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NBA Live 14 Review (PS4/XB1)

10:16 AM - November 25, 2013 by RaychelSnr

Think of the children. Think of the kid who plays for the school basketball team or the weekend Church league.

Think of his parents, or maybe one of his relatives, out at the local shopping mall, stopping by an electronics store and buying that kid NBA Live 14 for Christmas.

Think long and think hard about what you've done, Electronic Arts.

Were the few thousand copies NBA Live 14 will inevitably sell to mom or dad or to aunt Suzy worth the disappointment of a few thousand kids on Christmas Day?

You know the answer. You know what you've done.

And sports gamers will remember. Especially the younger ones.

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# 41 Boilerbuzz @ 11/25/13 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundown


	Boiler, you were MUCH too generous regarding your impressions of Bounce-tek at E3. It's straight up terrible. The OS review says it best-- it feels like a bunch of mocaps slapped together with no fluidity. It's actually one of the worst parts of the game. Its only redeeming feature is watching some semi nice animations when you do manage to wrestle it into doing what you want to get by a defender. And the no-warping real ball physics is practically a lie too.

I was trying to be nice, man. I wanted to give the devs the benefit of the doubt. Remember what I said - a LOT was going to depend on how much they were going to hold to the mantra of being "physics driven" on the bounce. As you can tell, they had to come off of it a bit to try to find a balance between responsiveness. And, as you can tell, it's not there yet. What I played at the booth was a guy in a vacuum. And you remember me wondering what it would feel like with defenders around and things happening. Out of respect for their effort, I made a concerted effort not to bash, but remember the comments aimed at me for "going out of my way to not say something positive"? Well, now you see why.

# 42 Kaanyr Vhok @ 11/25/13 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by yungflo


	EA Be Like : Please add BR to the metacritic

I know right? Welllz

# 43 Boilerbuzz @ 11/25/13 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by noshun


	The reason for what i highlighted is because youre a "*struggle Live apologist*".. you dont offer any feedback to the devs about what you like and dislike that would help improve Live (in this forum, correct me if im wrong). This review details about everything liked & disliked.

THIS is my thing. If they REALLY cared to make the game better, they would spend as much time constructively criticizing the game as they do defending the game from trolling. Instead, they spend their time arguing down the others that ARE giving constructive criticism painting those guys are haters and trolls. When someone says the game looks awful, it's vague, but still criticism. When someone says it looks like PS1 and the engineers should be fired, that is clear trolling. They should attack THOSE dudes if they feel trolls warrant their attention. Again - it's "fans" like that that has Madden stuck in mud. It's getting better, but where it is now is where it should have been 6 years ago!

# 44 Sundown @ 11/25/13 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack


	Here's your culprits. These two are widely considered two of, if not the two worst games ever made. If you like them, then hey, that's your choice and your money. People will laugh, sure, but that's your choice. When you start trying to defend these games however as if they're actually good games though, that's where the problem lies. This is what's going on with Live. People like the game and that's their business but don't sit here and try to tell the rest of the world that it's a good game and not as bad as everyone says or their just biased against the game because you like it and they don't.

Hahaha. I remember the Superman game. I think that's waaay to harsh on Live. At least Live attempts some semblance to the property it's trying to emulate. Oh man. The game not being able to draw past a few yards explained away as "Kryptonite fog".

# 45 mrclutch @ 11/25/13 11:11 PM

thanks for the review. Sorry you had to play 20 hours.
I was still holding on to some hope until I read this thread.
It's amazing how there are no sliders. I'm trying to remember the last hoops season the major games didn't have them. Anyone else know?

Shame they butchered the game this bad. Seems to spell another death for the franchise.

# 46 RandyBass @ 11/26/13 12:08 AM

I for one am going to take this opportunity to refrain from piling on, as tempting as that may be. Instead I'm going to look at the bigger picture. In the past five to ten years or so we've seen the sports video game genre dwindle down to almost nothing. Flagship franchises, highly regarded titles, sports gamers' dreams, have one by one fallen by the wayside. These new systems were supposed to turn the tide; they were supposed to be easy for developer's to work with, and therefore easy for publishers to get behind and support. Instead we get this dud of an effort.

