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MLB 12 The Show Team Rankings (Overall, Hitting, Pitching and Defense)

02:49 AM - February 27, 2012 by garyjr33

Compiled these from the American League and National League uniform videos for fun. I am sure they will change a little bit with the new additions, since the roster cutoff, but still fun to look at.

Overall Hitting Pitching Defense

1. Yankees 1. Rangers 1. Yankees 1. Yankees
2. Rangers 2. Red Sox 2. Giants 2. Red Sox
3. Phillies 3. Phillies 3. Phillies 3. Angels
4. Tigers 4. Yankees 4. Braves 4. Phillies
5. Red Sox 5. Tigers 5. Marlins 5. Rangers
6. Cardinals 6. Rockies 6. Tigers 6. Dodgers
7. Angels 7. Blue Jays 7. Reds 7. Diamondbacks
8.Diamondbacks 8. Cardinals 8. Rays 8. Reds
9. Braves 9. Diamondbacks 9. Brewers 9. Rays
10. Blue Jays 10. Angels 10. Angels 10. Orioles
11. Reds 11. Reds 11. Nationals 11. Brewers
12. Giants 12. Brewers 12. Cardinals 12. Rockies
13. Marlins 13. Braves 13. Diamondbacks 13. Cardinals
14. Brewers 14. Orioles 14. Rangers 14. Twins
15. Nationals 15. Nationals 15. Red Sox 15. Padres
16. Rays 16. Marlins 16. Dodgers 16. Tigers
17. Dodgers 17. Indians 17. Blue Jays 17. Blue Jays
18. Rockies 18. Rays 18. White Sox 18. Mariners
19. Indians 19.Giants 19. Indians 19. Cubs
20. White Sox 20. Dodgers 20. Royals 20. Royals
21. Royals 21. White Sox 21. Mets 21. Indians
22. Orioles 22. Cubs 22. Mariners 22. Braves
23. Cubs 23. Padres 23. A's 23. Giants
24. Padres 24. Royals 24. Cubs 24. Pirates
25. A's 25. A's 25.Padres 25. Astros
26. Mets 26. Mariners 26. Twins 26. Nationals
27. Mariners 27.Pirates 27. Pirates 27. Marlins
28. Twins 28. Twins 28. Rockies 28. A's
29. Pirates 29. Mets 29.Orioles 29. White Sox
30. Astros 30. Astros 30. Astros 30. Mets

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# 21 etched Chaos @ 02/27/12 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentQ16


	BULLS H ! T Yankees are so fricken overrated... AGAIN. Hey developers...do you even look at last season's stats? The Angels were #1 in overall pitching (see stats link)...AND they just got better with the addition of CJ Wilson and Hawkins. Do your homework developers!! http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/.../type/expanded

Ahem. Change the stats to MLB and Philly comes top.

# 22 AUTiger1 @ 02/27/12 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by etched Chaos


	He got too reliant on your pen and it cost you down the stretch. If he lets your starters go longer, you likely don't miss the Wildcard, the Cardinals don't luckbox the WS and La Russa doesn't get his crowning glory. That's why the pen should not be so significant ratingswise, because no matter how good it is, the rotation is more important. The Phils had a middle of the road pen in 2011, and it had no negative significance on how good the staff was statistically, sure it may have cost us a sub 3 ERA staff, but the rotation was so good, it didn't matter who was in the pen. That's something that is never reflected in the Show's rankings, every single player seems to have the same impact on thew ranking. So if you have a deep bench or a bullpen filled with nasty relievers, the abundance of players in both gives your rankings a healthy boost.

Yep. But with having Kris Medlen back for the full season and a full season of Arodys Vicaino in the pen we'll have more trustworthy arms to handly the work load. Anyone is better than Scott Linebrink and Scott Proctor! Those guys always came into a game and threw gasoline on an already lit fire!

