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NBA 2K13 Top 20 Players and Possible Player Ratings

04:36 PM - September 12, 2012 by Steve_OS

Check out the top 20 players in NBA 2K13.

Based off of NBA 2K13 player ratings that have already been released, ebc_baller has put together the following list of ratings.

Lebron (94+) Obviously
Howard (94+)
Durant 94
Paul 94
Bryant 93
Wade (92-93)
Westbrook (92-93)
Rose 92
Melo 92
D Williams (90-92)
Rondo 90
Love 89
J Smith 87
Duncan (87)
Nash 87
Manu (87)
Bynum 87
Iggy 87
Gay (87)
P Gasol 87

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# 81 Itsfuntobethespurs @ 09/12/12 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hnic028


	How the hell are manu and duncan rated higher than parker.Parker carried the spurs last year.Finished 5th in mvp voting and he is not here.Smh at 2k.2k is a better game but live i think rated the players more realistically

mmm. Because both are better?

Ginobili is a better defender, a better shooter, a better rebounder, etc. The only things Parker has over Manu are durability and speed
Duncan is one of the best defensive rebounders in the league, a threat in the post and still all-defense material.

By 2k standards, both are better overall players (and they are)

# 82 Suntan Superman @ 09/12/12 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Biagas


	Russell is just now coming into his shot..this 2012 season and olympics. His elbow pullup (15ft-out-- )is now better than rose. He finishes at the rim now, better than rose. And they shoot the 3 pointer around the same which isnt very good anyway.

Derrick Rose 3-9 | 10-15 | 20-23
47.0 | 38.0 | 43.0
57.5 | 50.0 | 44.0
39.7 | 42.0 | 38.0
43.7 | 36.9 | 37.0

Rusell Westbrook 3-9 | 10-15 | 20-23
36.0 | 32.0 | 38.0
38.8 | 33.9 | 37.0
26.6 | 35.8 | 36.0
37.6 | 37.7 | 43.0

And once again, the only year in which Russell does better than Rose is the one in which Rose is injured. Westbrook is a better finisher at the rim though.

Let's also pretend that defenses don't solely focus on Rose when he does play because he has Kevin Durant and James Harden on offense as well.

But please, continue...

# 83 Itsfuntobethespurs @ 09/12/12 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Suntan Superman


	Derrick Rose 3-9 \| 10-15 \| 20-23 47.0 \| 38.0 \| 43.0 57.5 \| 50.0 \| 44.0 39.7 \| 42.0 \| 38.0 43.7 \| 36.9 \| 37.0 Rusell Westbrook 3-9 \| 10-15 \| 20-23 36.0 \| 32.0 \| 38.0 38.8 \| 33.9 \| 37.0 26.6 \| 35.8 \| 36.0 37.6 \| 37.7 \| 43.0 And once again, the only year in which Russell does better than Rose is the one in which Rose is injured. Westbrook is a better finisher at the rim though. Let's also pretend that defenses don't solely focus on Rose when he does play because he has Kevin Durant and James Harden on offense as well. But please, continue...

Take into account shot selection. Westbrook takes so many dumb shots that his % goes down. If open I'd rather have westbrook shooting than Rose. I wish there were stats like that available

# 84 Biagas @ 09/12/12 07:50 PM

lol

Alright

Russell westbrook shoots the elbow jumper better than rose, and thats typically the only midrange shot he takes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orks2...tailpage#t=62s

# 85 ebc_baller @ 09/12/12 07:57 PM

For all of those one are talking about Lebron's rating of 94+ is because that was the next highest rated player that was confirmed (Durant & Paul). I'm sure he will be around a 96-99.

All of the other ratings were based on what order they were on the list in the video.

No one is going to agree with everyone thats why 2k lets u edit your own ratings.

Too me the list is pretty good and I cant wait for 2k to release more info!

# 86 Suntan Superman @ 09/12/12 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Itsfuntobethespurs


	Take into account shot selection. Westbrook takes so many dumb shots that his % goes down. If open I'd rather have westbrook shooting than Rose. I wish there were stats like that available

And? You can't just take away stupid shots, Rose takes stupid shots as well, hell half of their flair is built off of miraculously hitting those stupid shots every now and then. And you can't really have a stat like that, because then what is a stupid shot? And these are both elite level NBA caliber players, "if they're open" they should both hit the shot no matter what. I really despise conjecture stats, that's why I only made a passing mention of Russ's teammates, whom as a whole are much, much better than Rose's, and Russ isn't required to carry the offensive load that Rose is.

