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NCAA Football 12 Title Update #4 Is In The Works

12:07 PM - October 7, 2011 by YeOldTonk

Lost in the NCAA Football 12 Title Update #3 announcement, released earlier today, EA Sports and the NCAA Football 12 team have stated they are working on title update #4.

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	We'd also like to announce that the team is currently working on a fourth title update and we will announce details at a later date.

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# 121 talksnmaths @ 10/19/11 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by talksnmaths


	Do you have a slider set that you use to improve the passing experience?? I finally got so frustrated today that I busted my controller office space style. That's gonna set me back, but seriously, I'd do anything to be able to pass in this game. Thanks

More specifically, these are the issues driving me crazy:
1. The pass rush is insane and it doesn't matter if you're playing FCS Midwest or Ohio State. There's just never enough time for complex routes to develop, so you're stuck using the same short passing plays all the time.
2. Even when bringing the house, the defense seems to still be able to adequately cover all of your receivers.
3. DBs are too quick to react to the throw. Even if they are clearly running away from your receiver in pursuit of another, as soon as you hit that pass button they immediately redirect in the opposite direction to cover.
4. LBs are insane in coverage. Constantly tipping passes, making one handed interceptions on slant routes, etc.

# 122 mWolfe @ 10/19/11 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fistofrage


	After playing a ton of games the 3 major things that are really holding this game back for me are.... 1. AI QB just can never seem to get going. AI passing isn't a threat at all and the QB accuracy slider does little or nothing to help. 2. Fumbles....Where are they? Seen about 4 fumbles in 50+ games. 3. Penalty sliders of no consequence. Human AI team never jumps offsides, no pass interference, etc. Fix these and whatever dynasty problems there are and the game would be decent.

I agree with #3 , there is so much missing in that category. Here is thing for you to try Fist make sure that QB slider and Ctch Slider = 100 together and you should start to see a difference I have found that when the two that corispond to =100 that they work alot better, so when you move one move the other to keep it at 100 combined.. Also RBA slider is like a drug for the offense the higher it is than the tackle slider the better the offense is, now on the flip side to that is the Tackle slider is the juice for the defense the higher it is the the RBA slider the better the defense plays and the more fumbles you will have. Try RBA at 10 and Tack 90. Watch how fast dline breaks there blocks to get to the running back.

Now the thing I want tuned the most is the O-line and D-line interaction. I have tried everything to get the DE to be more effective to utilize the spin move or something besides the same two animations I have been seeing that gets them by the blocks. I have come to realize it is in the code for the Tackles to swing wide with the DE's to form the pocket. I have edited ratings for those two position for a while now and no combination seems to get them to act the way I want. What I would like to see because I saw it in Madden with Demarcus Ware was he used a spin move to beat a LG to get to the QB. I would like to see that in NCAA. That is what I would liked tuned.

# 123 fistofrage @ 10/19/11 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mWolfe


	I agree with #3 , there is so much missing in that category. Here is thing for you to try Fist make sure that QB slider and Ctch Slider = 100 together and you should start to see a difference I have found that when the two that corispond to =100 that they work alot better, so when you move one move the other to keep it at 100 combined.. Also RBA slider is like a drug for the offense the higher it is than the tackle slider the better the offense is, now on the flip side to that is the Tackle slider is the juice for the defense the higher it is the the RBA slider the better the defense plays and the more fumbles you will have. Try RBA at 10 and Tack 90. Watch how fast dline breaks there blocks to get to the running back. Now the thing I want tuned the most is the O-line and D-line interaction. I have tried everything to get the DE to be more effective to utilize the spin move or something besides the same two animations I have been seeing that gets them by the blocks. I have come to realize it is in the code for the Tackles to swing wide with the DE's to form the pocket. I have edited ratings for those two position for a while now and no combination seems to get them to act the way I want. What I would like to see because I saw it in Madden with Demarcus Ware was he used a spin move to beat a LG to get to the QB. I would like to see that in NCAA. That is what I would liked tuned.

You have any suggestions for fumbles? I think the AI QB acccuracy slider is way out of whack. The RBA slider for the AI has to be at least 50 and shouldn't really be any more than 5 to 10 points higher than the human tackle slider or crazy things happen.

# 124 TDenverFan @ 10/19/11 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by talksnmaths


	More specifically, these are the issues driving me crazy: 1. The pass rush is insane and it doesn't matter if you're playing FCS Midwest or Ohio State. There's just never enough time for complex routes to develop, so you're stuck using the same short passing plays all the time. 2. Even when bringing the house, the defense seems to still be able to adequately cover all of your receivers. 3. DBs are too quick to react to the throw. Even if they are clearly running away from your receiver in pursuit of another, as soon as you hit that pass button they immediately redirect in the opposite direction to cover. 4. LBs are insane in coverage. Constantly tipping passes, making one handed interceptions on slant routes, etc.

#2 and 3 I agree with.
However, IRL, a QB generally has 2-4 seconds to throw a pass. The game generally gives you more than that.

#4 was worse before the tuner/patch, I really don't see it much at all now.

