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09:22 PM - August 18, 2012 by AzureEffect

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# 61 raidertiger @ 08/19/12 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Armor & Sword


	I don't get this....why does it have to be "it does not make sense". What if this TE becomes the next Antonio Gates or Rob Gronkowski What if this WR becomes the next Jerry Rice, Calvin Johnson. Jeez. The NFL has had a major shift to the passing game and having elite players at WR and TE is more important than ever in this now vertical pass happy league.

Really? Instead of defending EA blindly, how about realising something? Calvin Johnson went 0-16 without a QB. Jerry Rice needed Joe Montana to do anything. Same with Gronk and Gates. Receivers don't matter that much, and to see someone defending a TE going 2nd overall is nauseating.

# 62 MR Anderson310 @ 08/19/12 02:31 AM

madden is looking good so far ...i hope it stays that way but then again this is " EA " that we are talking about lets see how all the connected careers mode an all comes together ..cause to me something about is still not right to me

# 63 moneal2001 @ 08/19/12 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by raidertiger


	Really? Instead of defending EA blindly, how about realising something? Calvin Johnson went 0-16 without a QB. Jerry Rice needed Joe Montana to do anything. Same with Gronk and Gates. Receivers don't matter that much, and to see someone defending a TE going 2nd overall is nauseating.

the cowboys already have a QB. if a team has a qb they like and then have the opportunity to get the next Megatron or Tony Gonzales they will pull the trigger. especially now that they dont have to pay #1 picks 50 mil guaranteed.

# 64 DaBlackGoku @ 08/19/12 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by raidertiger


	Really? Instead of defending EA blindly, how about realising something? Calvin Johnson went 0-16 without a QB. Jerry Rice needed Joe Montana to do anything. Same with Gronk and Gates. Receivers don't matter that much, and to see someone defending a TE going 2nd overall is nauseating.

Uhhh dude, Calvin Johnson was not the only one on that team to go 0-16, and you might want to take a look at his stats. Jerry Rice was the greatest WR of all time, BAR NONE, with or without Montana/Young. Gronk is a matchup nightmare and would still be a beast without Brady throwing him the ball.

You need to realize, it's just a video game. This isn't real life, you want real life then wait until next April. The computer drafts on their NEEDS and apparently the Dolphins needed a tight end first and formost. The CPU isn't perfect, and they probably won't be for a long time. That's just how it is.

# 65 Hooe @ 08/19/12 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by raidertiger


	Really? Instead of defending EA blindly, how about realising something? Calvin Johnson went 0-16 without a QB. Jerry Rice needed Joe Montana to do anything. Same with Gronk and Gates. Receivers don't matter that much, and to see someone defending a TE going 2nd overall is nauseating.

The opposite sides of this argument is Jay Cutler and Sam Bradford. Two clearly talented quarterbacks inhibited up to this point by lack of quality receiving threats around each of them.

Only a few quarterbacks - such as Brady, Peyton, and Rodgers - can make any decent receiver great. Most of them need help on the periphery.

# 66 moneal2001 @ 08/19/12 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal


	I feel what you are saying and I feel what others are saying too because it would be nice if they could add in "trade down" logic next year. So if a CPU team does identify TE, C, K, P, LB, etc as their #1 need but has an early draft slot, they will look to trade that pick to teams with more high priority position needs. For example it would be sweet to see that CPU team trade down to another team that needs a QB or whatever and then take that TE with the later pick.

the thing is we dont know if they didn't try that. we dont see cpu trade requests. they might have gotten offers to trade down but they were just not good ones. I remember on Head coach 09 getting crappy cpu trade offers during the draft and just having to be stuck with a pick quite a few times. and when you get stuck you draft what you need or what you want.

now if we would have seen the user try and offer the cpu 2 1s and a 2 for the pick and they turned it down and still drafted the TE then we would have a real cause to complain.

# 67 DaBlackGoku @ 08/19/12 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Big FN Deal


	I feel what you are saying and I feel what others are saying too because it would be nice if they could add in "trade down" logic next year. So if a CPU team does identify TE, C, K, P, LB, etc as their #1 need but has an early draft slot, they will look to trade that pick to teams with more high priority position needs. For example it would be sweet to see that CPU team trade down to another team that needs a QB or whatever and then take that TE with the later pick.

I agree with you. They should add that in where CPUs who don't need the traditional #1 or #2 selections (QB, RB, OT, DE) they would trade down and accumulate picks. It'd actually be nice if they did something like the Rams and Redskins did BEFORE the draft.

But alas, Madden is not there yet. But I think they will be soon.

# 68 muse324 @ 08/19/12 03:04 AM

yak yak yak yak yak.....I wonder how long this will take before it becomes old and i mute out wingo

# 69 DaBlackGoku @ 08/19/12 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by muse324


	yak yak yak yak yak.....I wonder how long this will take before it becomes old and i mute out wingo

Yup, there's always gotta be one of you........