# 23 etched Chaos @ 02/27/12 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AUTiger1


	Yep. But with having Kris Medlen back for the full season and a full season of Arodys Vicaino in the pen we'll have more trustworthy arms to handly the work load. Anyone is better than Scott Linebrink and Scott Proctor! Those guys always came into a game and threw gasoline on an already lit fire!

I'll bet you anything he still overuses Venters and Kimbrel.

# 24 AUTiger1 @ 02/27/12 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by etched Chaos


	I'll bet you anything he still overuses Venters and Kimbrel.

I'm not biting on that bet because it's a given that Venters and Kimbrel will both be in around 80 games. My only hope is that the Braves don't play 65 extra innings this year like they did last year and actually have a few blowout wins.

# 25 Rasco11 @ 02/27/12 02:15 PM

Weird formula to determine overall?!? Mariners, for example, are ranked higher than 27 in every catagory (the big 3 - hitting, pitching, defense), yet they are 27th overall? Im not screaming the M'a should be higher or lower ranked...Im just saying the overall ranking doesnt appear to add up is all? Perhaps there are managerial, team chemistry ratings that play a role not shown? It would be interesting to learn the equation...

# 26 nomo17k @ 02/27/12 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasco11


	Weird formula to determine overall?!? Mariners, for example, are ranked higher than 27 in every catagory (the big 3 - hitting, pitching, defense), yet they are 27th overall? Im not screaming the M'a should be higher or lower ranked...Im just saying the overall ranking doesnt appear to add up is all? Perhaps there are managerial, team chemistry ratings that play a role not shown? It would be interesting to learn the equation...

This can happen if a few other teams have some big holes and get very poor ratings for those areas. It just means the Mariners are consistently poor in every category, while some other teams are better in more areas but very poor in a few.

# 27 etched Chaos @ 02/27/12 02:27 PM

Just to put into numbers the difference between the impacts of the rotation over the bullpen.

The Phillies last season had 73% of their IP from their rotation, the Yankees with the better pen had 68% of their IP from the rotation. So why when devising rankings and ratings do SCEA not account for the importance of the rotation over the pen? The Phils rotation accounted for 2.58x more IP then their pen.

# 28 AgentQ16 @ 02/27/12 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by etched Chaos


	Ahem. Change the stats to MLB and Philly comes top.

I was referring to the overall AL stats to compare the Angels and Yankees. angels should have the top pitching ranking in the AL.

# 29 jmik58 @ 02/27/12 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AUTiger1


	It's was an utter disappointment that Fredi treated our pitchers like that but he learned from the best how to not properly run a pitching staff [Bobby Cox]. He routinely took our starters out after 5 2/3 or 6 innings when they only had around 90-95 pitches. Ridiculous!

Did you really just say that Bobby Cox didn't know how to run a pitching staff?

# 30 douggoud @ 02/27/12 06:28 PM

Ok, a few problems I have. One: Why are the Yankees better than the Rangers? Sure, Pineda, Kuroda and Ibanez would make a few teams better, but when you've got a starting rotation of Sabathia, Nova, Pineda, Kuroda, and Garcia, lets face it, the only real threat in there is Sabathia, (and maybe Nova). The Rangers have got Lewis, Feliz and Darvish (though, Feliz and Darvish are BIG maybes in that rotation). The Yankees have a better bullpen, thats pretty apparent. But lets face it, the Rangers would out slug the Yankees any day of the week. And I would definitely say that the Rangers have a better defence than the Yankees (again, lets face it, they are getting old). So, to be blunt, I don't think the Yankees pitching staff is THAT much better than the Rangers staff. So to put the Yank's ahead of the Rangers, I don't agree with.

Also, The Angels. I can't tell you how hard I lol'd when I saw the Angels as 10th in pitching, W......T.......H...... seriously? Arguably the best starting roation in the majors, and the addition of Hawkins in the pen, plus Takahashi, Thompson, (hopefully a good year from Jepsen), Downs, and Walden (who I think will do better than last year). I'm sorry, but wth? Worse than the Brewers, Rays, Reds, and Marlins? I'm sorry, but that's bull

. Lets see, Brewers are about in the same situation as the Angels, good rotation (not as good as the Angels mind you), and an average bullpen, the only guys in their pen that I can name are Axford and K-Rod. And I'm sorry, those two don't make them better than the Angels. The Rays are a bit more understandable, but still not as good.
And the Reds and Marlins? lol, don't get me started.

