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Many More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, Heat and More

08:16 AM - September 17, 2012 by Kashanova

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Indiana Pacers

Danny Granger - 84
Roy Hibbert - 79
Paul George - 78
Gerald Green - 75
David West - 75
D.J. Augustin - 74

New York Knicks

Carmelo Anthony - 92
Amare Stoudemire - 84
Jason Kidd - 80
Iman Shumpert - 80
Tyson Chandler - 77
J.R Smith - 75

L.A. Lakers

Dwight Howard - 95
Kobe Bryant - 93
Pau Gasol - 87
Steve Nash - 87
Antawn Jamison - 77
Matt Barnes - 73

Utah Jazz

Al Jefferson - 84
Paul Millsap - 83
Maurice Williams - 78
Derrick Favors - 74
Raja Bell - 71
Alec Burks - 71

Chicago Bulls

Derrick Rose - 92
Joakim Noah - 83
Luol Deng - 83
Carlos Boozer - 78
Nate Robinson - 77
Taj Gibson - 77

San Antonio Spurs

Manu Ginobili - 87
Tim Duncan - 87
Tony Parker - 86
Stephen Jackson - 78
Kawhi Leonard - 76
DeJuan Blair - 72

Boston Celtics

Rajon Rondo - 90
Kevin Garnett - 84
Paul Pierce - 82
Avery Bradley - 79
Jeff Green - 78
Jason Terry - 77

Miami Heat

LeBron James - 98
Dwyane Wade - 93
Chris Bosh - 82
Ray Allen - 79
Shane Battier - 75
Mario Chalmers - 75

Dallas Mavericks

Dirk Nowitzki - 85
Vince Carter - 79
Shawn Marion - 79
Elton Brand - 77
OJ Mayo - 77
Darren Collison - 77

Los Angeles Clippers

Chris Paul - 94
Blake Griffin - 86
Chauncey Billups - 82
Caron Butler - 81
Jamal Crawford - 78
Grant Hill - 77

Houston Rockets

Kevin Martin - 81
Jeremy Lin - 77
Chandler Parsons - 74
Patrick Patterson - 73
Toney Douglas - 72
Jeremy Lamb - 71

Brooklyn Nets

Deron Williams - 90
Joe Johnson - 85
Gerald Wallace - 81
Brook Lopez - 80
Kris Humphries - 74
Marshon Brooks - 73

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# 221 Jakeness23 @ 09/19/12 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ojandpizza


	I'm not going to argue over Amar'e and Bosh simply because I really like both I them, I always have but I will say the guy who is arguing for Amar'e keeps throwing out a lot of crap and is being extremely biased.. First of all you said no way he should average under 8 rebounds per game on a team with no dominant center... Is 7.9 really that far away from 8? lol not to mention the year before he was averaging 8.3 with the Heat pretty sure that's more than 8.. Also if YOU ACTUALLY WATCHED games you could obviously see that his rebound numbers are lower than his past numbers because Miami doesn't play him inside.. He is a 3rd scoring option now with 2 of the top 5 players in the league as the 1st and 2nd option.. He thrives off kick outs and cuts, you obviously aren't going to get tons of rebounds when you're clearing out the lane for LeBron..that's why his offensive rebounds are so low.. Also his defensive and total rebounds are higher than Amar'es... Also, regardless of who they play with now they both had their chances to be the ONLY BIG MAN on their team when Bosh was in Toronto and Amar'e was in Phoenix and Bosh consistently out rebounded him.. So if you seriously think Amar'e is a better rebounder you better some unseen amazing break through evidence to prove so.. Offensively neither of them are that great off the block, Bosh has a better midrange game, and Amar'e is better at catching and putting the ball of the floor to attack the rim. I'd say they pretty much cancel each other out there.. Also neither of them are great defensively, neither of them ever have been..Again I give them a cancel there As far as who I would take, probably Bosh. That's just considering Amar'es injury record and the fact that Bosh can expand his offensive game a little more than Amar'e... Also Bosh is a better passer which is huge in my book.. And Amar'e thrived early in his career due to pure athleticism, I'm not sure how many more years he has that in him with all the injuries.. Again I really like both guys, I think they're both slightly underrated. I think Bosh does deserve a slightly higher overall due to him being a better shooter and slightly better rebounder.. Both those areas always seem to have a huge impact on bigmen's overall ratings... But please all of you STOP with the Bosh and Amar'e playoff numbers they were both injured and obviously weren't playing anywhere near 100%.. Also- to the guy arguing for Amar'e you lost all credibility when you said Amar'e had Raymond Felton playing like an all star, please! SMH lol

I don't remember saying Amar'e had Felton playing like an All-Star, but if you go back and watch that season before the Melo trade, Felton WAS having the best year of his career. Maybe Bosh is the better rebounder, I didn't really take the time to go research the stats, I was just guestimating on most of that.
To me it all comes down to defense, and Amare is the superior defender IMO.

