09:21 AM - February 8, 2011 by DaveDQ
Available today for Xbox 360 owners, a tuner set for the Fight Night Champion demo. Read on, to see all the details.
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Fight Night Champion News Post
09:21 AM - February 8, 2011 by DaveDQAvailable today for Xbox 360 owners, a tuner set for the Fight Night Champion demo. Read on, to see all the details.
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So far I like the game tuner a lot better then I did then when it 1st came out. I still throw too many punches but the game itself seems to flow better. I just got my 1st decision win against Cotto this morning. He's beat me the last 2 fights except for a draw.
Where I'm seeing the difference is in the counter punch and its strength. I'm very fearful of getting countered, so my punches are at an all time low, and I had to discipline myself to throw less than 70 a round. I get caught up in the slugfest.
But I see the reward here. If you counter at the right time, the fight could be over and I really like that.
But I see the reward here. If you counter at the right time, the fight could be over and I really like that.
I don't know. I fell into a trap with one guy who had Ali. He was continually throwing jabs, and missing most of them, but I was unable to catch him. He ended the night 172-403 (42%), no power modifiers thrown, NO COUNTERS landed and FRESH AS A DAISY.
I was 124-207 (59%), 28-53 power modified, and 7-7 on counters.
I was surprised he landed 42% of his punches. It seemed like it should have been lower.
I was 124-207 (59%), 28-53 power modified, and 7-7 on counters.
I was surprised he landed 42% of his punches. It seemed like it should have been lower.
The scoring is still sometimes absurd. 2 of the 3 judges gave my opponent (Ali) the second round despite 48-90 (53%) to 35-106 (33%), Powers-2-2, counters 2-0.
Scoring is what scares me to buy this game... I will say after the tuner update I am more wanting to buy the game. On first impression, I was going to pass till a price drop, but this game became better imo after tuning
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Panicshade @ 02/09/11 11:04 AM
This may be a stupid question but here goes...
Does the new tuner set work offline against the AI? I haven't played any of the EA Sports games that have had the tuner sets available so I am lost on the whole thing.
Does the new tuner set work offline against the AI? I haven't played any of the EA Sports games that have had the tuner sets available so I am lost on the whole thing.
After around 15 fights testing online last night. I will say this.
1) Stamina is much better and will really be noticeable come the 10th round. Jaybee, don't be concerned with perm stamina that much. There is 2 reasons I say this. A) People could throw 500 punches in 3 rounds, does not mean they will survive much deeper than 6 rounds when they are exhausted. B) As they tire more in the later rounds, punch accuracy goes down so more stamina loss snow ball effect.
2) Punch Power is raised and I like it. You no longer can run into a exchange of a slug fest and expect to walk out without a KO or getting KO'd. So the fear of getting hit is there like it should be. This issue with it being high right now is that punch accuracy is still to high.
3) Punch accuracy seriously needs to be lowered drastically. This would make the exchanges look more like whats on TV. Would also knock down the amount of big shots being landed. Would also knock down stamina more, so punch exchanges would need to be more thought out. I think the biggest issue at the moment for the game is punch accuracy. It along being adjusted would help many areas of the game from stamina, connect percentages, punches thrown per round, all the way down to Power shots landing and feeling good.
1) Stamina is much better and will really be noticeable come the 10th round. Jaybee, don't be concerned with perm stamina that much. There is 2 reasons I say this. A) People could throw 500 punches in 3 rounds, does not mean they will survive much deeper than 6 rounds when they are exhausted. B) As they tire more in the later rounds, punch accuracy goes down so more stamina loss snow ball effect.
2) Punch Power is raised and I like it. You no longer can run into a exchange of a slug fest and expect to walk out without a KO or getting KO'd. So the fear of getting hit is there like it should be. This issue with it being high right now is that punch accuracy is still to high.
3) Punch accuracy seriously needs to be lowered drastically. This would make the exchanges look more like whats on TV. Would also knock down the amount of big shots being landed. Would also knock down stamina more, so punch exchanges would need to be more thought out. I think the biggest issue at the moment for the game is punch accuracy. It along being adjusted would help many areas of the game from stamina, connect percentages, punches thrown per round, all the way down to Power shots landing and feeling good.
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fistofrage @ 02/09/11 11:30 AM
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I would much rather have variety, even if its wrong sometimes than to have an exact formula for scoring rounds like punches landed.