Anyways, lets face it, this always happens this time a year, lol, none of us (except Yankees fans of course) are satisfied with where our teams are.

That said, I know what the first thing will be that I'll do when I get the game..............

# 31 metsfan4life1 @ 02/27/12 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jmik58


	Did you really just say that Bobby Cox didn't know how to run a pitching staff?

The mets defense is the worst in the game and we won't be 29th overall offensively.. We scored the most runs in the NL east! Yeah Reyes isn't here anymore, but still. And just because we have a Duda and Murphy on our team shouldn't give us the worst defense. Tejadas great, Cendos really solid Wrights good, Davis is really solid, Torres is solid, bay is solid, thole was bad and murph is decent. That doesn't translate ointo the worst D in the game, just because we're "suppose to be bad" doesn't mean we should have the ranking so out of place so we do awful in a video game. Are pitching is where it should be, the D and Bats are just way out of place. But with Davis, Murphy, and Ike all being underrated, I can see why..

# 32 metsfan4life1 @ 02/27/12 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by douggoud


	Ok, a few problems I have. One: Why are the Yankees better than the Rangers? Sure, Pineda, Kuroda and Ibanez would make a few teams better, but when you've got a starting rotation of Sabathia, Nova, Pineda, Kuroda, and Garcia, lets face it, the only real threat in there is Sabathia, (and maybe Nova). The Rangers have got Lewis, Feliz and Darvish (though, Feliz and Darvish are BIG maybes in that rotation). The Yankees have a better bullpen, thats pretty apparent. But lets face it, the Rangers would out slug the Yankees any day of the week. And I would definitely say that the Rangers have a better defence than the Yankees (again, lets face it, they are getting old). So, to be blunt, I don't think the Yankees pitching staff is THAT much better than the Rangers staff. So to put the Yank's ahead of the Rangers, I don't agree with. Also, The Angels. I can't tell you how hard I lol'd when I saw the Angels as 10th in pitching, W......T.......H...... seriously? Arguably the best starting roation in the majors, and the addition of Hawkins in the pen, plus Takahashi, Thompson, (hopefully a good year from Jepsen), Downs, and Walden (who I think will do better than last year). I'm sorry, but wth? Worse than the Brewers, Rays, Reds, and Marlins? I'm sorry, but that's bull . Lets see, Brewers are about in the same situation as the Angels, good rotation (not as good as the Angels mind you), and an average bullpen, the only guys in their pen that I can name are Axford and K-Rod. And I'm sorry, those two don't make them better than the Angels. The Rays are a bit more understandable, but still not as good. And the Reds and Marlins? lol, don't get me started. Anyways, lets face it, this always happens this time a year, lol, none of us (except Yankees fans of course) are satisfied with where our teams are. That said, I know what the first thing will be that I'll do when I get the game..............

I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

# 33 metsfan4life1 @ 02/27/12 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by metsfan4life1


	I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

The Angels have three guys in their staff that can strike out 200+! Pitch 210+ inngings and post ERAs under 3.00. That right there should make them at least number 12. Add in Walden and Hawkins and Takasshi and that brings them to like an 9 or 8.

# 34 hitstreak13 @ 02/27/12 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dickey1331


	Thanks for the list. Im still trying to decide who I want to play with this year.

You should go with the Stros. They are perhaps the worst team this year by far. Absolutely nothing on their side this year. Plus, they have never won a world series, so it would give you an incentive to aim for one with them

# 35 douggoud @ 02/27/12 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by metsfan4life1


	I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

Bell's an A, thats where I have to dissagree, he is a top notch closer (a downsight better than K-Rod thats for sure). The thing that SHOULD hurt the Marlins, but apparently doesn't, is the REST of their bullpen. I mean, outside of Leo Nunez and Heath Bell, who is there? lol, Their rotation is ok, but the bullpen should hurt them.

