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Okay guys...

Here is the Spring Training version of the Operation Sports Full Minors for 2012, for MLB 12 The Show.

This initial set looks really tight... and there is some FANTASTIC work done on these. Dare I say... the best set yet.

There are too many to thank for this... and I will come back and fill out this post with all those involved, as I know you guys want to get your hands on these and start your franchises.

Here is the link for the OSFM ST v.1They will be up in the Vault momentarily...
  • File name: O.S.F.M. SPRING
Thanks for all your patience... and most of all enjoy!!!

I just want to thank some people... and I have to say... this community is truly exceptional. Operation Sports is simply the best run website I visit. Bar none... and the members that frequent here are one of the main reasons. Good people attract other good people.

In no particular order... I really need to thank all of the people involved in the making of this set... as this is a true community effort and without all of these guys, it would make the process much harder and much, much longer.

Thanks to:

EDITORS and FACES:
JoeRyan33
TNKNGM
sink4ever
davis420
theaub
MLBBob
CWSPalehose19
bedwardsroy19
Karle
theSlab
PsychoBulk
Ivanhoe
mhag4
moose16
TheRunandShoot
Apostle
yankeedaniel99
adamj2281
Ratfink
jmeyers1975
Novanik
authentic
mlbonfox
thekid24
bdolski
tree3five
piratesboy
ilstu24
Rag3vsWorld
cmorris25
juicer420
drustrk3
Jetfire
JGainsey
ElectricWizard
LastRegret

FACES
Majoniak
Willard76
GreatNorthern47
bodhiball
MauerMorneu
GoBucs09
Throwback
NatsFan_1997
Hawnprime
seanjeezy
and
Aroid1313

I'd like to thank ksig24 for his insight and input into the potential base for the set...

... and last but CERTAINLY not least...
RidinDwnKingsley...

Without his TREMENDOUS work and the immense amount of time that he puts into these rosters... they would have taken 3 times as long to do.

I CANNOT say enough about this, as his dedication and sheer bulldog mentality to get it done, means so much to these.

Also to Steve... the owner of O.S. and the mods on here who make it easy to keep the threads in order and viable to use in conjunction with the set.

...and of course thanks to the entire O.S. community for all the input that you guys have been putting into these for YEARS!

THANK YOU!

Guys.....a lot of people have requested to give back in response to these rosters. They offer thanks and several have offered money.
I suggest charities if you really want to do something as a thanks to these.

My suggested charities....The N.Y.C. FireFighters Burn Center....Wounded Warriors....or .....http://www.extra-life.org/

Thank you!

M.K.
Knight165

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# 261 s.gamernut20 @ 04/04/12 01:44 AM
Thanks to Knight,and everyone involved in this project. I appreciate the dedication/time, and hard work it takes to get it done. Mariners & Reds here I come!!

Thank you very much.
 
# 262 juicer420 @ 04/04/12 01:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanjeezy
Sorry man, Mariners faces only, Hawnprime and Juicer did the Giants, they deserve all the credit, so I will thank them on your behalf!
And I'll pass this forward to Hawnprime...he made Blanco! Excellent job too!
 
# 263 Knight165 @ 04/04/12 01:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRunAndShoot
Really? I thought we were listening to ksig for the top guys. Which is why I had Paxton and Nick Franklin are B's for the M's. To avoid bias I defaulted to ksig and BA. (65+ grade=A, 55-60=B, etc.)

How many sim's did you guys run and for how many years? I haven't ran one yet with these rosters but just with my experiance in tuning the ratings for the M's it seems like there's alot of 2010/11 draft picks that are still a few years away from the majors that would be peaking 3 years into a franchise.

I'll run a sim and post results but thats just from glancing over the rosters. Since it seems like there's alot of high potential guys could I recreate a couple guys for the M's? (depending on how this sim works)


Overall, great work by everyone. It's kinda funny seeing how people do faces. Some guys round the facial features, others emphasis any little thing.
Once ksig dropped out.....I couldn't really have guys wondering. I know a few of you guys were shooting it back and forth....but there was no choice but to have guys make decisions. I think you'll see with the toned down progression....these play out nicely.

Quote:
Originally Posted by redsfan4life
Also why does Steffan Wilson have A potential? smh. He's been in the minors 5 years and has a .265/.333/.423 line. He was awful last year. I don't get it. Is there any way we can fix this?
He is a C in the set.

Quote:
Originally Posted by redsfan4life
Thats being nice. He's not a 3B either. His defense is AWFUL at third.
He means....on the set he's looking at...the OSFM SPRING...he's a C.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pezone
Hey guys,

Sorry i'm deviating from this whole Brewers topic.

