01:13 PM - September 5, 2010 by Steve_OS
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NBA Elite 11 News Post
01:13 PM - September 5, 2010 by Steve_OS
NBA Elite 11 Videos
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# 61
PH1LLYSFINEST13 @ 09/05/10 03:06 PM
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# 62
Greene_Flash03 @ 09/05/10 03:08 PM
Regarding the video now.
I like the video, however too many dunks, and where are sig dribbles? Wade and james have the same set?
I like the video, however too many dunks, and where are sig dribbles? Wade and james have the same set?
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i c u cant stop me @ 09/05/10 03:09 PM
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dont remind me....lol
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# 65
scottyp180 @ 09/05/10 03:17 PM
This video, along with the clippers hornets one, are definitely an encouraging sign; they actually got me excited to try the demo. The game looks fun, but as far as a basketball sim it still has a ways to go.
Some notes off the top of my head:
-Physics engine looks very inconsistent. At times the interaction between players looks fluid and realistic, but other times, wades dunk around 1:02, a player will get dunked on as if he wasn't even there.
-The player movement needs some work, players are a little to stiff in there movements, not to mention the sliding/skating.
-Can someone tell me how that vince carter hopstep isn't a travel? I don't know the rules for hopsteps but that looked more like a jump than a hop to me. I do have to say that his pump fake right before the hopstep looked really good.
-Inside bounce passes get through way to easy. Reminds me of the lead pass problem of 2k.
-I really like the crowd noise and playoff atmosphere. That plus the addition of the ESPN crew really makes it feel like a playoff game on TV.
-A lot of people saying that this game is too fast paced and arcadey, which i agree, but sliders could correct this problem.
I think EA put themselves in a tough position with all their hype and talk about the physics engine. People were expecting this game to be leaps and bounds better than Live 10 and it's arguable which direction Elite 11 is going. This being the first year of a rebuilding process I think people were expecting a little to much out of EA. In a couple years the changes that have been put in place could result in a great game but right now EA still has some kinks to work out.
With all the patches and updates developers can do to games this could be a very different game in a couple of months. I remember reading a preview for this game in June and the article mentioned how quickly some problems could be fixed with the new engine. Perhaps there could be a Backbreaker 'Great House' like patch that can fix many issues and also add something to the game.
Some notes off the top of my head:
-Physics engine looks very inconsistent. At times the interaction between players looks fluid and realistic, but other times, wades dunk around 1:02, a player will get dunked on as if he wasn't even there.
-The player movement needs some work, players are a little to stiff in there movements, not to mention the sliding/skating.
-Can someone tell me how that vince carter hopstep isn't a travel? I don't know the rules for hopsteps but that looked more like a jump than a hop to me. I do have to say that his pump fake right before the hopstep looked really good.
-Inside bounce passes get through way to easy. Reminds me of the lead pass problem of 2k.
-I really like the crowd noise and playoff atmosphere. That plus the addition of the ESPN crew really makes it feel like a playoff game on TV.
-A lot of people saying that this game is too fast paced and arcadey, which i agree, but sliders could correct this problem.
I think EA put themselves in a tough position with all their hype and talk about the physics engine. People were expecting this game to be leaps and bounds better than Live 10 and it's arguable which direction Elite 11 is going. This being the first year of a rebuilding process I think people were expecting a little to much out of EA. In a couple years the changes that have been put in place could result in a great game but right now EA still has some kinks to work out.
With all the patches and updates developers can do to games this could be a very different game in a couple of months. I remember reading a preview for this game in June and the article mentioned how quickly some problems could be fixed with the new engine. Perhaps there could be a Backbreaker 'Great House' like patch that can fix many issues and also add something to the game.
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Based on most of your previous statements the game is flawless. You seem to always an excuse to what others think are flaws in the game. And I'm not talking about only the 2k fanboys, even the EA fans that point out the flaws.
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And the thing that gets me is they give us global sliders to edit them too so its not like that whole process is one by one thing. You could literally edit a whole teams vertical down.
I mean if they can do it why can't the guys at EA do the same smh...
Ignoring the eurostep in place (an issue I thought was supposed to be addressed), I did like how Dwight's hand tracked the ball for the challenge at 3:42.
