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Top Players
C. Johnson HB - 99
P. Willis MLB - 99
D. Revis CB - 99
J. Allen RE - 99
D. Brees QB - 99
P. Manning QB - 99
R. Clady LT - 98
A. Peterson HB - 98

Top Quarterbacks
D. Brees - 99
P. Manning - 99
T. Brady - 95
A. Rodgers - 94
P. Rivers - 94
B. Favre - 92
T. Romo - 90
M. Shaub - 89

Top Running Backs
C. Johnson - 99
A. Peterson - 98
M. Jones-Drew - 96
S. Jackson - 95
F. Gore - 93
D. Williams - 92
R. Rice - 90
M. Turner - 90

Top Fullbacks
T. Richardson - 94
L. Polite - 91
L. Weaver - 90
L. McLain - 90
L. Vickers - 89
O. Mughelli - 88
M. Hedgecock - 86
M. Karney - 85

Top Wide Receivers
A. Johnson - 98
L. Fitzgerald - 97
B. Marshall - 96
R. Wayne - 96
R. Moss - 95
R. White - 93
S. Smith - 92
D. Jackson - 91

Top Tight Ends
Tony Gonzalez - 98
J. Witten - 97
V. Davis - 96
A. Gates - 96
D. Clark - 96
H. Miller - 90
C. Cooley - 89
K. Winslow - 89

Top Left Tackles
R. Clardy - 98
J. Long - 96
J. Thomas - 95
M. Roos - 95
J. Gross - 95
D. Ferguson - 91
J. Brown - 91
B. McKinnie - 90

Top Left Guards
S. Hutchinson - 97
L. Mankins - 95
B. Grubbs - 94
K. Dielman - 93
C. Nicks - 91
E. Steinback - 91
A. Faneca - 91
T. Herremans - 89

Top Centers
N. Mangold - 97
A. Gurode - 92
J. Saturday - 92
S. O'Hara - 91
M. Birk - 91
R. Kalil - 90
J. Brown - 89
D. Koppen - 88

Top Right Guards
J. Evans - 98
C. Snee - 96
L. Davis - 89
D. Joseph - 88
B. Moore - 88
B. Williams - 88
H. Dahl - 87
J. Scott - 85

Top Right Tackles
J. Stinchcomb - 90
D. Stewart - 89
D. Woody - 89
J. Otah - 86
J. Gaither - 86
V. Carey - 86
R. Harris - 85
E. Winston - 85

Top Left Ends
R. Mathis - 95
J. Tuck - 92
R. Seymour - 92
L. Castillo - 88
A. Smith - 87
C. Campbell - 86
S. Ellis - 86
R. Edwards - 85

Top Right Ends
J. Allen - 99
D. Freeney - 97
M. Williams - 95
T. Cole - 95
J. Peppers - 95
H. Ngata - 94
D. Dockett - 94
W. Smith - 90

Top Defensive Tackles
K. Williams - 97
V. Wilfork - 95
J. Ratliff - 94
K. Jenkins - 94
S. Rogers - 93
C. Hampton - 91
A. Franklin - 90
R. Starks - 89

Top LOLB
L. Woodley - 91
S. Phillips - 91
D. Smith - 89
T. Davis - 87
B. Cushing - 87
J. Peterson - 86
B. Orakpo - 85
R. Maualuga - 85

Top MLB
P. Willis - 99
J. Beason - 96
R. Lewis - 94
D. Harris - 91
B. Ruud - 91
L. Fletcher - 91
D. Ryans - 90
J. Vilma - 90

Top ROLB
D. Ware - 97
J. Harrison - 97
E. Dumervil - 93
L. Briggs - 92
T. Suggs - 90
C. Greenway - 88
K. Rivers - 86
C. Matthews - 86

Top Corners
D. Revis - 99
N. Asomugha - 98
C. Woodson - 97
C. Bailey - 95
A. Samuel - 94
J. Joseph - 93
L. Hall - 92
C. Finnegan -92

Top FS
E. Reed - 97
A. Bethea - 95
D. Sharper - 94
N. Collins - 93
O. Atogwe - 92
B. Dawkins - 90
T. Jackson - 88
K. Rhodes - 88

Top SS
T. Polamalu - 97
A. Wilson - 96
B. Sanders - 89
B. Merriweather - 88
L. Landry - 87
T. Branch - 86
J. Leonhard - 85
B. Pollard - 84

Top Kickers
R. Gould - 95
N. Kaeding - 95
R. Bironas - 93
R. Longwell - 92
S. Gostowski - 91
S. Janikowski - 90
J. Hanson - 89
D. Akers - 89

Top Punters
S. Lechlar - 98
A. Lee - 94
D. Jones - 94
M. Scifres - 93
M. McBriar - 92
D. Colquitt - 91
B. Moorman - 90
S. Koch - 86

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# 181 Unforgiven @ 06/25/10 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by salbowski
How the hell is Mark Sanchez an 82???