# 125 cbc72 @ 10/19/11 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by talksnmaths


	Do you have a slider set that you use to improve the passing experience?? I finally got so frustrated today that I busted my controller office space style. That's gonna set me back, but seriously, I'd do anything to be able to pass in this game. Thanks

Dang. I had a slider set up for All-American that helped me a bit, but it appears threads with no posts disappear after a month.

Anyway, basically turn INT for user and CPU down to 15 or lower.

Turn pass coverage for CPU to 0

Turn pass blocking for user to 100

Turn catching for user to 60.

Turn QB accuracy for user to 75.

Thanks to bcruise for letting me know how to find the older threads, here is the link to my slider thread.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-impaired.html

# 126 mWolfe @ 10/19/11 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fistofrage


	You have any suggestions for fumbles? I think the AI QB acccuracy slider is way out of whack. The RBA slider for the AI has to be at least 50 and shouldn't really be any more than 5 to 10 points higher than the human tackle slider or crazy things happen.

Hum	QB ACC	=	100
Hum	WR-CTCH	=	100

Hum	P-BLK	=	100
CPU	P-Rush	=	100

Hum	RB ABIL	=	100
CPU	Tak	=	100

Hum	R-BLK	=	100
CPU	Rush-D	=	100

Hum	P-COV	=	100
Hum	INT	=	100


CPU	QB ACC	=	100
CPU	WR-CTCH	=	100

CPU	P-BLK	=	100
Hum	P-Rush	=	100

CPU	RB ABIL	=	100
Hum	Tak	=	100

CPU	R-BLK	=	100
Hum	Rush-D	=	100

CPU	P-COV	=	100
CPU	INT	=	100

Hum	FG-Pow	=	100
Hum	FG-Acc	=	100

Hum	P-Pow	=	100
Hum	P-Acc	=	100

CPU	FG-Pow	=	100
CPU	FG-Acc	=	100

CPU	P-Pow	=	100
CPU	P-Acc	=	100

Keeping these to always equal 100 works great in CPU/CPU games HUM/CPU, and COA/CPU games.

The other thing is the higher the RBA slider the lower the RBLK sliders needs to be so the procedural awareness works properly and lineman just do't bowl over the d-line, same goes for the Tackle slider the higher it is the higher the blocking sliders will be so the D-line don't bowl over the o-line.

# 127 bcruise @ 10/19/11 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cbc72


	Dang. I had a slider set up for All-American that helped me a bit, but it appears threads with no posts disappear after a month. Anyway, basically turn INT for user and CPU down to 15 or lower. Turn pass coverage for CPU to 0 Turn pass blocking for user to 100 Turn catching for user to 60. Turn QB accuracy for user to 75.

They're still there, just either use the search feature or scroll down to the bottom of the forum and set "Display Options" to something longer than "last month"

# 128 cbc72 @ 10/19/11 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by talksnmaths


	More specifically, these are the issues driving me crazy: 1. The pass rush is insane and it doesn't matter if you're playing FCS Midwest or Ohio State. There's just never enough time for complex routes to develop, so you're stuck using the same short passing plays all the time. 2. Even when bringing the house, the defense seems to still be able to adequately cover all of your receivers. 3. DBs are too quick to react to the throw. Even if they are clearly running away from your receiver in pursuit of another, as soon as you hit that pass button they immediately redirect in the opposite direction to cover. 4. LBs are insane in coverage. Constantly tipping passes, making one handed interceptions on slant routes, etc.

On #3, I have hit the throw button as I was being sacked and the DB reacted to where the throw would have gone, but my QB never actually got to throw the ball, or even started to make a throwing animation. That is how ridiculous that programming is.

# 129 talksnmaths @ 10/19/11 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TDenverFan


	#2 and 3 I agree with. However, IRL, a QB generally has 2-4 seconds to throw a pass. The game generally gives you more than that. #4 was worse before the tuner/patch, I really don't see it much at all now.

Fair enough. I would say, then, that the WRs don't run their long routes fast enough. If you have routes that slant streak and slant again, the receiver will never complete that route before you're sacked. And on my defensive side I get to the QB way too fast way too often. Last season, three of my defensive lineman occupied the top three sack leader spots. My line just isn't that good.

# 130 talksnmaths @ 10/19/11 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cbc72


	Dang. I had a slider set up for All-American that helped me a bit, but it appears threads with no posts disappear after a month. Anyway, basically turn INT for user and CPU down to 15 or lower. Turn pass coverage for CPU to 0 Turn pass blocking for user to 100 Turn catching for user to 60. Turn QB accuracy for user to 75. Thanks to bcruise for letting me know how to find the older threads, here is the link to my slider thread. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-impaired.html

I can't thank you enough. I'm using your sliders now and it feels a little more like last year's game. I may need to bump up the CPU abilities a tad as sometimes they do some stupid stuff in coverage like run away from a receiver after he's already caught the ball. Also, I may bump up the Human INT ratings as well. I never got that many interceptions as it was. It always seemed like the CPU was very sure handed on defense, but I was always hearing the announcers saying "Man, he should have caught that one." when my team had a chance at an INT.

