Madden NFL 11 News Post

FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

02:46 PM - January 24, 2011 by RaychelSnr

I recentely sat down for a talk with FBGRatings.com's Dan Berens to discuss his site's vision and what's going on over there today. The site is currently working on getting accurate ratings for every player using real hard data converted into the Madden ratings universe. Dan claims that when these numbers are plugged into the game, it plays much better and much closer to real life. Check out the interview below and also check out Dan's website to see what he's got going on!

Interview with Berens on the OS Radio Show on BlogTalkRadio

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# 501 DCEBB2001 @ 08/30/11 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nukleopatra


	What formula did you use when judging Mark Sanchez's 54% completion percentage?

Every player's ratings is based on REAL NFL scouting data, not stats. I hate stats because stats are representative of what individual players do together, not what the actually skills of an individual player are.

# 502 DCEBB2001 @ 08/30/11 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by garret2


	cool, well thanks for all of your hard work and good luck getting the job with EA. and thank you for making madden a far more enjoyable experience, im sure many others would agree.

No problem. The game drops tonight so tomorrow I'm going to rent it to get the formulas right to calculate the OVR ratings. Then I am going to upload the NEW OVR ratings for the start of the regular season and calculate them accordingly. Hoping for week 1 or 2, no later than week 8.

# 503 garret2 @ 08/30/11 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	No problem. The game drops tonight so tomorrow I'm going to rent it to get the formulas right to calculate the OVR ratings. Then I am going to upload the NEW OVR ratings for the start of the regular season and calculate them accordingly. Hoping for week 1 or 2, no later than week 8.

oh wow, so all of the positional ratings have to be rescaled to the new game? im glad you're willing to put so much time into this.

# 504 DCEBB2001 @ 08/30/11 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by garret2


	oh wow, so all of the positional ratings have to be rescaled to the new game? im glad you're willing to put so much time into this.

Yup. They re-did the calculations this year. If they hadn't, I would have had all this done by now.

# 505 DCEBB2001 @ 08/30/11 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nukleopatra


	I've always been under the impression that stats were a representative of how that player is performing at the current level, but that can't be, because if we go by actual stats, Mark Sanchez's 54% completion %, and lifetime QB rating, up to this point, is lower than Tim Couch.... and well, since the Jets carried him the previous two seasons, he can't suck THAT bad, right? But since you use REAL NFL scouting data, if possible, can you link me to the scouting data that informed you that Greg McElroy has the arm strength to warrant a 89 throw power rating... and T.J Yates got a whopping 90 throw power rating (1 below Jake Locker..) The biggest knock on both guys, was their below average arm strength. But I'm glad they won't be having that issue in Madden 12. I just wish you were around doing ratings when my boy Ken Dorsey got drafted, I could have used that 90 throw power rating in that years Madden. Good luck.

I cannot link you to that data as it is not available online. I get all my source material from PRIMARY sources, not secondary sources.

# 506 garret2 @ 08/31/11 12:29 AM

how do you go about rating the physical attributes of a player like daquan bowers who was hurt during his pro day and combine?

# 507 DCEBB2001 @ 08/31/11 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by garret2


	how do you go about rating the physical attributes of a player like daquan bowers who was hurt during his pro day and combine?

Scouting data, campus times, in game 40s, etc.

# 508 DCEBB2001 @ 08/31/11 12:36 AM

Upon renting the game I have found that not only did EA change the calculations for calculating the OVR ratings, but they also changed the attribute scale from 12 to 99 to 0 to 99. That means that FBG will have to re-calibrate all of the hard data, scouting data, etc. In essence, FBG will be shut down for Madden 12. All of the data points for every single attribute will have to be redone and re-calculated. Just when you think you have everything down, EA defies logic and changes things up on me. Not cool. Sorry to those who have been following the site, but there is nothing I can do at this point. Look for FBG ratings to be back in 2013.

# 509 TheGame8544 @ 08/31/11 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	Upon renting the game I have found that not only did EA change the calculations for calculating the OVR ratings, but they also changed the attribute scale from 12 to 99 to 0 to 99. That means that FBG will have to re-calibrate all of the hard data, scouting data, etc. In essence, FBG will be shut down for Madden 12. All of the data points for every single attribute will have to be redone and re-calculated. Just when you think you have everything down, EA defies logic and changes things up on me. Not cool. Sorry to those who have been following the site, but there is nothing I can do at this point. Look for FBG ratings to be back in 2013.

Please don't take down the site or the ratings. I still find the individual ratings to be extremely useful.

# 510 garret2 @ 08/31/11 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGame8544


	Please don't take down the site or the ratings. I still find the individual ratings to be extremely useful.

i agree, we can still enter in the ratings player by player and it be much better than nothing. at least we would have the option.

# 511 DCEBB2001 @ 08/31/11 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGame8544


	Please don't take down the site or the ratings. I still find the individual ratings to be extremely useful.

Well, now all those numbers for the attributes are out of whack compared to the scale that EA has given us. So, now those numbers are not evenly distributed. I have to shut it down in order to get the numbers right and then re-post them all.

# 512 jorge380 @ 08/31/11 01:39 AM

Oh man dont shut the site down.I was going to update a roster for an old Madden game and your site was going to help me do it.

# 513 DCEBB2001 @ 08/31/11 01:45 AM

OK disaster averted. Just found that I DID calculate all the ratings to 0 last year. Basically, I am going to say that 0-12 is negligible. How often do you have a rating that low anyway? So I guess I will continue as is with the scales I currently have. Awaiting my new scouting data so I should have updated ratings by the time I get all the calculations figured out.

# 514 garret2 @ 08/31/11 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	Well, now all those numbers for the attributes are out of whack compared to the scale that EA has given us. So, now those numbers are not evenly distributed. I have to shut it down in order to get the numbers right and then re-post them all.

but those numbers wont be posted until madden 13? can we have a week or two to copy the attributes into M12 for those of us that may want to do it?

# 515 garret2 @ 08/31/11 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by garret2


	but those numbers wont be posted until madden 13? can we have a week or two to copy the attributes into M12 for those of us that may want to do it?

nevermind. thats great news!

# 516 DCEBB2001 @ 08/31/11 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by garret2


	nevermind. thats great news!

Yeah good thing I planned ahead for that last year. The distribution will be a little off, but if I keep the same scale it won't matter.

# 517 garret2 @ 08/31/11 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	Yeah good thing I planned ahead for that last year. The distribution will be a little off, but if I keep the same scale it won't matter.

amazing, im so glad that worked out. so same thing as before, ratings should be all finished somewhere between weeks 1-8?

# 518 MattUM2 @ 08/31/11 02:49 AM

I put in some players ratings in the game.

Vick comes out to be a 90 just like the website says.

# 519 MattUM2 @ 08/31/11 07:11 PM

any update.

# 520 DCEBB2001 @ 08/31/11 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MattUM2


	any update.

LOL yeah been sick all day! Fever over 100! No site updates yet. I have the game, just waiting to get better to start calculating OVR ratings.

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