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ESPN The Gamer has posted the Madden NFL 12 player ratings for the top 6 wide receivers in the game.

Andre Johnson: 97
Larry Fitzgerald: 96
Roddy White: 96
Reggie Wayne: 95
Calvin Johnson: 93
Greg Jennings: 93


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# 81 BlackJackRabbit @ 08/04/11 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ANDROMADA 1
Where does Vince Jackson stand? is he not an elite wr? I would have him graded better than a couple guys on that list I think. Can't say for sure though haven't seen too many chargr games.
Vincent Jackson only played five games last season due to a contract dispute.
 
# 82 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/04/11 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Raw Energy
Come on man If you take your time you can. Its not that bad
You don't notice that he's talking about how Jordan Shipley owned the Super Bowl when his team was one of the worst in the NFL last year and came nowhere near the playoffs?
 
# 83 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/04/11 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas
One good season? The guy has been productive since he entered the league while playing on some of the worst offenses in the league at the time. In reality, he doesn't have "bad" history of dropping passes and every year the guys that lead the league in drops are usually guys who have the most targets. Just because he's been near the top doesn't negate the fact that he has only gotten better since coming in as a rookie and had a breakout season last year with practically no other weapons on the receiving core other than Tony Moeaki.
He's put up decent numbers, but his numbers for his career thus far are just slightly better than Braylon Edwards. The only WR in the NFL that has dropped a higher percentage of his passes since Bowe has been in the league was Braylon Edwards. Bowe is the 2nd worst in the league, and he isn't even a guy like DeSean Jackson that has the excuse that all his drops are on 40 yard passes. Bowe just has bad hands, plain and simple. Last year, put up 1100 yards and 15 TDs. Lloyd put up 1400 yards and 11 TDs. Both had great seasons, but neither are anywhere near being top 5 WRs in the NFL yet. They simply have too much to prove still.
 
# 84 at23steelers @ 08/04/11 01:35 PM
1. AJ
2. Fitzy
3. White
4. CJ
5. Wayne
6. Jennings
7. Brandon Marshall
8. Welker
9. Steve Smith (Car)
10. Holmes
11. Lloyd
12. Wallace
13. Desean Jackson
14. Bowe
15. Vincent Jackson
 
# 85 steinhauser34 @ 08/04/11 02:36 PM
desean jackson isnt a top 10 wr. hes fast as hell and very explosive but you put a lockdown corner on him he wont get ****. hes not a great route runner and his hands arent fantastic. hes like devin hester, incredibly valuable to the team but that doesn't make him tops at his position
 
# 86 bmj2k7 @ 08/04/11 02:39 PM
Sorry i meant jordy nelson not shipley and nelson did make jennings dissapear which is why nfl players ranked 14 wide recievers ahead of jennings, let me repaet that, 14 Wrs were rated higher than jennings, bc nelson showed him up, if it wasn't for him they don't with the superbowl and jennings 2 tds dont matter, jennings is a good receiver but more on the 85 range than 93 range, i'd take megatron 93 over jennings 93 everyday of the year bc there no where near the same caliber of a player, megatron is leaps and bounds better than jennings, and the league showed that with there top 100!
 
# 87 BlackJackRabbit @ 08/04/11 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by at23steelers
1. AJ
2. Fitzy
3. White
4. CJ
5. Wayne
6. Jennings
7. Brandon Marshall
8. Welker
9. Steve Smith (Car)
10. Holmes
11. Lloyd
12. Wallace
13. Desean Jackson
14. Bowe
15. Vincent Jackson


Welker is a system guy; he did nothing prior to being picked up by the Patriots. Steve Smith's tank is on E, and Brandon Lloyd had one good year.
 
# 88 BlackJackRabbit @ 08/04/11 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by steinhauser34
desean jackson isnt a top 10 wr. hes fast as hell and very explosive but you put a lockdown corner on him he wont get ****. hes not a great route runner and his hands arent fantastic. hes like devin hester, incredibly valuable to the team but that doesn't make him tops at his position
That statement makes your opinion irrelevant.
 
# 89 at23steelers @ 08/04/11 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackRabbit


Welker is a system guy; he did nothing prior to being picked up by the Patriots. Steve Smith's tank is on E, and Brandon Lloyd had one good year.
That's why it's so hard to make a list like this. Steve Smith had horrendous QB play, but if he had a solid QB throwing to him, I think it would be different. What is your top 15 list then?
 
# 90 ConnSKINS26 @ 08/04/11 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by at23steelers
1. AJ
2. Fitzy
3. White
4. CJ
5. Wayne
6. Jennings
7. Brandon Marshall
8. Welker
9. Steve Smith (Car)
10. Holmes
11. Lloyd
12. Wallace
13. Desean Jackson
14. Bowe
15. Vincent Jackson
Hakeem Nicks??? Welker needs to be off this list, and Wallace needs to be higher.
 
# 91 bkrich83 @ 08/04/11 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAlter95
Calvin Johnson is quite a bit faster than larry fitzgerald, calvin ran a 4.35 forty yard dash and larry fitzgerald ran a 4.63, i know some say its overated but that much of a difference is obvious whos faster. even without that its easy to tell calvin is faster thus why hes much faster in madden
Jerry Rice ran a 4.65 I never saw anyone catch him from behind with the ball in his hand. 40 times are useless.
 
