Many More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, Heat and More

[ojandpizza]

Like I said before, I really like both of these guys.. It just to me really seems like you are being very harsh on Bosh. Yeah he joined the Heat, I think you guys are trying to hurt him for that because everybody loves to hate the Heat..

[ronyell]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

The whole point of that post was because the guy was arguing Bosh vs. Amar'e.. I wasn't trying to compare him to Chandler, it was just that one instance.. You should read the other posts to get an idea of what was being said... And you're actually wrong, Haslem and Anthony and even Turiaf are all very capable at getting rebounds. ... While they aren't big time starters like Chandler they all combine for lots of minutes to fill the "void" of that "other big man" that the Heat don't have.. That takes rebounds away from Bosh. Also with the very few minutes per game the other guys get they also take away boards.. Howard and Pittman at almost 9 per 36 minutes and Gladness at an astonishing 14 boards for 36 minutes..while they all don't play huge minutes individually there is always one of them on the court and they all combine to take away a significant number of boards..

FYI i do read all previous posts on a subject before i post. all of ypur points though are true & feed to my point of how many MPG a player is getting in association/season. which makes the point that individual ratings HAVE to balance between whatever their teammates are rated at to get the desired effect.

if you use statistical formula ONLY based off of 2k's base ratings... stats in game will always be skewed. thank you.

[lakersphan]

You can't base who's better by one season. Chris Bosh played more center than Amare last year. Look at they're career stats then tell me who's better. Amares the better scorer and defender. In Amare's best day players were afraid to even step inside the paint hen he was there.

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by ronyell

FYI i do read all previous posts on a subject before i post. all of ypur points though are true & feed to my point of how many MPG a player is getting in association/season. which makes the point that individual ratings HAVE to balance between whatever their teammates are rated at to get the desired effect. if you use statistical formula ONLY based off of 2k's base ratings... stats in game will always be skewed. thank you.

But what does any of that have to do with Chris Bosh being a better rebounder than Amar'e?

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by lakersphan

You can't base who's better by one season. Chris Bosh played more center than Amare last year. Look at they're career stats then tell me who's better. Amares the better scorer and defender. In Amare's best day players were afraid to even step inside the paint hen he was there.

First of all I really really really don't remember anybody being "afraid" to step into Amar'es paint. He was a completely undersized center and has never been a great defender.. I think watching some blocks on ESPNs highlights might have you thinking this way..

Second of all even if he WAS a better scorer, which I really think they were about even, you give Chris Bosh Steve Nash and he could have scored that extra 2-3 points per game that Amar'e was averaging over him.. Especially considering how good Bosh would have been on the pick and pop.. I mean Nash even made Channing Frye and Boris Diaw looks good playing that way, imagine how Bosh would have flourished..

But even if Amar'e was a slightly better scorer then he has steadily declined in his level of play.. His 2K rating should reflect that somewhat. His shot attempts have gone up, points gone down, FG% gone down, and he only managed to play in 47 games this past season.. As for Bosh his shot attempts have went down, his FG% has actually been about the same, in fact the year before this past year was one of the highest of his career.. His rebounds and points have had a slight drop but that's arguably due to his touches and shot attempts dropping..

[ronyell]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

But what does any of that have to do with Chris Bosh being a better rebounder than Amar'e?

because this thread is supposed to be about "ratings" & not soley a player A vs. player B debate. applying the "ratings"/ "video game" aspect to you alls conversation & how they play out IN-GAME, may put the arguments back in perspective. just my two cents. perhaps i shall go back into hiding... lol.

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by ronyell

because this thread is supposed to be about "ratings" & not soley a player A vs. player B debate. applying the "ratings"/ "video game" aspect to you alls conversation & how they play out IN-GAME, may put the arguments back in perspective. just my two cents. perhaps i shall go back into hiding... lol.

Haha no I understand what you're saying. This has all gotten way off topic.. To me I think both of those guys could be rated a little higher, I just felt as if Bosh was getting wrongfully(is that a word?) hated on just because of who he plays with and for..

[stillfeelme]

Bosh vs. Amare is a fair debate. I can't go off the 2K overalls because they have something going on that artificially inflates certain players to give whatever ranking order they decide. Hopefully it doesn't mess up association.

Rebounding: Stat and Bosh are even
Jump shots: Bosh, Amare struggled last year hard to give him a "fair" rating with his shot off most of last year
Finishing/dunking: Slight edge to Amare
Post game: push both rely on faceup game Amare prefers to use a quick first step and Bosh uses it to, but their post moves are not that deep. I will change my mind if his time with the Dream worked.
Defense: Slight edge to Bosh but neither are great
Speed: Amare
Agility: Amare