# 222 Jakeness23 @ 09/19/12 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthBeach


	Miami's offense doesn't run through just Wade, Bron, and Bosh, though. Also, Bosh is the 3rd option on the Heat. Look at any other team with 3 All Stars and tell me what their 3rd option averages.

You're saying that the Heat went and signed 3 All-Stars and they don't run the offense through them? I'm pretty sure I saw the ball in one of those three guys' hands EVERY time down court. LeBron is essentially the point guard because everything goes through him.
And maybe Bosh doesn't get as many offensive boards because he has to clear the lane for LeBron, but he COULD get more defensive boards, I mean LeBron's rebounding numbers went up, why couldn't Bosh rebound as effectively as he did in Toronto?

Here's a 3rd option All-Star who had amazing stats:

Andrew Bynum (former 3rd option of the LA Lakers)

18.7 PPG
11.8 RPG (almost 12 rebounds with another 7 footer beside of him)
2.0 BPG

And I don't know who was considered the 3rd option for the Lakers back when they had Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, and Elgin Baylor, but I'm fairly certain they all had above average stats as well...

So it IS possible to have great averages even as a 3rd option.

# 223 ojandpizza @ 09/19/12 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakeness23


	You're saying that the Heat went and signed 3 All-Stars and they don't run the offense through them? I'm pretty sure I saw the ball in one of those three guys' hands EVERY time down court. LeBron is essentially the point guard because everything goes through him. And maybe Bosh doesn't get as many offensive boards because he has to clear the lane for LeBron, but he COULD get more defensive boards, I mean LeBron's rebounding numbers went up, why couldn't Bosh rebound as effectively as he did in Toronto? Here's a 3rd option All-Star who had amazing stats: Andrew Bynum (former 3rd option of the LA Lakers) 18.7 PPG 11.8 RPG (almost 12 rebounds with another 7 footer beside of him) 2.0 BPG And I don't know who was considered the 3rd option for the Lakers back when they had Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, and Elgin Baylor, but I'm fairly certain they all had above average stats as well... So it IS possible to have great averages even as a 3rd option.

Bosh does have good defensive rebound numbers, he doesn't even average 2 offensive rebounds per game, pretty much all of his rebounds are defensive and his defensive rebounds are higher than Amar'e.. Actually they're pretty much identical to Tyson Chandlers defensive rebound numbers..

# 224 DBMcGee3 @ 09/19/12 11:35 AM

Nate Robinson is the same rating as Jason Terry and OJ Mayo? If that were really the case my Bulls would be lovin it!

# 225 Vni @ 09/19/12 11:43 AM

Feels like Robinson is 12 points higher than he should be.

# 226 ronyell @ 09/19/12 12:27 PM

knowing in advance that we will be severely overhauling these ratings anyways & with higher profile players to debate... my highest level of disgust comes from Toney Dougkas being rated a 72... smh... must have him listed at SG again.

they need to revamp what attributes are weighted the most in regard to OVR if they are going to continue to have rotations determined by OVR

# 227 ronyell @ 09/19/12 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ojandpizza


	Bosh does have good defensive rebound numbers, he doesn't even average 2 offensive rebounds per game, pretty much all of his rebounds are defensive and his defensive rebounds are higher than Amar'e.. Actually they're pretty much identical to Tyson Chandlers defensive rebound numbers..

must keep in mind that in real life as well as the sim/stat engine in 2k... stats depend on the level of their teammates. Bosh grabs lots of boards because he & Lebron are the ONLY players on their team that CAN grab boards effectively AND the get enough minutes to do so. Tyson on the other hand has been a focal rebounder no matter what team he has been on. Put Bosh on a team wih let's say Al Jefferson... he wouldn't grab as many rebounds.

ratings have to be tested in the sim engine AS WELL as based off of statistics... example.. ast year we had to lower some players rebounding ratings on the T'Wolves to get K-Love to get the proper RPG because 2k had his teammates rebounding ratings a lil too good for where they actually are & they tok away Love's rebounds... same goes for assists & awareness... they have to be balanced in game.