I am sure what you are describing is probably a programming error by EA, but I would love to see a pool of 20 to 50 judges that scored the fight on different criteria.
Honestly, I could see the judges giving the round to ALI if he seemed more active or closed out the round with a flurry. Sometimes its hard to tell if punches are landing. I am almost always suprised when I see the Compubox numbers.
I think one problem with punch accuracy which EA encounters is that if you make punch accuracy "random" then you will have consumers bitching that "they aren't even playing the game, it's just decided by EA's dice rolls" because they are pretty much doing that already now with the 1 punch KOs/KDs...
Whatever happened to Being able to "train" your guy before multiplayer matches. Locally I believe on FN2(?) you could "train/focus" on a certain area and your guy would get boosts/subtractions to certain attributes based on what you chose. Why hasn't this remained in fight night I thought it was pretty cool and realistic?
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Well done to EA to addressing issues to a demo. I haven't tried it out yet but the stamina was completely wrong in the original demo so I will be interested to see how it works with the tuner set.
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Lakers 24 7 @ 02/09/11 05:54 PM
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There's not many fighters who let loose 100+ punches in a round, even in the opening stages so that still needs to be addressed.
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I even circle the ring a lot, both on and off line. I fought a guy today who beat me in the first fight and we happened to meet up again. I was able to make adjustments to his style and I beat him the second fight. He sent me a message that I was the most boring fighter ever. I know the game isn't perfect, but what makes it more flawed is the style these guys choose to fight. What this demo does right is make users pay for fighting like it's not a sport.
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Lakers 24 7 @ 02/09/11 06:44 PM
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Knighttime24 @ 02/09/11 11:51 PM
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I love the new tuner set feels much more natural, jabs are better to throw. To the people who say the jab gets them countered, learn when to throw a jab ... jabs are to lead into not to mix it up.
I KNOW it's possible to throw a ton of punches in this game but during a whole 3 round fight I never get over about 80 punches (many are jabs now) now.. I fight as a jabber/counter puncher until I get the guy weaker and slower.. and then get more aggressive.
The judging seems better maybe because I can use the jab MUCH easier now? Before I felt I won matches and got robbed because I landed the harder cleaner shots... but you can land 2 to 1 in power shots but if a guy peppers you with a jab for 3 rounds ... I give it to the jabber who jabs and counters than a person who just throws like a nut.
I think we need to remember this is ONLY 3 rounds, the people who are trying to throw as many punches as possible... won't last 5-6 rounds in this game when it goes retail. The people fighting it as if it were a 10-12 round fight will enjoy this much more.
Can't blame people though odd decision to do 3 rounds... it tends to make people think arcade but in reality it's NOT just there is only 3 rounds and no repercussions because well there's only 3 rounds! Just fire away ... !!!
I played last night and had great matches... but one guy somehow had a way to cheese to the body ... there was NO way to block it... don't know what that was but he was the only one who did that EA may want to look into that.
My nephew said there was another tuner pack available (not sure since I wasn't there for the second one) he told me it asked him to press Y and there was a new tuner pack anyone can confirm there was a SECOND tuner pack released?
I KNOW it's possible to throw a ton of punches in this game but during a whole 3 round fight I never get over about 80 punches (many are jabs now) now.. I fight as a jabber/counter puncher until I get the guy weaker and slower.. and then get more aggressive.
The judging seems better maybe because I can use the jab MUCH easier now? Before I felt I won matches and got robbed because I landed the harder cleaner shots... but you can land 2 to 1 in power shots but if a guy peppers you with a jab for 3 rounds ... I give it to the jabber who jabs and counters than a person who just throws like a nut.
I think we need to remember this is ONLY 3 rounds, the people who are trying to throw as many punches as possible... won't last 5-6 rounds in this game when it goes retail. The people fighting it as if it were a 10-12 round fight will enjoy this much more.
Can't blame people though odd decision to do 3 rounds... it tends to make people think arcade but in reality it's NOT just there is only 3 rounds and no repercussions because well there's only 3 rounds! Just fire away ... !!!
I played last night and had great matches... but one guy somehow had a way to cheese to the body ... there was NO way to block it... don't know what that was but he was the only one who did that EA may want to look into that.
My nephew said there was another tuner pack available (not sure since I wasn't there for the second one) he told me it asked him to press Y and there was a new tuner pack anyone can confirm there was a SECOND tuner pack released?
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phillyfan23 @ 02/10/11 09:02 PM
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