MLB 12 The Show Team Rankings (Overall, Hitting, Pitching and Defense)

[AUTiger1]

Quote: Originally Posted by etched Chaos

I'll bet you anything he still overuses Venters and Kimbrel.

I'm not biting on that bet because it's a given that Venters and Kimbrel will both be in around 80 games. My only hope is that the Braves don't play 65 extra innings this year like they did last year and actually have a few blowout wins.

[Rasco11]

Weird formula to determine overall?!? Mariners, for example, are ranked higher than 27 in every catagory (the big 3 - hitting, pitching, defense), yet they are 27th overall? Im not screaming the M'a should be higher or lower ranked...Im just saying the overall ranking doesnt appear to add up is all? Perhaps there are managerial, team chemistry ratings that play a role not shown? It would be interesting to learn the equation...

[nomo17k]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rasco11

Weird formula to determine overall?!? Mariners, for example, are ranked higher than 27 in every catagory (the big 3 - hitting, pitching, defense), yet they are 27th overall? Im not screaming the M'a should be higher or lower ranked...Im just saying the overall ranking doesnt appear to add up is all? Perhaps there are managerial, team chemistry ratings that play a role not shown? It would be interesting to learn the equation...

This can happen if a few other teams have some big holes and get very poor ratings for those areas. It just means the Mariners are consistently poor in every category, while some other teams are better in more areas but very poor in a few.

[etched Chaos]

Just to put into numbers the difference between the impacts of the rotation over the bullpen.

The Phillies last season had 73% of their IP from their rotation, the Yankees with the better pen had 68% of their IP from the rotation. So why when devising rankings and ratings do SCEA not account for the importance of the rotation over the pen? The Phils rotation accounted for 2.58x more IP then their pen.

[AgentQ16]

Quote: Originally Posted by etched Chaos

Ahem. Change the stats to MLB and Philly comes top.

I was referring to the overall AL stats to compare the Angels and Yankees. angels should have the top pitching ranking in the AL.

[jmik58]

Quote: Originally Posted by AUTiger1

It's was an utter disappointment that Fredi treated our pitchers like that but he learned from the best how to not properly run a pitching staff [Bobby Cox]. He routinely took our starters out after 5 2/3 or 6 innings when they only had around 90-95 pitches. Ridiculous!

Did you really just say that Bobby Cox didn't know how to run a pitching staff?

[douggoud]

Ok, a few problems I have. One: Why are the Yankees better than the Rangers? Sure, Pineda, Kuroda and Ibanez would make a few teams better, but when you've got a starting rotation of Sabathia, Nova, Pineda, Kuroda, and Garcia, lets face it, the only real threat in there is Sabathia, (and maybe Nova). The Rangers have got Lewis, Feliz and Darvish (though, Feliz and Darvish are BIG maybes in that rotation). The Yankees have a better bullpen, thats pretty apparent. But lets face it, the Rangers would out slug the Yankees any day of the week. And I would definitely say that the Rangers have a better defence than the Yankees (again, lets face it, they are getting old). So, to be blunt, I don't think the Yankees pitching staff is THAT much better than the Rangers staff. So to put the Yank's ahead of the Rangers, I don't agree with.

Also, The Angels. I can't tell you how hard I lol'd when I saw the Angels as 10th in pitching, W......T.......H...... seriously? Arguably the best starting roation in the majors, and the addition of Hawkins in the pen, plus Takahashi, Thompson, (hopefully a good year from Jepsen), Downs, and Walden (who I think will do better than last year). I'm sorry, but wth? Worse than the Brewers, Rays, Reds, and Marlins? I'm sorry, but that's bull . Lets see, Brewers are about in the same situation as the Angels, good rotation (not as good as the Angels mind you), and an average bullpen, the only guys in their pen that I can name are Axford and K-Rod. And I'm sorry, those two don't make them better than the Angels. The Rays are a bit more understandable, but still not as good.
And the Reds and Marlins? lol, don't get me started.

Anyways, lets face it, this always happens this time a year, lol, none of us (except Yankees fans of course) are satisfied with where our teams are.

That said, I know what the first thing will be that I'll do when I get the game..............

[metsfan4life1]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmik58

Did you really just say that Bobby Cox didn't know how to run a pitching staff?

The mets defense is the worst in the game and we won't be 29th overall offensively.. We scored the most runs in the NL east! Yeah Reyes isn't here anymore, but still. And just because we have a Duda and Murphy on our team shouldn't give us the worst defense. Tejadas great, Cendos really solid Wrights good, Davis is really solid, Torres is solid, bay is solid, thole was bad and murph is decent. That doesn't translate ointo the worst D in the game, just because we're "suppose to be bad" doesn't mean we should have the ranking so out of place so we do awful in a video game. Are pitching is where it should be, the D and Bats are just way out of place. But with Davis, Murphy, and Ike all being underrated, I can see why..