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Originally Posted by Biagas


	lol Alright Russell westbrook shoots the elbow jumper better than rose, and thats typically the only midrange shot he takes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orks2...tailpage#t=62s

If he shoots it better, and shoots it more, why don't his %'s reflect that against Rose? Can't really base this off of one game, or just one year when we have four years of data available for each player.

# 87 UnbelievablyRAW @ 09/12/12 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dub541


	ROFL at all the people mad that lebron is not 96+. He can't shoot the ball. His fg% is high because all he does is drive if they pay attention to basketball they would know he doesn't even like to shoot mid range jumpers cause he knows its not his strength but 2k keeps over-rating his shooting. If 2k gives lebron a better mid-range jumper than kobe bryant then 2k really needs new stat guy's.

Log off the internet please wow lmaooooo

Its true that his highest FG percentage is in the paint (like every other player lol), but fun fact, if you actually take 2 seconds to look at statistics he only attempted 48% (803) of his 1674 FGs at the rim to 9 ft (considering 9ft a small distance is kinda generous) and shot 52% of his FGs from 10 feet+

Also keep in mind that he shot an average of 39% from 10ft to 3pt range meanwhile Kobe shot 38% from 10+ ft out. Still lets just assume things like Lebron isn't a good shooter (his midrange FG% was 48% btw compared to Kobe's 42.4%) and that players like Kobe are better shooters than Lebron though

# 88 Itsfuntobethespurs @ 09/12/12 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Suntan Superman


	And? You can't just take away stupid shots, Rose takes stupid shots as well, hell half of their flair is built off of miraculously hitting those stupid shots every now and then. And you can't really have a stat like that, because then what is a stupid shot? And these are both elite level NBA caliber players, "if they're open" they should both hit the shot no matter what. I really despise conjecture stats, that's why I only made a passing mention of Russ's teammates, whom as a whole are much, much better than Rose's, and Russ isn't required to carry the offensive load that Rose is.

Check the NBA advanced stats section

Westbrook is a 41% midrange shooter and 33% 3 point shooter
Rose in his MVP season was a 40% midrange shooter and a 33% 3 point shooter. And the % stayed basically the same last season

Effective shooting percentage takes into account layups and free throws, so it's not a good measure of how good of shooter you are

# 89 Biagas @ 09/12/12 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Suntan Superman


	And? You can't just take away stupid shots, Rose takes stupid shots as well, hell half of their flair is built off of miraculously hitting those stupid shots every now and then. And you can't really have a stat like that, because then what is a stupid shot? And these are both elite level NBA caliber players, "if they're open" they should both hit the shot no matter what. I really despise conjecture stats, that's why I only made a passing mention of Russ's teammates, whom as a whole are much, much better than Rose's, and Russ isn't required to carry the offensive load that Rose is. If he shoots it better, and shoots it more, why don't his %'s reflect that against Rose? Can't really base this off of one game, or just one year when we have four years of data available for each player.

Im basing it off one year. I said russell is coming into his shot just now, this past season

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Originally Posted by UnbelievablyRAW


	Log off the internet please wow lmaooooo Its true that his highest FG percentage is in the paint (like every other player lol), but fun fact, if you actually take 2 seconds to look at statistics he only attempted 48% (803) of his 1674 FGs at the rim to 9 ft (considering 9ft a small distance is kinda generous) and shot 52% of his FGs from 10 feet+ Also keep in mind that he shot an average of 39% from 10ft to 3pt range meanwhile Kobe shot 38% from 10+ ft out. Still lets just assume things like Lebron isn't a good shooter (his midrange FG% was 48% btw compared to Kobe's 42.4%) and that players like Kobe are better shooters than Lebron though

Lebron jumper is average..gotta think about how the defense plays the shooter.