So what does this point to? Who is to blame? I'm not sure now is the time to go down that road, because this here release is an indicator. It's a sign of an industry that is not in good health. Yes there is optimism abound, especially from those whose job it is to state it as such, but what about the reality? The reality is we have a real stinker of a game at a time when there probably shouldn't be. The reality is at a time when interest in video games is perhaps at an all time high, with money flowing into the industry in great abundance, a release like this is all that can be mustered. I can't see this as a good thing for gaming.

# 47 Boilerbuzz @ 11/26/13 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyBass


	I for one am going to take this opportunity to refrain from piling on, as tempting as that may be. Instead I'm going to look at the bigger picture. In the past five to ten years or so we've seen the sports video game genre dwindle down to almost nothing. Flagship franchises, highly regarded titles, sports gamers' dreams, have one by one fallen by the wayside. These new systems were supposed to turn the tide; they were supposed to be easy for developer's to work with, and therefore easy for publishers to get behind and support. Instead we get this dud of an effort. So what does this point to? Who is to blame? I'm not sure now is the time to go down that road, because this here release is an indicator. It's a sign of an industry that is not in good health. Yes there is optimism abound, especially from those whose job it is to state it as such, but what about the reality? The reality is we have a real stinker of a game at a time when there probably shouldn't be. The reality is at a time when interest in video games is perhaps at an all time high, with money flowing into the industry in great abundance, a release like this is all that can be mustered. I can't see this as a good thing for gaming.

I think this is an over-simplification. Why are sport franchises dwindling? Let's look at each case.

1. Some titles just aren't very good. In the face of the competition, where a market is pretty saturated, only the top 2 titles can really survive any particular sport, save soccer. That market is gigantic. Football can support 2 evenly matched competitive products.

2. Exclusive licenses. This factor more so than the other is the main reason you see only 1 title in most sport genre.

3. Rising cost of making games. Plus the fact that the leagues are trying to get bigger cuts. This makes it near impossible for upstart teams to make a game.

4. Small market. As popular as baseball and hockey are, the size of the video game market for those sports just don't support more than 1 title. The second title won't make enough money. This is what happened to NHL 2K. NASCAR - for as popular as it was, wasn't making enough money for EA to continue. What do you think is happening to golf? Tennis is every other year at best! Not many of those fans play video games.

# 48 RandyBass @ 11/26/13 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	I think this is an over-simplification. Why are sport franchises dwindling? Let's look at each case. 1. Some titles just aren't very good. In the face of the competition, where a market is pretty saturated, only the top 2 titles can really survive any particular sport, save soccer. That market is gigantic. Football can support 2 evenly matched competitive products. 2. Exclusive licenses. This factor more so than the other is the main reason you see only 1 title in most sport genre. 3. Rising cost of making games. Plus the fact that the leagues are trying to get bigger cuts. This makes it near impossible for upstart teams to make a game. 4. Small market. As popular as baseball and hockey are, the size of the video game market for those sports just don't support more than 1 title. The second title won't make enough money. This is what happened to NHL 2K. NASCAR - for as popular as it was, wasn't making enough money for EA to continue. What do you think is happening to golf? Tennis is every other year at best! Not many of those fans play video games.

Huh? Was that supposed to be a response to me?

All I did was point out that at a time when the industry should be riding high, it churns out a game that by most accounts is barely playable.

Considering I made no real claims as to the reasoning behind this, how then can it be an oversimplification?

# 49 jwtucker710 @ 11/26/13 07:17 AM

What was EA Sports thinking? Here's the deal, and where they may be stuck with their attempt at developing a bb sim: they decided to go forward with LIVE and didn't have much of a production team and Sean O'Brien (who's worked on LIVE in the heyday and on NCAA BB, which is kind of baffling why this sim was so bad). They took the NBA Elite build and used the Next-Gen programming (probably very limited of what they had to use) and just wanted to put something out.
They better improve it; just wrong for them to hype it up and expect people to get back on board. And I do think people, overall, liked the LIVE game. Otherwise, we would not have so much commentary on it.
Come on, EA!
That being said, what's the future look like for EA SPORTS? No more NCAA FB, no Tiger Woods golf, a very damaged basketball sim they seemingly cannot get right. True, they have MADDEN, FIFA, and NHL. Maybe they can make it off those three. I don't know. But that division is in a mess.