Jano, yeah I remember the threads for 09 & 10. This was even mentioned a couple months ago but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
Jano, yeah I remember the threads for 09 & 10. This was even mentioned a couple months ago but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
# 71
sportyguyfl31 @ 09/05/10 03:29 PM
Can something be done about these blatant new account trolls?
Any, I LOVE the collision detection.
I loved Carter's deflection of the ball on a I think the opening sequence for the heat..aroudn the 20 second mark.
The hop step effectivenes needs to be patched. Right now.
The videos are getting better and better, just as I hoped.
I remember the 1st videos of ncaa that came out. BLAH!
Any, I LOVE the collision detection.
I loved Carter's deflection of the ball on a I think the opening sequence for the heat..aroudn the 20 second mark.
The hop step effectivenes needs to be patched. Right now.
The videos are getting better and better, just as I hoped.
I remember the 1st videos of ncaa that came out. BLAH!
So much of the ballhandler movement looks wrong because they are breaking the rules. Look at Carter from 3:50. He catches the ball moving left, establishing his right foot as the pivot, yet starts moving right off of his left foot. Of course this is followed immediately by more sliding that looks like a carry. This is the stuff bums in your Sunday run do, not NBA players. Even when they do, the difference is that they make it look smooth. Refs practically call the games by whistling on things that look unnatural.
This stuff has been in basketball games forever, but it hasn't looked as blatantly rough in a couple years.
This stuff has been in basketball games forever, but it hasn't looked as blatantly rough in a couple years.
Well we got a fastbreak and dunk vid today, now I want to see some CPU vs CPU gameplay. See how the AI looks because last year's wasn't all that great especially after you played the game for a while.
Also want another vid on in-air collisions even though this one had some, I'm hoping there's a lot more to it because it doesn't look like its going to stop dunks at all. Actually it doesn't even have to be in-air just give me one that shows off the help D in the game.
And if there's some videos highlighting the post game that would be great too. I really do hope the higher difficulties are like Live 10 in terms of D because that game would really punish you when you tried to force your way inside every play.
Also want another vid on in-air collisions even though this one had some, I'm hoping there's a lot more to it because it doesn't look like its going to stop dunks at all. Actually it doesn't even have to be in-air just give me one that shows off the help D in the game.
And if there's some videos highlighting the post game that would be great too. I really do hope the higher difficulties are like Live 10 in terms of D because that game would really punish you when you tried to force your way inside every play.
That initial Wade dunk over Howard is a little concerning. It was two-handed and he pushed Howard back like he was a guard. I'm glad there wasn't a collision suction animation but a foul should have been called and Wade should have been knocked off balance a little or Howard should have fallen. And Wade seemed like he warped a little.
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I am not an online player, but in those online matchups, are you able to lower sliders (vert, dunk, etc)?
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That collision at 4:00 when Carter tried to dunk has to be a foul. The only play there for the defense should've been moving over and using the take charge button. Since that was completely broken in Live 10, it would've shown a big fix as far as defensive strategy. Being there should stop the dunk (most times) with a foul and collision, and jumping should result in what happened in the video with a foul.
Also, Arroyo is out of bounds when he grabs the miss by Carter. This series needs to respect the boundaries. Do they even have dive for the ball animations or saves?
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I thought the higher difficulties did a good job at making sure the game wasn't a dunk fest online so I hope its the same this year..
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The Heat will have its fair share of dunks this season (to say the least) but with all the shooters they have to spread the floor, it will also be bombs away when Wade and LeBron beat their man on the perimeter. Same scenario, help defender drops down, leaving a shooter wide open.
# 79
scottyp180 @ 09/05/10 03:53 PM
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If you look at the clippers vs hornets gameplay you see similar unrealistic things, such as blake griffin throwin down 2 alley oops with atleast one defender near him. But that's what happens when its human vs human. People like to play fast pace, and when defense is that bad its going to result in alot of dunks. This is how 2k10 was. It could be played realistically,but if you get two people playing each other it could be a dunkfest.
# 80
Boilerbuzz @ 09/05/10 03:56 PM
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