cant warp/slide into position for a good contest every time. is the ai perfect? far from it. and not taking that last shot of the quarter is definitely an issue. but for the most part the ai plays pretty realistically.

personally i like the dribbling system. but i do agree about the explosiveness on the first step. again no one here is saying that the game is flawless. we all agree the game has issues. but it also does a lot well.

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