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Okay guys...

Here is the Spring Training version of the Operation Sports Full Minors for 2012, for MLB 12 The Show.

This initial set looks really tight... and there is some FANTASTIC work done on these. Dare I say... the best set yet.

There are too many to thank for this... and I will come back and fill out this post with all those involved, as I know you guys want to get your hands on these and start your franchises.

Here is the link for the OSFM ST v.1They will be up in the Vault momentarily...
  • File name: O.S.F.M. SPRING
Thanks for all your patience... and most of all enjoy!!!

I just want to thank some people... and I have to say... this community is truly exceptional. Operation Sports is simply the best run website I visit. Bar none... and the members that frequent here are one of the main reasons. Good people attract other good people.

In no particular order... I really need to thank all of the people involved in the making of this set... as this is a true community effort and without all of these guys, it would make the process much harder and much, much longer.

Thanks to:

EDITORS and FACES:
JoeRyan33
TNKNGM
sink4ever
davis420
theaub
MLBBob
CWSPalehose19
bedwardsroy19
Karle
theSlab
PsychoBulk
Ivanhoe
mhag4
moose16
TheRunandShoot
Apostle
yankeedaniel99
adamj2281
Ratfink
jmeyers1975
Novanik
authentic
mlbonfox
thekid24
bdolski
tree3five
piratesboy
ilstu24
Rag3vsWorld
cmorris25
juicer420
drustrk3
Jetfire
JGainsey
ElectricWizard
LastRegret

FACES
Majoniak
Willard76
GreatNorthern47
bodhiball
MauerMorneu
GoBucs09
Throwback
NatsFan_1997
Hawnprime
seanjeezy
and
Aroid1313

I'd like to thank ksig24 for his insight and input into the potential base for the set...

... and last but CERTAINLY not least...
RidinDwnKingsley...

Without his TREMENDOUS work and the immense amount of time that he puts into these rosters... they would have taken 3 times as long to do.

I CANNOT say enough about this, as his dedication and sheer bulldog mentality to get it done, means so much to these.

Also to Steve... the owner of O.S. and the mods on here who make it easy to keep the threads in order and viable to use in conjunction with the set.

...and of course thanks to the entire O.S. community for all the input that you guys have been putting into these for YEARS!

THANK YOU!

Guys.....a lot of people have requested to give back in response to these rosters. They offer thanks and several have offered money.
I suggest charities if you really want to do something as a thanks to these.

My suggested charities....The N.Y.C. FireFighters Burn Center....Wounded Warriors....or .....http://www.extra-life.org/

Thank you!

M.K.
Knight165

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# 181 Knight165 @ 04/03/12 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM
I wouldn't have put it quite like you did...but yeah, the Brew Crew's SP potentials are ridiculously inflated. I'm OK with the A ratings but too many of those guys should not be "B" and you're right: not one SP under "C" on the entire roster.
To be honest...I told the guys they could be a bit more liberal with the potentials this year...especially if they offset it with ratings....so a lot of those "A"s are really mid-high B's...

We will make some adjustments.

Also...C's are fine as career minor league players as well as D's.

Thanks.

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 182 ticats8 @ 04/03/12 11:01 PM
Just a question about starting my franchise with these fabulous rosters (thanks a bunch Knight). Will I be able to import the SCEA versions of Moyer and Pettite into my franchise or are you unable to do that? I just don't like seeing them as rookies
 
# 183 RPM @ 04/03/12 11:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight165
To be honest...
You had me at "To be honest..."

You can do no wrong, Mr. Knight. TY for all your hard work every year. TAKE A BREAK!
 
# 184 Dice @ 04/03/12 11:03 PM
Excellent work guys! Ready to start my White Sox franchise!
 
# 185 Knight165 @ 04/03/12 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ticats8
Just a question about starting my franchise with these fabulous rosters (thanks a bunch Knight). Will I be able to import the SCEA versions of Moyer and Pettite into my franchise or are you unable to do that? I just don't like seeing them as rookies
You can but only before you start your franchise.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RPM
^
You had me at "To be honest..."

You can do no wrong, Mr. Knight. TY for all your hard work every year.

Thanks.....
Guys...I'm definitely listening to your corrections and suggestions.
There is another thread for them as well.
If you put them there...it will be easier to get them put on a list for me.
Thanks!

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 186 jenglund @ 04/03/12 11:05 PM
Thank you so much!! What a team this year.

The Show community on OS is a joy to be a part of.
 
# 187 RnRexpress3423 @ 04/03/12 11:07 PM
Another year and another successful OSFM roster. Good job guys and thanks to Knight and whoever else contributed to these rosters!!!
 
# 188 Mick311 @ 04/03/12 11:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight165
To be honest...I told the guys they could be a bit more liberal with the potentials this year...especially if they offset it with ratings....so a lot of those "A"s are really mid-high B's...

We will make some adjustments.

Also...C's are fine as career minor league players as well as D's.

Thanks.

M.K.
Knight165
Agaim, thanks for the hard work....i totally get it. Like I said, everything else looks great, I guess this guy just decided to be a little more 'liberal' than anyone else and I get that too. If I was doing the Cardinals I would probably have gone overboard a bit too, but it joys me to know their farm system is so terrible so it was a bit disappointing to see. Brett Lawrie for Shawn Marcum, lol.
 
# 189 redsfan4life @ 04/03/12 11:14 PM
I would not want to face Tyler Thornburg. 94 MPH fastball, 70 mph curve, 77 mph slider, 78 mph changeup...A potential. Wow. I guess the Brewers are gonna turn into the Braves of the 90's this decade.

Great rosters, but I'm definitely fixing the Brewers.
 