# 228 KB2009Champ @ 09/19/12 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ronyell


	must keep in mind that in real life as well as the sim/stat engine in 2k... stats depend on the level of their teammates. Bosh grabs lots of boards because he & Lebron are the ONLY players on their team that CAN grab boards effectively AND the get enough minutes to do so. Tyson on the other hand has been a focal rebounder no matter what team he has been on. Put Bosh on a team wih let's say Al Jefferson... he wouldn't grab as many rebounds

Which strong rebounders did Chandler play with in Dallas? Dirk? Nope.

Wade is also an exceptional rebounder for a guard. So its not just Lebron and Bosh on the boards for Miami.

# 229 ojandpizza @ 09/19/12 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ronyell


	must keep in mind that in real life as well as the sim/stat engine in 2k... stats depend on the level of their teammates. Bosh grabs lots of boards because he & Lebron are the ONLY players on their team that CAN grab boards effectively AND the get enough minutes to do so. Tyson on the other hand has been a focal rebounder no matter what team he has been on. Put Bosh on a team wih let's say Al Jefferson... he wouldn't grab as many rebounds

The whole point of that post was because the guy was arguing Bosh vs. Amar'e.. I wasn't trying to compare him to Chandler, it was just that one instance.. You should read the other posts to get an idea of what was being said...

And you're actually wrong, Haslem and Anthony and even Turiaf are all very capable at getting rebounds. ... While they aren't big time starters like Chandler they all combine for lots of minutes to fill the "void" of that "other big man" that the Heat don't have.. That takes rebounds away from Bosh. Also with the very few minutes per game the other guys get they also take away boards.. Howard and Pittman at almost 9 per 36 minutes and Gladness at an astonishing 14 boards for 36 minutes..while they all don't play huge minutes individually there is always one of them on the court and they all combine to take away a significant number of boards..

# 230 Belly_of_a_Whale @ 09/19/12 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakeness23


	You're saying that the Heat went and signed 3 All-Stars and they don't run the offense through them? I'm pretty sure I saw the ball in one of those three guys' hands EVERY time down court. LeBron is essentially the point guard because everything goes through him. And maybe Bosh doesn't get as many offensive boards because he has to clear the lane for LeBron, but he COULD get more defensive boards, I mean LeBron's rebounding numbers went up, why couldn't Bosh rebound as effectively as he did in Toronto? Here's a 3rd option All-Star who had amazing stats: Andrew Bynum (former 3rd option of the LA Lakers) 18.7 PPG 11.8 RPG (almost 12 rebounds with another 7 footer beside of him) 2.0 BPG And I don't know who was considered the 3rd option for the Lakers back when they had Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, and Elgin Baylor, but I'm fairly certain they all had above average stats as well... So it IS possible to have great averages even as a 3rd option.

Except that Bynum was the 2nd option. Pau was the third.

Even so, watch Bynum's numbers skyrocket this season as the number 1 option, which is really the point: Bosh's numbers suffer playing with 2 superstars on a championship team MORE than Amare's numbers suffer playing with 1 (almost)superstar on a team that barely makes the playoffs.

And yet, BOSH'S NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD WERE BETTER THAN AMARE'S LAST SEASON.

End of debate.

# 231 ojandpizza @ 09/19/12 01:52 PM

Like I said before, I really like both of these guys.. It just to me really seems like you are being very harsh on Bosh. Yeah he joined the Heat, I think you guys are trying to hurt him for that because everybody loves to hate the Heat..

# 232 ronyell @ 09/19/12 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ojandpizza


	The whole point of that post was because the guy was arguing Bosh vs. Amar'e.. I wasn't trying to compare him to Chandler, it was just that one instance.. You should read the other posts to get an idea of what was being said... And you're actually wrong, Haslem and Anthony and even Turiaf are all very capable at getting rebounds. ... While they aren't big time starters like Chandler they all combine for lots of minutes to fill the "void" of that "other big man" that the Heat don't have.. That takes rebounds away from Bosh. Also with the very few minutes per game the other guys get they also take away boards.. Howard and Pittman at almost 9 per 36 minutes and Gladness at an astonishing 14 boards for 36 minutes..while they all don't play huge minutes individually there is always one of them on the court and they all combine to take away a significant number of boards..

FYI i do read all previous posts on a subject before i post. all of ypur points though are true & feed to my point of how many MPG a player is getting in association/season. which makes the point that individual ratings HAVE to balance between whatever their teammates are rated at to get the desired effect.

if you use statistical formula ONLY based off of 2k's base ratings... stats in game will always be skewed. thank you.

# 233 lakersphan @ 09/19/12 02:18 PM

You can't base who's better by one season. Chris Bosh played more center than Amare last year. Look at they're career stats then tell me who's better. Amares the better scorer and defender. In Amare's best day players were afraid to even step inside the paint hen he was there.