# 50 shutdown10 @ 11/26/13 08:05 AM

I believe if they cannot give us their best effort for Live 15, then they should scrap this franchise for good. The severity of the situation is bigger now because they failed applying a vision or plan for this game after a 4 year hiatus. It does not matter if these developers had only one year to work on this game. They did not expect Live to get all this attention whether good or bad because they attempted to hide the game-play trying to give people a hint. If the suits will not give the team a solid budget for this game game going forward, then they are wasting their time.

# 51 GisherJohn24 @ 11/26/13 09:28 AM

So why again did they say on the previews that they were basically saying this is DAY1 purchase??? That was one of the reasons I preordered it becausae of OS input.

# 52 GisherJohn24 @ 11/26/13 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shutdown10


	I believe if they cannot give us their best effort for Live 15, then they should scrap this franchise for good. The severity of the situation is bigger now because they failed applying a vision or plan for this game after a 4 year hiatus. It does not matter if these developers had only one year to work on this game. They did not expect Live to get all this attention whether good or bad because they attempted to hide the game-play trying to give people a hint. If the suits will not give the team a solid budget for this game game going forward, then they are wasting their time.

Truth is though, I think I read they only had a full year of development time. They obvioulsy cannot do anything special. 2K's opening screen suggested they did 156,000 man hours (I think that's right) for next gen development alone. EA must have done 48 hours in comparison... A fair comparison.

# 53 Kaanyr Vhok @ 11/26/13 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24


	So why again did they say on the previews that they were basically saying this is DAY1 purchase??? That was one of the reasons I preordered it becausae of OS input.

Thats some serious selective reading. I figured the average Joe could tell what basketball game to get by the post counts in the forums, screenshots, trailers, videos, reviews, and testimony. Or Maybe Not

Id like to see this preview.

# 54 RaychelSnr @ 11/26/13 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaanyr Vhok


	Thats some serious selective reading. I figured the average Joe could tell what basketball game to get by the post counts in the forums, screenshots, trailers, videos, reviews, and testimony. Or Maybe Not Id like to see this preview.

I'd like to see it too

# 55 GisherJohn24 @ 11/26/13 10:38 AM

Well in summary the OS preview said its a day1 purchase 2 weeks ago. Since we never saw gameplay tho I should have been worried I guess. Then 2 weeks later we get a review of 3.5. Understand my frustration

# 56 Boilerbuzz @ 11/26/13 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24


	Well in summary the OS preview said its a day1 purchase 2 weeks ago. Since we never saw gameplay tho I should have been worried I guess. Then 2 weeks later we get a review of 3.5. Understand my frustration

Again, you chose to believe the wrong people and those people were not part of the OS staff. Where is this preview you speak of?

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

# 57 King_B_Mack @ 11/26/13 11:20 AM

It's amazing how often OS goes from being in EA's pocket to completely biased against them in favor of 2K depending on the accuser's argument at that given moment.

# 58 charter04 @ 11/26/13 12:20 PM

I totally agree with this review. I've played EA basketball since Bulls v Lakers. Live 95 was one of my favorite bball game. I get Madden ever year and NCAA football every year. My point is I want Live to be good. It's just not. I played the demo and I'm not waisting $60 on a last gen game. I have Live 10 and it's much better than this garbage. Me and a friend started playing this because he wanted to check out my Xbox1. I was embarrassed because of how terrible it looked and played. It made my new xbox look terrible. Lol. I want to say this is the Madden 06 of next gen but, Live 14 is worse.

-gameplay is bad
-graphics and player movement is bad
-physics bad
-ball dribbling/physics bad
-arcade gameplay
-frame rate issues

The list goes on and on.

It's sad to see how bad Live has become.
If you want to defended it fine. Enjoy your terrible game.

# 59 GisherJohn24 @ 11/26/13 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	Again, you chose to believe the wrong people and those people were not part of the OS staff. Where is this preview you speak of? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Um, it was headlines on everywhere that OS supported the game and day1 purchase. They did a podcast about it.

# 60 King_B_Mack @ 11/26/13 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GisherJohn24


	Um, it was headlines on everywhere that OS supported the game and day1 purchase. They did a podcast about it.

Bro, you're definitely making things up if you're saying OS called Live a day one purchase. Pretty sure no staff member of OS even got to play the game outside of anybody that may have tried out the dribbling at E3.

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