Lebron gets a cushion from his defender because they would rather him shoot it than drive, because they know his shooting isnt his strong point

Kobe does not get a cushion from his defender, they know shooting is his strength now over driving..but he did chuck it a lot

so its obvious who's % is gonna be higher..the guy who gets a 5 feet cushion to shoot, or the guy who doesn't get any airspace

# 90 Gramps91 @ 09/12/12 08:17 PM

I agree with these for the most part. Seems like players ratings have all gone down very slightly.

# 91 LS33 @ 09/12/12 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by drose_fan


	Lol at anyone who thinks Westbrook is better than Rose or even shoots better...rose is 5 point rating wise better than him, a man has one injured season and the world forgets he dominated the game and won MVP the yr before....when he come back yall will forget about Russ

Finally someone That gets me lol

# 92 Suntan Superman @ 09/12/12 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Itsfuntobethespurs


	Check the NBA advanced stats section Westbrook is a 41% midrange shooter and 33% 3 point shooter Rose in his MVP season was a 40% midrange shooter and a 33% 3 point shooter. And the % stayed basically the same last season Effective shooting percentage takes into account layups and free throws, so it's not a good measure of how good of shooter you are

I just posted FG% stats based on court area from hoopdata.com. The original comparison was eFG and TS% which again, Rose was better every year he wasn't injured. And in the FG% stats I posted based on the area of the court Rose was better still except for the year he was injured.

There's a recurring theme here, and it's called oneseasonitis. When Westbrook does it this year, maybe next year and beyond he'll get credit for it. But you generally don't take into account outliers.

# 93 Itsfuntobethespurs @ 09/12/12 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Suntan Superman


	I just posted FG% stats based on court area from hoopdata.com. The original comparison was eFG and TS% which again, Rose was better every year he wasn't injured. And in the FG% stats I posted based on the area of the court Rose was better still except for the year he was injured. There's a recurring theme here, and it's called oneseasonitis. When Westbrook does it this year, maybe next year and beyond he'll get credit for it. But you generally don't take into account outliers.

You're right. We don't want Iggy with an 86 3pt rating because of one season after years of struggling. If not you end up like fifa or madden where ratings change every week and you don't even know when to start a franchise.

# 94 UnbelievablyRAW @ 09/12/12 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Biagas


	Lebron jumper is average..gotta think about how the defense plays the shooter. Lebron gets a cushion from his defender because they would rather him shoot it than drive, because they know his shooting isnt his strong point Kobe does not get a cushion from his defender, they know shooting is his strength now over driving..but he did chuck it a lot so its obvious who's % is gonna be higher..the guy who gets a 5 feet cushion to shoot, or the guy who doesn't get any airspace

Aah the plot thickens

I should have mentioned that he had taken 1076 jumpshots (out of his 1674 FGA last year) and that 47% of his FG scored in at the rim were assisted.

Meaning that on scouting reports it'd say in iso he is more likely to take a jumper than drive to the basket

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&year_id=2012

Putting all this together, he doesn't attempt inside shots often, and when he does, almost half of them are assisted to him. Meaning that he actually only forcefully drove half of the 595 (this time including hookshots, and tip ins) by himself. He scored the bulk of his points off jumpshots. Playing off him would be a bad idea

# 95 Dos_Santos @ 09/12/12 08:44 PM

Dirk not being in the Top 20? Lol.

# 96 d1234 @ 09/12/12 08:48 PM

Dwade is so ****ing underated tho smh, Then they put kobe 40 percent shooting *** above him smh

# 97 Nokstar @ 09/12/12 08:53 PM

Dwight rated the Same lebron? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Dwight shouldn't even be top 3 rating wise...I'm disgusted.

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# 98 MurkMurda @ 09/12/12 08:55 PM

Alot of these people dont belong in the top 20 or at least not at the spots they are at... You think Sig Skills effect your overall rating now thats only reason i can see some of these dudes this high

# 99 plzwork12 @ 09/12/12 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nokstar


	Dwight rated the Same lebron? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Dwight shouldn't even be top 3 rating wise...I'm disgusted. Sent from my Verizon Galaxy S3

Where do you see that Dwight is the same as Lebron?

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# 100 tril @ 09/12/12 09:43 PM

cant complain about the player ratings. I like the fact that the numbers seem to be lower this year for the elite players. Im sure that new feature ties into these ratings

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