# 234 ojandpizza @ 09/19/12 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ronyell


	FYI i do read all previous posts on a subject before i post. all of ypur points though are true & feed to my point of how many MPG a player is getting in association/season. which makes the point that individual ratings HAVE to balance between whatever their teammates are rated at to get the desired effect. if you use statistical formula ONLY based off of 2k's base ratings... stats in game will always be skewed. thank you.

But what does any of that have to do with Chris Bosh being a better rebounder than Amar'e?

# 235 ojandpizza @ 09/19/12 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lakersphan


	You can't base who's better by one season. Chris Bosh played more center than Amare last year. Look at they're career stats then tell me who's better. Amares the better scorer and defender. In Amare's best day players were afraid to even step inside the paint hen he was there.

First of all I really really really don't remember anybody being "afraid" to step into Amar'es paint. He was a completely undersized center and has never been a great defender.. I think watching some blocks on ESPNs highlights might have you thinking this way..

Second of all even if he WAS a better scorer, which I really think they were about even, you give Chris Bosh Steve Nash and he could have scored that extra 2-3 points per game that Amar'e was averaging over him.. Especially considering how good Bosh would have been on the pick and pop.. I mean Nash even made Channing Frye and Boris Diaw looks good playing that way, imagine how Bosh would have flourished..

But even if Amar'e was a slightly better scorer then he has steadily declined in his level of play.. His 2K rating should reflect that somewhat. His shot attempts have gone up, points gone down, FG% gone down, and he only managed to play in 47 games this past season.. As for Bosh his shot attempts have went down, his FG% has actually been about the same, in fact the year before this past year was one of the highest of his career.. His rebounds and points have had a slight drop but that's arguably due to his touches and shot attempts dropping..

# 236 ronyell @ 09/19/12 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ojandpizza


	But what does any of that have to do with Chris Bosh being a better rebounder than Amar'e?

because this thread is supposed to be about "ratings" & not soley a player A vs. player B debate. applying the "ratings"/ "video game" aspect to you alls conversation & how they play out IN-GAME, may put the arguments back in perspective. just my two cents. perhaps i shall go back into hiding... lol.

# 237 ojandpizza @ 09/19/12 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ronyell


	because this thread is supposed to be about "ratings" & not soley a player A vs. player B debate. applying the "ratings"/ "video game" aspect to you alls conversation & how they play out IN-GAME, may put the arguments back in perspective. just my two cents. perhaps i shall go back into hiding... lol.

Haha no I understand what you're saying. This has all gotten way off topic.. To me I think both of those guys could be rated a little higher, I just felt as if Bosh was getting wrongfully(is that a word?) hated on just because of who he plays with and for..

# 238 stillfeelme @ 09/19/12 03:21 PM

Bosh vs. Amare is a fair debate. I can't go off the 2K overalls because they have something going on that artificially inflates certain players to give whatever ranking order they decide. Hopefully it doesn't mess up association.

Rebounding: Stat and Bosh are even
Jump shots: Bosh, Amare struggled last year hard to give him a "fair" rating with his shot off most of last year
Finishing/dunking: Slight edge to Amare
Post game: push both rely on faceup game Amare prefers to use a quick first step and Bosh uses it to, but their post moves are not that deep. I will change my mind if his time with the Dream worked.
Defense: Slight edge to Bosh but neither are great
Speed: Amare
Agility: Amare

# 239 ojandpizza @ 09/19/12 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stillfeelme


	Bosh vs. Amare is a fair debate. I can't go off the 2K overalls because they have something going on that artificially inflates certain players to give whatever ranking order they decide. Hopefully it doesn't mess up association. Rebounding: Stat and Bosh are even Jump shots: Bosh, Amare struggled last year hard to give him a "fair" rating with his shot off most of last year Finishing/dunking: Slight edge to Amare Post game: push both rely on faceup game Amare prefers to use a quick first step and Bosh uses it to, but their post moves are not that deep. I will change my mind if his time with the Dream worked. Defense: Slight edge to Bosh but neither are great Speed: Amare Agility: Amare

I think we were pretty much in agreement, I had Bosh as a slightly better rebounder, but you pretty much said everything I was trying to say when comparing them as well.. Neither have a great post game and neither play great defense..

# 240 lakersphan @ 09/19/12 03:30 PM

To the guy who said Amares play has declined throughout the years must hav not seen Amare before MELO came. If Chris Bosh played with MELO his numbers would be terrible. No easy wide open jumpshots. If you watch Knicks games you can see how umcomfortable Amare has been since MELO arrived.

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