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Originally Posted by metsfan4life1


	The Angels have three guys in their staff that can strike out 200+! Pitch 210+ inngings and post ERAs under 3.00. That right there should make them at least number 12. Add in Walden and Hawkins and Takasshi and that brings them to like an 9 or 8.

Santana also has pitched over 220 innings and pitched over 200 strikeouts before (will he again? Hard to say) and don't forget Scott Downs, he is very good out of our pen'. I thinik the Angels should AT LEAST be about 6th or so, because I do know that our pen isn't the best.

# 36 metsfan4life1 @ 02/27/12 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by douggoud


	Bell's an A, thats where I have to dissagree, he is a top notch closer (a downsight better than K-Rod thats for sure). The thing that SHOULD hurt the Marlins, but apparently doesn't, is the REST of their bullpen. I mean, outside of Leo Nunez and Heath Bell, who is there? lol, Their rotation is ok, but the bullpen should hurt them. Santana also has pitched over 220 innings and pitched over 200 strikeouts before (will he again? Hard to say) and don't forget Scott Downs, he is very good out of our pen'. I thinik the Angels should AT LEAST be about 6th or so, because I do know that our pen isn't the best.

I knew I was forgetting someone! Yeah with santana they should be an 6 or seven! They're rotation should be in the top 3 in the game! The phillies are first, then the angels and then braves or giants.

# 37 metsfan4life1 @ 02/27/12 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hitstreak13


	You should go with the Stros. They are perhaps the worst team this year by far. Absolutely nothing on their side this year. Plus, they have never won a world series, so it would give you an incentive to aim for one with them

They don't have any stand out guys.. Either prospects or decent p,ayers. Wandys the only thing that will keep the Astros from losing 110+ in the game. And even in reality, Wandys not that good and he's overrated in the game.

# 38 AUTiger1 @ 02/27/12 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jmik58


	Did you really just say that Bobby Cox didn't know how to run a pitching staff?

Yes. And I'll say it again. Bobby lost more games than he won by not knowing how to properly manage a pitching staff. The difference between Tony La Russa and Bobby Cox? Their ability to properly handle a pitching staff. That's why La Russa won 3 World Series as manager and Bobby only won 1. And over Bobby's last 5 or 6 years as manager it was just ridiculous how awful his pitching decisions were and Fredi is a carbon copy in that department.

# 39 metsfan4life1 @ 02/27/12 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by baseballstar77


	In my opinion the Mets are not 29th in hitting, hitting isn't all about homeruns and RBI'S. The Mets finished 6th in the MLB in hits by a team. They also finished 6th in the MLB in batting average and on base percentage. To me this is a better indicator of showing how well a team can hit.

Couldn't explain it better! Thus, it was last year while having Beltran and Reyes. Beltran for only 3/4.. But, at the lowest, our hitting should be a 21. I say, if The likes of Duda and Murphy and Davis weren't rated so low, we'd be at that 21. We could easily
Get to a 17-18! With basically no "Great great offensive player". Wirghts really good and Davis is pretty good. Duda, from last year, was pretty good. Tejada is probably an awful hitter in the show.. But I'll edit, just mad because we're expected to be bad; they took parts of our offense and defense and dubbed it a little lower than it should be. Also Murphs a solid Offensive player at the least.

# 40 douggoud @ 02/27/12 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by metsfan4life1


	I knew I was forgetting someone! Yeah with santana they should be an 6 or seven! They're rotation should be in the top 3 in the game! The phillies are first, then the angels and then braves or giants.

I think that the guys at SCEA should make a seperate rating for the rotation and the bullpen. Also, Jerome Williams should get at least 10 wins this year, if not 15. I think he'll do great for us this year.

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