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NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

07:37 PM - June 8, 2011 by RynoAid

Hellisan, over at Tradition Sports Online, spent some time today documenting NCAA Football 12 team ratings and put together the info for all 120 teams, including prestige.

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# 161 schumj @ 06/09/11 07:39 PM

I should have figured Notre Dame's as I am curious maybe tomorrow. I did figure all of the 6 stars to see what their scores would be.

Alabama - 245 points

LSU - 323 points

Auburn - 214 points

Oregon - 205 points

USC - 467 points (taking away NC's and 1 heisman, add 58 points if you choose not to take them away)

Oklahoma - 489 points

Ohio St - 528 points

Penn St 159 points (Wow how are they a 6*??????) By far the lowest so far and only 53 points better than K-State. Joe Pa can sure get some love.

I didn't get to Florida or Texas yet but sure they will fit in. Interesting that the only one that doesn't belong in that group just going off those points is Penn St. Oregon is next lowest but close to both Auburn and Alabama

I will probably start a new thread and continue looking at all of the BCS schools. Interested who is better than Oregon? Kind of changed my perception of them a little more. I know they have been good but didn't expect they would be that close to some of the big boys.

# 162 Cane305 @ 06/09/11 07:40 PM

What EA needs to do is create a "tradition" rating which would be seperate from the prestige star rating therefore teams that have great tradition such as the "michigans, notre dames,miami's" that have struggled in the past years would not be rated as high in current prestige however there tradition rating would remain among the best....IMO of course...

# 163 STLcardz-NDirish @ 06/09/11 07:43 PM

PRESTIGE: Respect and admiration felt for someone or something on the basis of their achievements or quality.(Definition from google)

Despite what anybody says, Notre Dame deserves a 6* prestige rating based on that definition of Prestige.

No other program in the country can say all these things about their program-
1: ND has the largest fan base in the nation, 2: ND continues to roll in top recruiting classes, 3: ND has the most national tittles & hisemen winners, 4: ND has thier own TV network, 5: ND have tons and tons and tons of tradition, 6: ND has never violated major ncaa rules, 7: ND has never played an FCS (aka D-1AA) team, 8: ND graduates over 95% of their players.

ND is in fact a very prestigious school.

# 164 Cane305 @ 06/09/11 07:46 PM

Im not saying Notre Dame isnt, but in recent years it hasnt done much with any of the top recruiting classes and hasnt won National Champ since 1991.

# 165 K0ZZ @ 06/09/11 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cane305


	Im not saying Notre Dame isnt, but in recent years it hasnt done much with any of the top recruiting classes and hasnt won National Champ since 1991.

No independent should even be allowed to compete for a BCS bowl.

# 166 The JareBear @ 06/09/11 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by STLcardz-NDirish


	PRESTIGE: Respect and admiration felt for someone or something on the basis of their achievements or quality.(Definition from google) Despite what anybody says, Notre Dame deserves a 6* prestige rating based on that definition of Prestige. No other program in the country can say all these things about their program- 1: ND has the largest fan base in the nation, 2: ND continues to roll in top recruiting classes, 3: ND has the most national tittles & hisemen winners, 4: ND has thier own TV network, 5: ND have tons and tons and tons of tradition, 6: ND has never violated major ncaa rules, 7: ND has never played an FCS (aka D-1AA) team, 8: ND graduates over 95% of their players. ND is in fact a very prestigious school.

Dude....

I GET IT!

EA calls it a prestige rating but it REALLY isn't about prestige, it is about wins and losses in the game!!!! If it WAS really about prestige Notre Dame would never ever lose a star in the game.

# 167 Cane305 @ 06/09/11 07:53 PM

Only argument to that would be ND does play a pretty solid schedule year in and year out...

# 168 The JareBear @ 06/09/11 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NDFan1029


	Penn State is a 6-star, and while they've had some good seasons, they haven't won a BCS bowl, either.

I was one of the first ones to say PSU was overrated in this game.

# 169 K0ZZ @ 06/09/11 07:56 PM

Personally I do feel TCU and Boise do deserve their 5*'s, they almost singlehandedly put Mid Major programs on the map. That and they have been consistent, finishing towards the top of the NCAA the past several seasons even beating top AQ teams to get there. I could understand if they were one and dones but they managed to be consistent.

I do feel NIU deserves a 3*, they have been pretty stable under Coach Kill and they had a great season last year, just feels like EA wants to keep the MAC towards the bottom of the NCAA.

I do agree with needing a tradition rating, that way they can rank old school programs lower without annoying people.

ND being a 5* would mean they are still nationally relevant, but until they do something with their influx of talent they really aren't relevant. Same with Michigan which has been struggling. (No Texas shouldn't be dropped. Longhorn support hasn't dipped at all from one bad season).

Duke should be the lowest imo, they haven't even had a winning season since before 2002. They are pretty much the meaning of irrelevant. At least there is a slight bit of hope every year that Wazzou will do something.