# 92 bkrich83 @ 08/04/11 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bmj2k7
Sorry i meant jordy nelson not shipley and nelson did make jennings dissapear which is why nfl players ranked 14 wide recievers ahead of jennings, let me repaet that, 14 Wrs were rated higher than jennings, bc nelson showed him up, if it wasn't for him they don't with the superbowl and jennings 2 tds dont matter, jennings is a good receiver but more on the 85 range than 93 range, i'd take megatron 93 over jennings 93 everyday of the year bc there no where near the same caliber of a player, megatron is leaps and bounds better than jennings, and the league showed that with there top 100!
Who can argue with this kind of logic. Lol.
 
# 93 bkrich83 @ 08/04/11 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackRabbit
Are any of those WRs feared more when they get the ball in space ?




LOL, no they don't



http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232

http://stats.nj.com/fb/leaders.asp?y...e=NFL&rank=232

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.a...e=NFL&rank=232

I wouldn't put too much stock into what they're saying about dropped passes. First, stats can tell many different stories depending on which ones you use and which ones you don't. If Desean's drop percentage is the league's worst, it's probably is due to the fact that he caught under 50 balls, and many of the passes thrown to him are long ( lower percentage type ) passes.

Another reason I wouldn't put too much stock into dropped passes is that Reggie Wayne ( who's is on that list) as well as one of the greatest TEs in NFL history in Tony Gonzales were among the leaders in drops last season. Bringing up Desean's drop percentage, when one of the players on the list ( that no one has disputed) is among the league leaders in drops last season, is merely a lame attempt to discredit Djax.


If you don't think that defenses roll coverage to Desean, then you're right, I don't need to say anything else.
If you want to believe Jackson is the type of player he isn't and you know how teams play coverage more power to you.
 
# 94 rice_n_gravy @ 08/04/11 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ConnSKINS26
I'm not reaching, it's a fact. He had the highest drop rate in the NFL last year, at 20%.

And if you want to see a "big play" receiver, I'll tell you again to go look up Mike Wallace. In his 2nd year he was already what DJax fans wish he could be, and pretend that he is.
omg ive read some crazy stuff on here but this tops it all

and i like how i always see D Jax isnt a great route runner why because all you see is him catching deep balls? watch an eagles game for once
 
# 95 BleacherBum2310 @ 08/04/11 07:59 PM
What's with the all Jennings hate. Granted I'll admit he's not better than Calvin, but take a look at Calvins last 3 Years and Jennings last 3 Very comparable.

Jennings is a very underrated WR IMO.
 
# 96 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 08/04/11 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BleacherBum2310
What's with the all Jennings hate. Granted I'll admit he's not better than Calvin, but take a look at Calvins last 3 Years and Jennings last 3 Very comparable.

Jennings is a very underrated WR IMO.
They both piss me off lol. One week they put up 150 yards and a couple TDs and the next they'll put up 1 catch for 20 yards. I think Calvin has the better skill set personally and that Jennings is just in the absolute perfect system to get the most out of his skillset, but obviously that's impossible to really prove.
 
# 97 The_Wise_One @ 08/04/11 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by at23steelers
1. AJ
2. Fitzy
3. White
4. CJ
5. Wayne
6. Jennings
7. Brandon Marshall
8. Welker
9. Steve Smith (Car)
10. Holmes
11. Lloyd
12. Wallace
13. Desean Jackson
14. Bowe
15. Vincent Jackson
I agree with most of that. However I would still switch White and Wayne. His days are numbered but he seems like the most complete receiver. But there is NOOOO way that Desean is worse than Wallace and only one spot higher than Bowe......in my opinion.
 
# 98 aaronrodgers012 @ 08/04/11 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bmj2k7
Sorry i meant jordy nelson not shipley and nelson did make jennings dissapear which is why nfl players ranked 14 wide recievers ahead of jennings, let me repaet that, 14 Wrs were rated higher than jennings, bc nelson showed him up, if it wasn't for him they don't with the superbowl and jennings 2 tds dont matter, jennings is a good receiver but more on the 85 range than 93 range, i'd take megatron 93 over jennings 93 everyday of the year bc there no where near the same caliber of a player, megatron is leaps and bounds better than jennings, and the league showed that with there top 100!
Really?... Do you even watch football. You do know that teams try to cover up other teams number one receivers leaving the lesser receivers more open. Im not sure if youre aware?

You do realize Jennings is in the top 5 for almost every receiving category over the past 4 years? You want to talk about Desean Jacksons big plays? Jennings had slightly less receptions in the 20 yards or more department.

Ill say it again. Calvin Johnson has every receiver trumped in the physical area of playing receiver but his routes arent all that sharp, and he drops his share of passes. Based on production, which is really the standard of Maddens rating system you have to play Jennings ahead of Calvin. Otherwise Nhamdi would be ahead of Revis but again Madden ratings are based on PRODUCTION. Same reason Brandon Marshall isnt up here.
 
# 99 ConnSKINS26 @ 08/04/11 10:12 PM
I cant believe I'm still the only one to even mention Nicks. And I hate the Giants.
 
# 100 The_Wise_One @ 08/04/11 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ConnSKINS26
I cant believe I'm still the only one to even mention Nicks. And I hate the Giants.
He was a stud last season but I still think of Steve smith as the giants #1 receiver. I'd still take nicks over bowe any day.
 


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