But I have a question, I'm starting a Franchise with the Braves. How do i get Chipper Jones back on the lineup??
For some reason he's nowhere to be found on the bench or lineup...

ANy help to add again injured players would be appreciated.
Chipper's in there for sure.


Quote:
Originally Posted by OldHossRadbourn
The Cubs should have at (2) A guys. Jackson and Baez. I don't like McNutt at all. So a B is fine for him IMO.

Szczur should be a B. Vitters could go a B or C. I'd still give him a B seeing as he is so young but I won't fret too much over it.

DeVoss should be on the roster. IMO he's their best 2B prospect. I liek him more than most and would give him a B. But he should at least be ont he roster and at least be a C.
I still like Vitters. Not like I used to ....but I'm hoping!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason_19
I've heard from a few people that player's barely progress now. If that's the case, I have no issues with there being more A rated players or a ton of B rated players with higher than usual attributes (for OSMF rosters).

From what I heard, players with B potentials will basically be worthless for years to come unless they are rated a little higher than they usually are.

If there's a stat simulation thread, can someone post a link? If there's not, someone should create one.
B's won't be worthless.....the charts...if guys used them...will have the players working like a charm to their potentials.

Quote:
Originally Posted by seanjeezy
Straight up cold blooded Knight, 4/5ths of the M's faces were done by me and no mention

I kid, I could care less as long as people are enjoying the set
I'M SORRY......I'll get you in!
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRunAndShoot
Yea, I like the progression better last yr.

Anyways here's what I found.... after 2 yrs. (A pots only)

OAK
Cespedes looks like he's a 97/100
Choice and AJ Cole are a tad high.

BOS
Middlebrook(s) - @ 25 is one of the better 3bs. - His name is spelled wrong.
Bogaerts and Ranaudo could probably be tuned down some. Ranaudo is already a #3 starter ratings wise, that should be his upside during his peak yrs.


SD- Perfect. I think rags did them, props to him, OVR to age to POT is perfect.

COL- Arenado is a bit high, I'd say he's a yr ahead of where he should be.

PIT- Taillon is their 4th best starter. As good as he is, I can't see him going from low A to the bigs in 2 yrs. Him and Cole have virtually = OVRs.

MIL- Its was pointed out earlier but the Brewers are on track to have 6 cy young contenders.

CIN- Billy Hamilton is one of the better SS already (at age 23). Should probably be tuned down, he might be MLB ready but not elite to start 2014.

WAS- Rendon is still a yr or two away from being a starting caliber 3b.

TEX- Kills me to say it but Profar could probably use a bump. He's still a yr or 2 away.

OTHER
Lindor, Starling is MLB ready @ 21. Can see it with Lindor but not Starling.


This sim was for two yrs.

Kinght/Ridin- I could keep doing these, I'm sure you guys are still testing. It's up to you whether you want my feedback
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRunAndShoot
Yea, I see your point. After running a 2 yr sim it wasn't as bad as I thought. It was just a handful of guy seemed to be a year or two ahead of schedule. It's kinda stupid that the marginal value between A & B is so much.



I didnt know only top 100's were the A's. Thats fine, I was just pointing out that they were highly regarded picks last year. The brewers are rated highly, I was just trying to find common ground and find reason into the ratings. It takes a lot of hard work to make these rosters, so maybe the maker had his Brewer colored glasses on during the process, I still appreciate the job he did.
Would those be beer goggles?


Yea, where's my 1/5th of a shoutout


I'm sure you know but just so people don't get confused. v2 is gonna be the equipment, stance & motion edits. I guess the OD release is serving as v1 and this is .5?

BTW, I'd wake up the baby to show him/her how filthy Taijuan Walker is. lol might cause nightmares.

Stop watching jenkins, start watching Wong


See above, or else


He's on the Single A roster. Give him Carmona's motion and an all tan glove too.[/quote]


Haha....Walker is nasty.
Also...avoid looking at overalls as the gauge. Go into the editor and look at actual individual ratings...much better picture.

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 264 mooch49 @ 04/04/12 01:48 AM
What I suggest people do if they want to play with edits, specifically pitching is to dl the attachment in the thread titled pitch edits and first edit the team you are controlling then as you play your schedule edit the pitchers of your next opponent. It really only takes like 15 minutes or so. This way you dont have to do them all at once or for every team. Just yours and the one you will play. The edits really make a world of difference

Sent from my YP-G70 using Tapatalk
 
# 265 Mick311 @ 04/04/12 01:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight165
He shouldn't.
I changed him to a C.