# 170 Fiasco West @ 06/09/11 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredlib


	Dude.... I GET IT! EA calls it a prestige rating but it REALLY isn't about prestige, it is about wins and losses in the game!!!! If it WAS really about prestige Notre Dame would never ever lose a star in the game.

Yeah this.

Besides, I doubt the Devs sit around and say "Notre Dame is not a 6* Program, put them in there with Michigan."

I'm guessing they just put the schools information into the game and let the game itself tell them who is a 5 or 6 star program. Because Stars have to be given and taken away in game also.

# 171 NDFan1029 @ 06/09/11 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredlib


	I was one of the first ones to say PSU was overrated in this game.

Yeah, I didn't catch your follow-up post. These threads are like walls of text sometimes, and I replied right before I saw it.

# 172 The JareBear @ 06/09/11 08:00 PM

Last year it was explained to me simply:

To go from five-stars to six stars you have to finish in the top 5 or make it to the BCS title game. To lose a star, go from six star to five star, you have to finish out of the top 15.

That was the explanation given to how the game decides these things. Why Texas didn't drop, I don't know, that's EA's prerogative

# 173 K0ZZ @ 06/09/11 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cane305


	Only argument to that would be ND does play a pretty solid schedule year in and year out...

They play maybe one or two nationally ranked teams a year than fill their schedule with mid level talent at best.

USC and Mich/MSU (either or) will typically be their ranked opponents, than after facing middle level talent they fill their last 4 games with cupcakes (sometimes backfires)

Their schedule isn't on par with a Big Ten(12)/SEC schedule. Only AQ conference they could be scheduling better than is the Big East, than again that's not difficult.

# 174 STLcardz-NDirish @ 06/09/11 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredlib


	Dude.... I GET IT! EA calls it a prestige rating but it REALLY isn't about prestige, it is about wins and losses in the game!!!! If it WAS really about prestige Notre Dame would never ever lose a star in the game.

I'm still confused though becuse if it is about Wins and Losses, then why did ND go down a prestige for winning more games than the previous season. Riddle me that one EA

# 175 K0ZZ @ 06/09/11 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jaredlib


	Last year it was explained to me simply: To go from five-stars to six stars you have to finish in the top 5 or make it to the BCS title game. To lose a star, go from six star to five star, you have to finish out of the top 15. That was the explanation given to how the game decides these things. Why Texas didn't drop, I don't know, that's EA's prerogative

EA doesn't follow their own logic out of game. Texas is a nationally known program and it is expected they will bounce back, but if in game they are continually sucking and they never dropped people would complain so they had to program it into the game like that, otherwise the top teams would never fall.

# 176 K0ZZ @ 06/09/11 08:14 PM

Duke at best should be a C, how they are a B- I'll never know.

Their passing attack is competent, but their run game is a joke, one of the worst in the NCAA. Offensively, a C+ would be best. Defensively, a D or D+ is what should be given. They averaged over 35 PPG allowed to opposing offenses. Their rating is inflated like hell. (109 in the nation) They even gave up 48 to an inept Virginia squad.

# 177 MrRudy @ 06/09/11 08:15 PM

From what I can see from these ratings, what we have gotten is a little more mediocrity when it comes to prestige:
A. 85 of 120 are rated 3* or lower
B. 31 3* programs compared to 39 in NCAA11
C. Meanwhile, the number of 2* has gone up to 30 from 26
D. And for those of you who like those 1* projects have 3 more options:
New Mexico, Memphis, & Washington State

Also, welcome to 6 Star Glory (At least temporarily): Oregon & Auburn

# 178 Cane305 @ 06/09/11 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chicagopax


	They play maybe one or two nationally ranked teams a year than fill their schedule with mid level talent at best. USC and Mich/MSU (either or) will typically be their ranked opponents, than after facing middle level talent they fill their last 4 games with cupcakes (sometimes backfires) Their schedule isn't on par with a Big Ten(12)/SEC schedule. Only AQ conference they could be scheduling better than is the Big East, than again that's not difficult.

I agree there is mediocre teams that play year in year out, but usually michigan is solid team, usc, mich state, and stanford as of late....which is more than most teams who schedule 1-2 out of conference games. I thought ND should have joined the Big Ten, but like you said they probably didnt want the solid competition...

# 179 dan_457 @ 06/09/11 08:23 PM

The Dev's don't even follow their own rules here. It's painfully obvious that the prestige system needs to be scrapped, It has way too much of an impact considering there's no reasonable rhyme or reason to it.

# 180 The JareBear @ 06/09/11 08:23 PM

By the way, I LIKE Notre Dame. I like Brian Kelly a LOT.

I just feel like it is a justified drop of a star. But, regardless, most gamers will have zero trouble getting the star back year one, especially with Floyd going Randy Moss on people all day

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