07:37 PM - June 8, 2011 by RynoAid
Hellisan, over at Tradition Sports Online, spent some time today documenting NCAA Football 12 team ratings and put together the info for all 120 teams, including prestige.
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07:37 PM - June 8, 2011 by RynoAidHellisan, over at Tradition Sports Online, spent some time today documenting NCAA Football 12 team ratings and put together the info for all 120 teams, including prestige.
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# 141
Wildcats302 @ 06/09/11 05:19 PM
Penn State being a 6 is a joke. I see that one poster saying drop Miami to a 4 from a 5...really? Penn State needs to be a 3 then sine they have 2 national titles ever, and Miami has 5...4 of them since Penn State's last title, coincidentally against Miami.
I think OSU should be a 6, Alabama a 6, FL a 6, LSU a 6, Oklahoma a 6, Texas a 6, and honestly beyond that, that's about it, unless you wanna put USC in the mix despite two straight sub par years and more to come with probation taking its toll on them no doubt.
The 6 teams I have as 6 stars has to do with what they have done in the past 5-10 years, as well as historically. I get what the Notre Dame fans are saying, but 23 years with no end in sight on winning a national title has to take a toll at some point. Same thing with Michigan, the last few years have been awful. If both of those were 6's, along with say a Nebraska, would I absolutely pitch a fit? No, but in my opinion they should not be until they have some 2-3 years of consistent BCS bowls and competing for a title, because the historical aspect is certainly there for all of them.
I think OSU should be a 6, Alabama a 6, FL a 6, LSU a 6, Oklahoma a 6, Texas a 6, and honestly beyond that, that's about it, unless you wanna put USC in the mix despite two straight sub par years and more to come with probation taking its toll on them no doubt.
The 6 teams I have as 6 stars has to do with what they have done in the past 5-10 years, as well as historically. I get what the Notre Dame fans are saying, but 23 years with no end in sight on winning a national title has to take a toll at some point. Same thing with Michigan, the last few years have been awful. If both of those were 6's, along with say a Nebraska, would I absolutely pitch a fit? No, but in my opinion they should not be until they have some 2-3 years of consistent BCS bowls and competing for a title, because the historical aspect is certainly there for all of them.
I have been an avid college football fan since 1993. Back then you could only watch like two games plus Notre Dame every Saturday. Sometimes you would get another couple if they were big games. So needless to say this I love history and college football. So I dove into this more. I decided to do a little more research just on these two teams for now.
I used ESPN's formula for figuring prestige score and calculated two different periods. I did the last 20 years (1991-present) and just the BCS era (1998-Present).
The formula uses NC's, Major Bowls, Major Bowl wins, Top 5 ranking 6-10 ranking, 11-25 ranking, Heisman winners, conference titles, Bowl games, bowl victories, 10 Win seasons, Weeks as #1 or #2, Wins over #1 teams, All Americans, 1st round draft picks and losing seasons.
Here is my findings:
LAST 20 YEARS
Missouri's score of 66.
Tennessee 323.
I don't think anyone would be surprised as Missouri has only seen recent success and Tennesse was very good in the 90's.
Now on to the BCS era.
Missouri's score 71 if you are wondering how it got better with less stats it is the losing seasons. You get -2 points for losing seasons and they have had less. So 71!
Tennessee's score 202
If you are wondering you only get 25 points for a NC so that is not the one thing pushing them over.
I used ESPN's formula for figuring prestige score and calculated two different periods. I did the last 20 years (1991-present) and just the BCS era (1998-Present).
The formula uses NC's, Major Bowls, Major Bowl wins, Top 5 ranking 6-10 ranking, 11-25 ranking, Heisman winners, conference titles, Bowl games, bowl victories, 10 Win seasons, Weeks as #1 or #2, Wins over #1 teams, All Americans, 1st round draft picks and losing seasons.
Here is my findings:
LAST 20 YEARS
Missouri's score of 66.
Tennessee 323.