# 70 Chrisksaint @ 08/19/12 03:36 AM

To those opposed to a TE going #2 overall, if I were to tell you that you were getting a Jimmy Graham/Gronk type guy would you not take that guy hell even at #1?

To say an elite QB is all the matters is silly, if you can have a guy like Jimmy Graham where in doubt you just throw it 10ft high near him he can grab it that's pretty damn special or a Gronk who'll turn a short pass into a long gain by trucking half the defense,etc.

# 71 MR Anderson310 @ 08/19/12 03:40 AM

@cm hooe you are right .. i think those qbs can make the averagr wr look good .. look at all those wr payton manning had over the years he made them look great with out him they dont have the same production ... its the system an the qb ...hell the patriots do it every year with guys you would not even pick up in a video game an they make it work ...

# 72 MR Anderson310 @ 08/19/12 03:46 AM

yeah those kind of te only come along every few years..TE normally take longer to progress in the nfl so taking one that high is allways gonna be a risk ... thats why alot of teams look to upgrade that position through free agency ... an if the draft pick pans out goof for you if not he wasnt a high pick an not that much cash invested into him

# 73 Ferweezy @ 08/19/12 04:40 AM

The draft looks nice, but whats the point of the great feature when you can't edit the draft class and have a bunch of generated players. They make up for it with the unique commentary for each prospect, but the fake players kills the immersion for me a little.

# 74 bucknut88 @ 08/19/12 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferweezy


	The draft looks nice, but whats the point of the great feature when you can't edit the draft class and have a bunch of generated players. They make up for it with the unique commentary for each prospect, but the fake players kills the immersion for me a little.

I hear yeah...kind of.

If the imported draft classes in the past worked correctly I would agree with you 100%. However, they never worked right. Punters were being drafted top 5, equipment was all messed up, ratings kept varying from draft to draft. I just didn't like it, it got old to me. Plus, there were some draft classes where the best WR was projected to go in the 5th round....that NEVER happens.

This new draft experience will make for a much more complete process. I think I'm REALLY going to enjoy it.

# 75 rudyjuly2 @ 08/19/12 06:44 AM

Cool process. Will be much better than last year.

# 76 Wessoo @ 08/19/12 06:47 AM

Looks amazing.

Guys, you gotta remember that it is GM Jeff Ireland who is charge of Dolphins draft picks so I wouldn't be worried about CPU Draft Logic. I think that they have got Ireland's personality into Dolphins' front office.

Sorry for the bad grammar, not my native language

# 77 Ferweezy @ 08/19/12 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bucknut88


	I hear yeah...kind of. If the imported draft classes in the past worked correctly I would agree with you 100%. However, they never worked right. Punters were being drafted top 5, equipment was all messed up, ratings kept varying from draft to draft. I just didn't like it, it got old to me. Plus, there were some draft classes where the best WR was projected to go in the 5th round....that NEVER happens. This new draft experience will make for a much more complete process. I think I'm REALLY going to enjoy it.

I was aware of the old problems with importing. I'm implying a option to create your own draft classes similar to what NBA 2K12 has. I know after a few years the generated players become tolerable, but in my first couple of years in CC I would like to have real life big time college prospects in my game. Like Matt Barkley or Montee Ball. It adds to the immersion a lot more for me.

# 78 Nev @ 08/19/12 08:37 AM

Another vid there by MadScientist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et3j2...eature=g-all-u

I've seen a few of these draft vids there are quite a few questionable picks at the top of each of them.

In this one...
1st: Cowboys - CB
2nd: Bengals - TE
4th: Rams - QB

All 3 of them teams have spent recent high draft picks on the positions they took.

# 79 Armor and Sword @ 08/19/12 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bsantos_5


	My thoughts exactly. Dal taking a WR #1 just doesn't make sense. I also saw Buf draft another RB? They have way more holes to fill than that.

Yeah because Dez Bryant has proved to be such an elite WR to this point.

Ok.

# 80 Bootzilla @ 08/19/12 09:19 AM

Not really a fan of the draft logic. Teams drafting players at positions they don't need and drafting non-valued positions too high. High Value: QB, LT, Pass Rusher (DE, OLB), CB, WR.
Low Value: FB, Interior Linemen (G, C), TE. Now this doesn't mean there aren't studs at some of those positions it's just they aren't highly valued. That's why the Pouncey twins (centers) go in the teens but, they're studs and everyone knew they would be but, an Andre Smith will go higher even with question marks because he's a tackle.

Also, it puzzles me why some measurables that are readily available after the combine remain hidden in Madden. We know 40 times, bench reps, vert, broad, etc. It's kinda dumb that you have to spend time scouting something that you can just watch the NFL Network to find out. I feel they initially did this because speed was the overriding factor in everything as far as ratings were concerned.

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