M.K.
Knight165
Is there a quick way to change the potential on a guy?
 
# 266 AUTiger1 @ 04/04/12 01:51 AM
I can't believe I can't get the roster. I keep getting knocked off the system. I thought that since the rosters have been in the vault for almost 6 hours it would have died down enough for me to download it but I guess not.
 
# 267 cardinals57 @ 04/04/12 01:57 AM
Just wanted to get my appreciation and thanks in for what you guys do. For this to take one month is astounding. Also wanted to say whoever did the CAPs for the top 100 prospects is phenomenal. Lastly, the guy who did the cardinals roster(ilstu or something) did a freaking awesome job on them.
 
# 268 AUTiger1 @ 04/04/12 02:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AUTiger1
I can't believe I can't get the roster. I keep getting knocked off the system. I thought that since the rosters have been in the vault for almost 6 hours it would have died down enough for me to download it but I guess not.
Before I could get on the Playstation network now I can't even do that. What's the deal?
 
# 269 bedwardsroy19 @ 04/04/12 02:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AUTiger1
Before I could get on the Playstation network now I can't even do that. What's the deal?
Sometimes when it doesn't work for me right away turning the system on and off fixes everything and lets me on sportsconnect, hope that helps
 
# 270 TheRunAndShoot @ 04/04/12 02:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight165
Haha....Walker is nasty.
Also...avoid looking at overalls as the gauge. Go into the editor and look at actual individual ratings...much better picture.

M.K.
Knight165
Yea, just kinda wanted to paint a broad picture.

I ran another sim yr and yea they play out fairly well, except for the guys that are already a tad high. I just kinda wish B could have some more boom or bust to it, or progress by +3s or 4s
 
# 271 AUTiger1 @ 04/04/12 02:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bedwardsroy19
Sometimes when it doesn't work for me right away turning the system on and off fixes everything and lets me on sportsconnect, hope that helps
Yeah I had tried that but it still wasn't working. I had to completely shut down my modom and restart it. Then I was finally able to get on just barely long enough to get the roster.

Thanks guys!
 
# 272 Yanks22 @ 04/04/12 02:11 AM
Thank you to all for the hard work, time and effort put into these. Cannot wait to try them out.
 
# 273 Aschulz484 @ 04/04/12 02:18 AM
I dont post much, but thanks to all you guys who worked on the roster. First time using this set as normally im to impatient to wait. But these year i wanted to check them out. Thanks again.

Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk
 
# 274 BatsareBugs @ 04/04/12 02:21 AM
Whoever pointed out that Tommy Manzella had a default audio name, that's not true. I just checked and it has [None] for both as I had it when I handed it off to GreatNorthern for faces.

In any case, Throwback, ARoid, and GreatNorthern all did a fantastic job. I know I did some of the faces and of course they did their magic and them even better.
 
# 275 strut24 @ 04/04/12 02:23 AM
Knight -

might I make a suggestion. I know people are going to start asking about what guys and what to do as far as the simming past Spring Training and getting the line ups to stick. As far as I remember, it is just a matter of removing the 15 guys from each team's major league roster so that there are only 25 guys but hopefully you can edit your first post and for all future releases create a post as far as step by step instructions as to how to accomplish this. I am not sure if someone has a list of the 15 guys from each team cuz I think that's what we had last year and I also think Ridin released a set that already had this work done for us and had mentioned he would be doing that again. A reminder post would definitely be helpful cuz I can't remember exactly all the steps.
 
# 276 ZenoMehas @ 04/04/12 02:27 AM
Thanks, this is going to be a great season of baseball and as always we appreciate all of the hard work
 
# 277 kingMELO7 @ 04/04/12 02:32 AM
how is the yankees anyone see yet?
 
# 278 authentic @ 04/04/12 02:34 AM
So far I'm 2-0 with my Cubs. Pulled out two really close games to start the year! 2012!
 
# 279 DrkMynd @ 04/04/12 02:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by authentic
So far I'm 2-0 with my Cubs. Pulled out two really close games to start the year! 2012!
Still in ST, or in the Regular season?

In the first 2 ST games against the A's I lost 3-1, then won 2-1 with a 11th inning walkoff HR by Soriano.(only good thing he has done so far).
 
# 280 R9NALD9 @ 04/04/12 03:07 AM
I can't thank these guys enough!
You guys make a great game a perfect game! THANK YOU!
 


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