Even JET's fans have said in this thread he was god awful last season!!!

The stats only back that up too. Way to jump on the JETs bandwagon Donny!


Pct------ Yds------ TD------ Int------ Rate
53.8---- 2,444---- 12------- 20------- 63.0

63 QB rating for a season = an 82 Madden Rating!!

I haven't seen a Wandwagon this dellusional since the Packers went 4-0 in preseason and suddenly became certs for the SB (because of preseason?!) {they were 2-2 after week 4 in the reg season}.
Wow. If Henne isn't at least an 82, I'm really, really going to be under the impression that this certainly is a popularity contest.
 
# 182 Gosens6 @ 06/25/10 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise-Star-21
No bias from me at all. Big Ben is a great QB..Im just stating facts...
If it is just one play, game , or season... A-ROD is the QB you want behind center. over BR.

And he is actually not on A-ROD'S level to be honest.
I can see where you're coming from, but too be completely honest with you, while I would prefer Aaron Rodgers over Big Ben, in a late game situation, SuperBowl on the line, I would take Ben over Aaron. Just because he has a track record of coming up and delivering in the clutch.
 
# 183 jcofor25 @ 06/26/10 03:56 AM
Ronnie Brown23: MJD won an xbox.
 
# 184 the_EDJ @ 06/26/10 05:08 AM
Can't wait for this game to come out! With Peppers on the D-line in Chicago, it should be run this year terrorizing opposing QB's.
 
# 185 angels eclipse7 @ 06/26/10 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by a4reak
Even I think Sanchez is overrated by 5 points but Sanchez's rating gets a boost b/c the performance he put in the playoffs is a sign of him matruing and showing the player is more so going to be as compared to the season in which he struggled mightily. All his picks basically came in 3 games. I disagreed with the rating but lets not overlook the fact he played very well versus the Colts and Bengals on the road in the playoffs and meh vs the Chargers
Well that is pretty unfair. While he did play great in the playoffs, he barely played worthy of a starter during the regular season. He's going to be great, but doesn't deserve the high rating yet.
 
# 186 stef07311987 @ 06/26/10 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jono078
Fair bit of Vikings love there with most being improved on last season..

(Position - Name - OVR - Rank)

QB Brett Favre - 92 - 6th
RB Adrian Peterson - 98 - 2nd
WR Sidney Rice - 89 - 10th
LT Bryant McKinnie - 90 - 10th
LG Steve Hutchinson - 97 - 1st

LE Ray Edwards - 85 - 8th
RE Jared Allen - 99 - 1st
DT Kevin Williams - 97 - 1st
ROLB Chad Greenway - 88 - 6th

K Ryan Longwell - 92 - 4th

That's a lot of top 10 talent at each position considering most positions have upto and in some cases at least 50 players.

Thanks to Salbowski for pointing out the 2 I missed
how do you know whose ranked 10th at any position?it only goes to 8
 
# 187 stef07311987 @ 06/26/10 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by salbowski
Wow, they're stacked. Not suprised, they battered the Packers (twice), hammered the Cowboys in the playoffs and dominated the Saints in the NFC champ game.

Just looked again, they also have Ray Edwards on the list of top LE's, Longwell on the K list and you have to think Harvin (ROTY) would be rated quite well also.

Another thing I hate is why 3-4 OLBs are always rated higher than 4-3 OLBs just because they get sacks. I don't think it's a very fair comparison but Madden seems to be rated on Sportscenter highlights and 3-4 OLB getting sacks (often without any contact with an Olineman) makes it into sportscenter more than a 4-3 OLB making a good tackle. Just another reason to have formation, system based ratings for positions. (cover2 CBs v man CBs, NT v DT, 3-4 OLBs v 4-3 OLBs).
thats cuz 3-4 LB's are on the field every down and have to do things like cover WRs more often than 4-3.And i think we can all say it takes more skill to be a cover coner than zone...and dont get me wrong about 4-3 LBs,imma eagles fan and i think we got the best group out there but it is what it is
 
# 188 CardsFan52 @ 06/26/10 02:46 PM
Better than what I expected with the Cardinals having four people in a top ten Docket, Campbell, Fanica, and A-Dub. I just want to see Matt Leinart, Tim Hightower, and Beanie Wells raiting so I can see what I'm working with.
 
# 189 Gosens6 @ 06/26/10 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by salbowski
Just going to repost this for people saying Peterson isn't a 98 player or that he fumbles too much to be rated as high as previous RB legends:

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Adrian Peterson is one of three players in NFL history to rush for atleast 1300 yards and 10tds in his first 3 seasons.

