MLB 12 The Show Team Rankings (Overall, Hitting, Pitching and Defense)

[metsfan4life1]

Quote: Originally Posted by douggoud

Ok, a few problems I have. One: Why are the Yankees better than the Rangers? Sure, Pineda, Kuroda and Ibanez would make a few teams better, but when you've got a starting rotation of Sabathia, Nova, Pineda, Kuroda, and Garcia, lets face it, the only real threat in there is Sabathia, (and maybe Nova). The Rangers have got Lewis, Feliz and Darvish (though, Feliz and Darvish are BIG maybes in that rotation). The Yankees have a better bullpen, thats pretty apparent. But lets face it, the Rangers would out slug the Yankees any day of the week. And I would definitely say that the Rangers have a better defence than the Yankees (again, lets face it, they are getting old). So, to be blunt, I don't think the Yankees pitching staff is THAT much better than the Rangers staff. So to put the Yank's ahead of the Rangers, I don't agree with. Also, The Angels. I can't tell you how hard I lol'd when I saw the Angels as 10th in pitching, W......T.......H...... seriously? Arguably the best starting roation in the majors, and the addition of Hawkins in the pen, plus Takahashi, Thompson, (hopefully a good year from Jepsen), Downs, and Walden (who I think will do better than last year). I'm sorry, but wth? Worse than the Brewers, Rays, Reds, and Marlins? I'm sorry, but that's bull . Lets see, Brewers are about in the same situation as the Angels, good rotation (not as good as the Angels mind you), and an average bullpen, the only guys in their pen that I can name are Axford and K-Rod. And I'm sorry, those two don't make them better than the Angels. The Rays are a bit more understandable, but still not as good. And the Reds and Marlins? lol, don't get me started. Anyways, lets face it, this always happens this time a year, lol, none of us (except Yankees fans of course) are satisfied with where our teams are. That said, I know what the first thing will be that I'll do when I get the game..............

I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

[metsfan4life1]

Quote: Originally Posted by metsfan4life1

I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

The Angels have three guys in their staff that can strike out 200+! Pitch 210+ inngings and post ERAs under 3.00. That right there should make them at least number 12. Add in Walden and Hawkins and Takasshi and that brings them to like an 9 or 8.

[hitstreak13]

Quote: Originally Posted by dickey1331

Thanks for the list. Im still trying to decide who I want to play with this year.

You should go with the Stros. They are perhaps the worst team this year by far. Absolutely nothing on their side this year. Plus, they have never won a world series, so it would give you an incentive to aim for one with them

[douggoud]

Quote: Originally Posted by metsfan4life1

I was like WTH too. The marlins are not as good on the pitching side as their perceived in the game. Yeah they have Burhlee Johnson Nolasco and Sanchez.. But Johnson is a A and Marks a B-. Nolasco is a C+ and Sanchez is a C. And bells not as good as everyone thinks he is. Bells a B. that sure the heck isn't a top ten pitching team. In the NL, yes, in the majors, no way. Burhlee and Nolasco have always had ERAs 3.40+.. So.. And Johnson's always hurt.

Bell's an A, thats where I have to dissagree, he is a top notch closer (a downsight better than K-Rod thats for sure). The thing that SHOULD hurt the Marlins, but apparently doesn't, is the REST of their bullpen. I mean, outside of Leo Nunez and Heath Bell, who is there? lol, Their rotation is ok, but the bullpen should hurt them.

Quote: Originally Posted by metsfan4life1

The Angels have three guys in their staff that can strike out 200+! Pitch 210+ inngings and post ERAs under 3.00. That right there should make them at least number 12. Add in Walden and Hawkins and Takasshi and that brings them to like an 9 or 8.

Santana also has pitched over 220 innings and pitched over 200 strikeouts before (will he again? Hard to say) and don't forget Scott Downs, he is very good out of our pen'. I thinik the Angels should AT LEAST be about 6th or so, because I do know that our pen isn't the best.

[metsfan4life1]

Quote: Originally Posted by douggoud

Bell's an A, thats where I have to dissagree, he is a top notch closer (a downsight better than K-Rod thats for sure). The thing that SHOULD hurt the Marlins, but apparently doesn't, is the REST of their bullpen. I mean, outside of Leo Nunez and Heath Bell, who is there? lol, Their rotation is ok, but the bullpen should hurt them. Santana also has pitched over 220 innings and pitched over 200 strikeouts before (will he again? Hard to say) and don't forget Scott Downs, he is very good out of our pen'. I thinik the Angels should AT LEAST be about 6th or so, because I do know that our pen isn't the best.

I knew I was forgetting someone! Yeah with santana they should be an 6 or seven! They're rotation should be in the top 3 in the game! The phillies are first, then the angels and then braves or giants.

[metsfan4life1]

Quote: Originally Posted by hitstreak13

You should go with the Stros. They are perhaps the worst team this year by far. Absolutely nothing on their side this year. Plus, they have never won a world series, so it would give you an incentive to aim for one with them

They don't have any stand out guys.. Either prospects or decent p,ayers. Wandys the only thing that will keep the Astros from losing 110+ in the game. And even in reality, Wandys not that good and he's overrated in the game.

[baseballstar77]

In my opinion the Mets are not 29th in hitting, hitting isn't all about homeruns and RBI'S. The Mets finished 6th in the MLB in hits by a team. They also finished 6th in the MLB in batting average and on base percentage. To me this is a better indicator of showing how well a team can hit.

[AUTiger1]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmik58

Did you really just say that Bobby Cox didn't know how to run a pitching staff?

Yes. And I'll say it again. Bobby lost more games than he won by not knowing how to properly manage a pitching staff. The difference between Tony La Russa and Bobby Cox? Their ability to properly handle a pitching staff. That's why La Russa won 3 World Series as manager and Bobby only won 1. And over Bobby's last 5 or 6 years as manager it was just ridiculous how awful his pitching decisions were and Fredi is a carbon copy in that department.