Anyway, I thought I was the only guy in his mid 30's with a full-time job and grad school who played NCAA football. I just want to relax and unwind. I don't expect to win every time, but I also don't have time to figure out what the money plays are or to scheme for each opponent. This thread was exactly what I needed. You may have saved the life of a new sixaxis controller

# 131 LionsFanNJ @ 10/19/11 07:33 PM

The main thing I've done in regards to the passing game on both sides was to deop the rush to 20. Just a personal preference because that gives the time to let stuff develop deep ie one on one coverages and scrambling qbs will have lanes to run if nothing is open. Most people don't seem to like the game playing like that, but I wanted to compensate for the stupid slow developing routes that never seemed to have time to work. At least now I've got some time to pass these routes. It also has given the ends on both teams more pressure and more varied pressure overall. But to each his own. I don't think the majority of this forum wants to play that way. The player edit thread and that slider has given me enough enjoyment for this until 13 comes out. Ill still be playing this months down the line.

All that being said....I WANT SOME TUNERS.

# 132 indycolts727 @ 10/19/11 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by talksnmaths


	I can't thank you enough. I'm using your sliders now and it feels a little more like last year's game. I may need to bump up the CPU abilities a tad as sometimes they do some stupid stuff in coverage like run away from a receiver after he's already caught the ball. Also, I may bump up the Human INT ratings as well. I never got that many interceptions as it was. It always seemed like the CPU was very sure handed on defense, but I was always hearing the announcers saying "Man, he should have caught that one." when my team had a chance at an INT. Anyway, I thought I was the only guy in his mid 30's with a full-time job and grad school who played NCAA football. I just want to relax and unwind. I don't expect to win every time, but I also don't have time to figure out what the money plays are or to scheme for each opponent. This thread was exactly what I needed. You may have saved the life of a new sixaxis controller

Hey,I live in Westfield! I'm also mid30's, full-time job, kids, etc, and I play NCAA nightly! ... Well, once the wife/kids are asleep, anyway.

# 133 talksnmaths @ 10/19/11 08:51 PM

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	Hey,I live in Westfield! I'm also mid30's, full-time job, kids, etc, and I play NCAA nightly! ... Well, once the wife/kids are asleep, anyway.

Awesome, are you on PS3 or XBox? I'm PS3. If you're the same, you should add me (my PS3 name is the same as my name on this forum). We can play some live games. I also play Madden and MLB The Show.

# 134 ndfan1993 @ 10/19/11 08:53 PM

Look at all these northsiders in here....Fishers.

# 135 Sundown2600 @ 10/19/11 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mWolfe

For fumble have the tacle slider higher than the rba slider. They set the tempo for the game. I have right now the HUM RBA at 15 and the CPU Tack at 85 which equals 100. for the CPU I have their RBA at 35 and the HUM Tackle slider at 65, tackles are still being broke, weight is respect more and the game plays nice.
here is a break down of which slider affects the other and the total the 2 together needs to equal.

Hum QB ACC = 100
Hum WR-CTCH

Hum P-BLK = 100
CPU P-Rush

Hum RB ABIL = 100
CPU Tak

Hum R-BLK = 100
CPU Rush-D

Hum P-COV = 100
Hum INT

CPU QB ACC = 100
CPU WR-CTCH

CPU P-BLK = 100
Hum P-Rush

CPU RB ABIL = 100
Hum Tak

CPU R-BLK = 100
Hum Rush-D

CPU P-COV = 100
CPU INT

Hum FG-Pow = 100
Hum FG-Acc

Hum P-Pow = 100
Hum P-Acc

CPU FG-Pow = 100
CPU FG-Acc

CPU P-Pow = 100
CPU P-Acc

Keeping these to always equal 100 works great in CPU/CPU games HUM/CPU, and COA/CPU games.

The other thing is the higher the RBA slider the lower the RBLK sliders needs to be so the procedural awareness works properly and lineman just do't bowl over the d-line, same goes for the Tackle slider the higher it is the higher the blocking sliders will be so the D-line don't bowl over the o-line.

Gonna test this now Wolfe.

# 136 talksnmaths @ 10/19/11 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ndfan1993


	Look at all these northsiders in here....Fishers.

Rock on! Indy northside represent! We've got the Hamilton Co. trifecta in the house.

# 137 indycolts727 @ 10/19/11 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by talksnmaths


	Rock on! Indy northside represent! We've got the Hamilton Co. trifecta in the house.

Sweet - good friend lives in Noblesville - we've played this since NCAA 2001. My psnID is hu_fling_du.

# 138 indycolts727 @ 10/19/11 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ndfan1993


	Look at all these northsiders in here....Fishers.

Go Irish! I'm heading up to the Navy game next weekend.

# 139 ndfan1993 @ 10/20/11 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by indycolts727


	Go Irish! I'm heading up to the Navy game next weekend.

I will be up there this weekend for the ND-U$C game.

PSN: ndfan1993

# 140 blLLD0 @ 10/20/11 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ndfan1993


	Look at all these northsiders in here....Fishers.

Fi-Town!!!

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