1st three seasons:

Marcus Allen: 2879 yards / 33 tds / 27 fumbles
***Jim Brown:3798 yards / 40 tds / 14 fumbles***
Barry Sanders: 4322 yards/ 43 tds / 19 fumbles

Adrian Peterson: 4484 yards/ 40 tds / 20 fumbles

More yards than all of them, only less TDs than Sanders, far less fumbles than Allen, similar fumbles to Sanders.

*** Only played 12 game seasons.

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Hmmm.
Thank you. Maybe the Peterson haters will finally shut up
 
# 190 csfan20 @ 06/26/10 03:30 PM
only 2 giants o-lineman in top 10?
osi below an 85?
wow.....
 
# 191 angels eclipse7 @ 06/26/10 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenReign86
Nope, Ryan Grant has had simular numbers to Adrian Pederson the last couple of seasons. So why the hell isn't he a 98 overall?
Peterson has rushed for 1,300 more yards and 17 more touch downs than Grant over the last 3 years.

SO yeah. I lol'd.

Oh, and a good way I think to allow fumbles to hurt someones rating is for every fumble, minus 25 yards to the ball carriers overall yards. Then compare the running backs in who had the most yards per season. Should give a more fair view of best to worst.
 
# 192 Gosens6 @ 06/26/10 05:39 PM
You compare Ryan Grant to A.P.? Wow I needed a laugh for the day. Specifically saying they had similar stats. Holy hell that was funny.
 
# 193 angels eclipse7 @ 06/26/10 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenReign86
I'd rather have a HB that doesn't fumble 5 times a game, thank you very much.
Actually, he averages about one fumble for every 2 or 3 games.
 
# 194 Franchise-Star-21 @ 06/26/10 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by salbowski
You don't need a HB to fumble, you have Aaron Rodgers. He's fumbled 20 times in the last 2 years.

Oh man thats Hilarious man ....... Learn your NFL Facts first please.
 
# 195 steelers1 @ 06/27/10 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by salbowski
That's just embarrassing. No, I don't mean the 20 fumbles, nor your random capitalization, just the irony.
Hahaha... somebody needs to check the prescription on those green and gold glasses these Packers fans are wearing. First comparing Ryan Grant to Adrian Peterson, now denying fumble stats that are in plain black and white on any stat website on the internet.

Honestly though, sacks lead to fumbles, and just about every QB who is sacked 35+ times fumbles around 10 times. Of course guys like Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Cassel, and others take unnecessary sacks, but Rodger's fumbles per carry/sack aren't really out of the ordinary at all.

Adrian Peterson gets his 'fumbling reputation' mostly from fumbling at bad times and big games. He fumbles quite a bit for a running back, but he makes up for it tenfold with his production. I'd gladly take his 7 fumbles (only about 3 or 4 more than the average back) if I could get the nearly 2000 total yards and 20 TDs he brings to the table. Anybody who would take Ryan Grant over AD is either a homer or just dumb.

Grant's a good running back and all, but half the time he doesn't more than 15 or 16 carries. I've had him on my fantasy team before and it is annoying. Seemed like every other game he'd have like 50 yards. Way too inconsistent and not the gamebreaker that AD is.
 
# 196 Franchise-Star-21 @ 06/27/10 02:23 AM
You do understand the reason i said Check your Facts ( Random Cap for you ..yupp ).. Is because the Packers have had probably the worst O-Line in football the last 2-3 years , and to put up the numbers that A-ROD indeed did is just beast . So take your NFL stats page ..which you prob need to make points outta here because thats not what i wasn talking about. You have no right to come at Rodgers , especially with the numbers he puts up with that pathetic o-line.

And same situation with AD, i never said Grant is a RB ...are you crazy?

Please dont take out your Ben R/ The hole Steelers Org. downfall anger on A-ROD .
 
# 197 steelers1 @ 06/27/10 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Franchise-Star-21
You do understand the reason i said Check your Facts ( Random Cap for you ..yupp ).. Is because the Packers have had probably the worst O-Line in football the last 2-3 years , and to put up the numbers that A-ROD indeed did is just beast . So take your NFL stats page ..which you prob need to make points outta here because thats not what i wasn talking about. You have no right to come at Rodgers , especially with the numbers he puts up with that pathetic o-line.

And same situation with AD, i never said Grant is a RB ...are you crazy?

Please dont take out your Ben R/ The hole Steelers Org. downfall anger on A-ROD .
First of all, Grant is a RB. But I was referring to a different delusional Packers fan with that comment.

Secondly, I don't really know what you are talking about with the Steelers downfall thing or how that had anything to do with my post.