# 190 Mick311 @ 04/03/12 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redsfan4life
I would not want to face Tyler Thornburg. 94 MPH fastball, 70 mph curve, 77 mph slider, 78 mph changeup...A potential. Wow. I guess the Brewers are gonna turn into the Braves of the 90's this decade.

Great rosters, but I'm definitely fixing the Brewers.
Lol I know. Post it when your done....OSFM v.2 Brewers Patch
 
# 191 JoeRyan33 @ 04/03/12 11:18 PM
Big thanks to Knight for pulling all this together. Mammoth task by the great one.


Just a heads up for the non-O's fans or those that haven't been over to the Baltimore Orioles roster thread, I've uploaded to the vault my own versions of the following players which were omitted from this roster:

Dylan Bundy, Manny Machado, Jonathan Schoop and Zelous Wheeler. PSN is Playmus.

Now to play some games.
 
# 192 ttrill @ 04/03/12 11:21 PM
Fantastic job to everyone. Thanks everyone
 
# 193 riotmonster @ 04/03/12 11:21 PM
Big thanks to everyone involved.
 
# 194 Matty86 @ 04/03/12 11:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty86
So those of you who have downloaded the set and started your franchise... Do rosters look pretty good once you start the regular season? The guys who you would expect to be in the lineup ad rotations are staying there??
I'll just assume that no one answering means they're good to go. Time to play some baseball!
 
# 195 TheRunAndShoot @ 04/03/12 11:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight165
To be honest...I told the guys they could be a bit more liberal with the potentials this year...especially if they offset it with ratings....so a lot of those "A"s are really mid-high B's...

We will make some adjustments.

Also...C's are fine as career minor league players as well as D's.

Thanks.

M.K.
Knight165
Really? I thought we were listening to ksig for the top guys. Which is why I had Paxton and Nick Franklin are B's for the M's. To avoid bias I defaulted to ksig and BA. (65+ grade=A, 55-60=B, etc.)

How many sim's did you guys run and for how many years? I haven't ran one yet with these rosters but just with my experiance in tuning the ratings for the M's it seems like there's alot of 2010/11 draft picks that are still a few years away from the majors that would be peaking 3 years into a franchise.

I'll run a sim and post results but thats just from glancing over the rosters. Since it seems like there's alot of high potential guys could I recreate a couple guys for the M's? (depending on how this sim works)


Overall, great work by everyone. It's kinda funny seeing how people do faces. Some guys round the facial features, others emphasis any little thing.
 
# 196 37 @ 04/03/12 11:26 PM
Hopefully any team's farm system or regular club that's inflated will be changed accordingly in V2 assuming Knight and Co. can come to a consensus on each individual prospect/player....It wouldn't be realistic attempting to trade for a prospect/player who has average-good potential in real life but made out to be the next Babe Ruth in this game....Fairness and unbias is all we ask for
 
# 197 bmke92 @ 04/03/12 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick311
MAYBE 2 A ratings....but Rodgers a B?. Thats laughable. I guess the guy is a die-hard MIL fan...there isn't anyway to change the potential is there?
Well the Brewers have 4 of their top 5 prospects as pitchers. So 4 A's isnt all that bad but they are all starting pitchers. Peralta is an obvious A, Jungmann and Bradley were both First Rounders last year, so you can see why they have the A's, so the real fringe A is Thornburg, and he is easily a high B if not a low A. You're right about Rogers, he's a little suspect but he was a First round pick. Rivas and Heckathorn may need to be looked at.

Just my opinion. Loving these rosters so much. Harper, Darvish, and Gary Brown look Phenomenal. I need to look at every team just to admire their faces...that's not creepy right?
 
# 198 Mick311 @ 04/03/12 11:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redsfan4life
I would not want to face Tyler Thornburg. 94 MPH fastball, 70 mph curve, 77 mph slider, 78 mph changeup...A potential. Wow. I guess the Brewers are gonna turn into the Braves of the 90's this decade.

Great rosters, but I'm definitely fixing the Brewers.
Good thing Scarpetta was already in the game and is a C...that would have probably been 5 A rated SP for MIL. I love how he even gave Manny Parra a B & Travis Isakikawa C. The F potential was put into the game for guys like Travis Ishikawa.
 
# 199 redsfan4life @ 04/03/12 11:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmke92
Well the Brewers have 4 of their top 5 prospects as pitchers. So 4 A's isnt all that bad but they are all starting pitchers. Peralta is an obvious A, Jungmann and Bradley were both First Rounders last year, so you can see why they have the A's, so the real fringe A is Thornburg, and he is easily a high B if not a low A. You're right about Rogers, he's a little suspect but he was a First round pick. Rivas and Heckathorn may need to be looked at.

Just my opinion. Loving these rosters so much. Harper, Darvish, and Gary Brown look Phenomenal. I need to look at every team just to admire their faces...that's not creepy right?
Thornburg is a meh B as a SP. He's a much better RP prospect. Which again, is not nearly as valuable. Thornburg's problem is he only has two good pitches, fastball...changeup. He has zero command on his breaking balls. It's not just the pitchers there are a few position players that should not have B potential it's just not consistent with the other teams ratings. My team, the Reds (has a much better system than the Brewers), for example has three B potential SP's, one of whom was a first rounder last year just like the Brewers SP's. I would have zero problem if I could edit the potentials of guys, but well we can't do that.
 
# 200 RPM @ 04/03/12 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmke92
.....Harper, Darvish, and Gary Brown look Phenomenal. I need to look at every team just to admire their faces...that's not creepy right?
Nope, that's what I'm doing. Will be in this spot for hours with PS3 remote in 1 hand, beer in the other, OS on the laptop to my right...only fridge and bathroom breaks allowed. Wife can take out the dog tonight.
 


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