I don't think anyone would be surprised as Missouri has only seen recent success and Tennesse was very good in the 90's.
Now on to the BCS era.
Missouri's score 71 if you are wondering how it got better with less stats it is the losing seasons. You get -2 points for losing seasons and they have had less. So 71!
Tennessee's score 202
If you are wondering you only get 25 points for a NC so that is not the one thing pushing them over.
# 143
Wildcats302 @ 06/09/11 05:46 PM
Ok I'll get in on the UT vs. Missouri thing.
UT owns Missouri in every aspect and this coming from a Kentucky fan that has every reason to loath UT football(trust me I do lol), but I have to give them their props on beating us all the time and having a good historical basis to work with. I will say this though, 1 national title in the past 53 years in 1998-1999 season, and that's it. I can see why they would be a 4-5 star team, and with them expected to have another 6-6 type season this year, I can see why EA put them at 4 star. When all you do now in the SEC is beat Vandy and UK in football, you can expect a drop off in prestige IMO.
UT owns Missouri in every aspect and this coming from a Kentucky fan that has every reason to loath UT football(trust me I do lol), but I have to give them their props on beating us all the time and having a good historical basis to work with. I will say this though, 1 national title in the past 53 years in 1998-1999 season, and that's it. I can see why they would be a 4-5 star team, and with them expected to have another 6-6 type season this year, I can see why EA put them at 4 star. When all you do now in the SEC is beat Vandy and UK in football, you can expect a drop off in prestige IMO.
# 144
The JareBear @ 06/09/11 05:50 PM
SO it should take 20 years of mediocrity before a team finally loses a sixth star in this game?
Sorry if this has already been mentioned but does anyone else think it's weird that way more teams have a higher off grade than def, vs the other way around.
Just skimming through the list real quick (I may have missed a team or two) I only saw: Bama, LSU, UConn, Virginia, Purdue, Marshall, Mid Tenn State, Idaho, UTEP,UAB. That's 10 teams. Meanwhile 10 of the top 12 teams have better offenses than defenses.
I first noticed this last year looks like it's the same again.
Just skimming through the list real quick (I may have missed a team or two) I only saw: Bama, LSU, UConn, Virginia, Purdue, Marshall, Mid Tenn State, Idaho, UTEP,UAB. That's 10 teams. Meanwhile 10 of the top 12 teams have better offenses than defenses.
I first noticed this last year looks like it's the same again.
Also just let people edit school prestige (and all the school's recruiting grades) so we can skip past these arguments about who is a 4 vs 5 star.
# 147
The JareBear @ 06/09/11 06:00 PM
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I think the problem with the arguments trying to use real life history and to fuel the logic behind the ratings. In the game, if Florida goes 6-6, they drop a star no matter what. Same for Texas, same for anybody. Going off EA's rules for dropping or gaining a star in the offseason of a dynasty it makes sense that Dame dropped one. That is all I am saying.
Why Texas didn't drop one as well, I have no idea.
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# 149
Orangemann @ 06/09/11 06:11 PM
Curious to how VT is an A- when they have no ratings above a B+ in terms of offense, defense, and special teams.
How is their special teams a B- anyways? We have two of the best return me in the whole country on there...whatever.
How is their special teams a B- anyways? We have two of the best return me in the whole country on there...whatever.
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# 151
The JareBear @ 06/09/11 06:14 PM
Schum I agree that the system is flawed. But it is their system and going off of it some of the rating changes make sense (Notre Dame) and some don't.
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# 154
TheBrothers24 @ 06/09/11 06:26 PM
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# 155
TheBauerHour @ 06/09/11 06:46 PM
Oregon is 6 stars and Nebraska, Florida State and Michigan are 5 stars.
Huh?
Huh?
Notre Dame was better last year than they have been in a while, yet they dropped a star this year instead of the years prior. That's strange.
# 157
kingkilla56 @ 06/09/11 07:15 PM
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# 160
STLcardz-NDirish @ 06/09/11 07:26 PM
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