Thirdly, I think your 'fact' being about the O-line is weak.

The 'Fact' is that Aaron Rodgers holds the ball too long. I've heard it about Big Ben for years, and when I watch Rodgers play I can't help but wonder why no one ever says it about him.

The 'worst offensive line' argument is weak because Brett Favre in '07 took a whopping 15 sacks on 550 dropbacks with basically the same group. The last time Brett took more than 26 sacks in Green Bay was 2000. That goes to show the right QB can make an offensive line look better or worse. The offensive linemen haven't really changed much since 2007, but went from allowing 15 sacks in 07 to 34 in 08 to 50 in 09.

Even back when Favre was in GB and Rodgers would play mop up every now and then he took sacks. He was sacked 13% of the time (9 times in 68 dropbacks) while Favre was there compared to Favre's 3%. The line did pretty good in pass protection with Favre in there, and as soon as a new QB comes in it turns into the worst line in the league?

I'm not saying it's a great offensive line, but Rodger's makes it look worse, and brings a lot of the hits on himself. His numbers are impressive, though, given that he is often under pressure, and I'm in no way saying that Rodgers isn't one of the top passers in the league.
 
# 198 YeahDonnie @ 06/27/10 03:42 AM
There should be a "whining like a bitch" rating and Tom Brady should get a 99.
 
# 199 Franchise-Star-21 @ 06/27/10 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by steelers1
First of all, Grant is a RB. But I was referring to a different delusional Packers fan with that comment.

Secondly, I don't really know what you are talking about with the Steelers downfall thing or how that had anything to do with my post.

Thirdly, I think your 'fact' being about the O-line is weak.

The 'Fact' is that Aaron Rodgers holds the ball too long. I've heard it about Big Ben for years, and when I watch Rodgers play I can't help but wonder why no one ever says it about him.

The 'worst offensive line' argument is weak because Brett Favre in '07 took a whopping 15 sacks on 550 dropbacks with basically the same group. The last time Brett took more than 26 sacks in Green Bay was 2000. That goes to show the right QB can make an offensive line look better or worse. The offensive linemen haven't really changed much since 2007, but went from allowing 15 sacks in 07 to 34 in 08 to 50 in 09.

Even back when Favre was in GB and Rodgers would play mop up every now and then he took sacks. He was sacked 13% of the time (9 times in 68 dropbacks) while Favre was there compared to Favre's 3%. The line did pretty good in pass protection with Favre in there, and as soon as a new QB comes in it turns into the worst line in the league?

I'm not saying it's a great offensive line, but Rodger's makes it look worse, and brings a lot of the hits on himself. His numbers are impressive, though, given that he is often under pressure, and I'm in no way saying that Rodgers isn't one of the top passers in the league.

The O-line arguement is not weak , not at all . Fact is, skill wise, it is not the same group . Tauscher and Clifton at RT and LT 3 years older and battered with injuries, is not the same, and not even talking about the young carousel they at at Gaurd and Center. So not the same.
Yes, Arod holds onto the ball a couple of times, but you cannot use that point and take away from the O-line.

Underneath Favre, Our O-Line was actually very good, Back with Ahman Green at RB, we had a top 5 OL at the time. But now it is a completely different story.

If you watch ANY packers game you would understand the situation. Up until maybe week 12, our OL was just terrible to be honest. Then they started getting it together "somewhat". But all in all, the OL is actually a very big difference.

But hey , even if "its the same line" ,
Arods 7 INT's vs. Favre's 29
.
 
# 200 steelers1 @ 06/27/10 05:40 AM
Yea I understand age and injuries take their toll, and it was pretty evident last season, but even going from allowing 15 sacks to 34 is significant, and that season didn't have near the injuries. I'm not saying Favre didn't sling up passes and I'm not saying Rodgers should start either. But he could throw the ball away and cut down on sacks and fumbles.

And I'm well aware most of Rodgers' sacks were probably caused by a lack of protection, but like many of the great 'ball holders of the NFL' (mainly Cassel, Rodgers, and Roethlisberger) they usually take at least one sack a game that they could have easily avoided. It's obviously impossible to know for sure, but I would bet that Peyton, Brees, or Brady behind that same line would have had 30 or less sacks last year.

It's Rodgers' playing style, and if the guy can take the beating and still perform at a high level and win games, then more power to him. It's just those pesky fumbles like in the playoffs last year that make you just want him to throw the ball away.

Just a note on Favre and his 29 pick season in 05... while blaming INTs on the O-line is about like blaming QBs for dropped passes, even if Favre had taken sacks instead of INTs he still would have only had 53 sacks. And it's not like Favre throws all his INTs trying to avoid sacks either; he just always is thinking "F it I'm goin' deep."
 


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