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NCAA Football 11 Demo To Also Feature Clemson and Mizzou, Screenshots Included

09:17 AM - June 9, 2010 by Steve_OS

With Ohio St., Miami, FSU and Florida already announced as playable teams in the NCAA Football 11 demo, EA announced today that Clemson and Mizzou have been added to the list of teams. Check out the screenshots right here.

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# 101 jmik58 @ 06/09/10 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mrMagic91


	Thats no reason to put Iowa in. Just because they turned their facemask black and added a sticker on the helmet doesnt give them an edge over anyone. Plus, neither one of them are pro-combat teams. If you havent notice, there is at least one pro combat uni team in the demo. FSU, Mizzou, OSU, Clemsons are actually pro combats. Im not hating, but im just letting you know.

I think Iowa would be a great addition to the demo to showcase the Zone Run style of offense.

# 102 Dr Death @ 06/09/10 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jmik58


	June Jones is running the "June Jones" version of Run&Shoot. The basic principle of what the Run&Shoot remains as I stated.

In the Run & Shoot's history there is Tiger Ellison - Mouse Davis - June Jones. Many of the changes to it have been implemented by Jones as it has evolved over the past 15 years. In college, a lot of teams use Run & Shoot principles as part of their offense... like Air Raid, which, as Mike Leach himself has said, is part Run & Shoot, part West Coast.

Nobody had a bigger impact on the Run & Shoot than Mouse Davis, who first brought it to popularity and success at Portland State and then later, in the USFL with the Houston Gamblers and Denver Gold.

Since Davis it has been June Jones who has had the biggest impact on the offense. So when you say he is running the 'June Jones Version' of the offense that's like saying Bill Walsh is running 'Bill Walsh Version' of the West Coast.

SMU and Hawaii run the Run & Shoot exclusively right now. In 2009 SMU was # 12 in the country in red zone scoring, Hawaii was 119th. Which proves that Jones has a little more knowledge of the offense he has helped pioneer over the years. Perhaps you are referring to high school teams using the Run & Shoot or perhaps you could clarify what teams you are referring to. Because nobody knows this offense better than JJ and nobody runs it better or has had as much success.

# 103 lint @ 06/09/10 08:07 PM

I love the ACC, but what is up with the ACC getting all this love?

# 104 krc1130 @ 06/09/10 08:58 PM

When it says that Mizzou is an aggressive no huddle spread, does that mean that if im playing as Notre Dame, will the game be on auto no huddle or do I have to manually run a no huddle?

# 105 jwwright620 @ 06/09/10 09:04 PM

Wow, what a dud pick. It appears the match ups were all non conference games to this point so EA could have done a much better job in picking another decent match up-ND vs USC, UNC vs LSU, etc.

Go figure.....

# 106 Brandwin @ 06/09/10 09:34 PM

I'm guessing we will know the other two teams tomorrow? I wonder if we will find out other details, like quarter length, difficulty, etc... tomorrow, or will they wait until Friday?

# 107 Dr Death @ 06/09/10 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jwwright620


	Wow, what a dud pick. It appears the match ups were all non conference games to this point so EA could have done a much better job in picking another decent match up-ND vs USC, UNC vs LSU, etc. Go figure.....

Seriously dude? When was the last time a football game had 8 teams in their demo? Sheesh...

# 108 BakerWildcat4life @ 06/09/10 11:54 PM

Is it just me or is #12 for clemson's back flap animated?? Some body take a look at that pick and correct me if I'm wrong...... More attention to detail!

# 109 jmik58 @ 06/10/10 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Death


	In the Run & Shoot's history there is Tiger Ellison - Mouse Davis - June Jones. Many of the changes to it have been implemented by Jones as it has evolved over the past 15 years. In college, a lot of teams use Run & Shoot principles as part of their offense... like Air Raid, which, as Mike Leach himself has said, is part Run & Shoot, part West Coast. Nobody had a bigger impact on the Run & Shoot than Mouse Davis, who first brought it to popularity and success at Portland State and then later, in the USFL with the Houston Gamblers and Denver Gold. Since Davis it has been June Jones who has had the biggest impact on the offense. So when you say he is running the 'June Jones Version' of the offense that's like saying Bill Walsh is running 'Bill Walsh Version' of the West Coast. SMU and Hawaii run the Run & Shoot exclusively right now. In 2009 SMU was # 12 in the country in red zone scoring, Hawaii was 119th. Which proves that Jones has a little more knowledge of the offense he has helped pioneer over the years. Perhaps you are referring to high school teams using the Run & Shoot or perhaps you could clarify what teams you are referring to. Because nobody knows this offense better than JJ and nobody runs it better or has had as much success.

You make my point for me in your statistics comparing SMU and Hawaii. No two offenses are the same and no one runs a "pure" form of any offense. Everyone has their variations.

Just because June Jones gets better results out of his version of the Run and Shoot doesn't make it a more pure form of the offense.

As for Bill Walsh and the West Coast offense. Coach Walsh came first and the style was labeled to him. He created, was, is the original West Coast offense.

June Jones enhanced the Run and Shoot and made it his own after someone else created it, developed it. Therefore, saying "Bill Walsh style of West Coast" is not the same as "June Jones style of Run and Shoot".

I'm not saying anything about any specific teams. I'm talking about the fact that the concept of the Run and Shoot is an offense that historically involved lots of motion by receivers. Sure, trips and other formations have been used to tip the defense's hand to show where the open receiver should be.

Anyways, at least you're agreeable that there are similarities between many of the passing offenses. Air Raid has R&S has West Coast, etc. In other words, these offenses have concepts and the way they are executed doesn't change whether they qualify as a certain style of offense.

For example, I can run a spread offense than uses zone blocking. Am I not good enough or pure enough to be called a zone running team because I don't follow the shadow of the purest zone run formations.

Keep in mind, we're not talking about formations, we're talking about philosophy. There are many ways to accomplish the philosophy that a R&S attempts to carry out. If a team uses motion or different formations from how the holy June Jones does, it doesn't make it any less Run and Shoot.

# 110 trobinson97 @ 06/10/10 12:45 AM

If Bama isn't in the demo I am gonna be soooo pissed.

# 111 tyman21 @ 06/10/10 12:56 AM

WTF Mizzou? It's not like they have Chase Daniel anymore.
Arkansas and the best offense in the country should be in above Missouri. I'm betting Texas, Alabama, and Boise State get in too.

# 112 Equinox831 @ 06/10/10 01:28 AM

All the demo teams so far had screen's released for them before they were announced officially. I saw a couple Ohio State and Miami shots from way before they were announced for the demo, if the trend stays, I think we're going to see Michigan vs. Arkansas soon...

# 113 BROman @ 06/10/10 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox831


	All the demo teams so far had screen's released for them before they were announced officially. I saw a couple Ohio State and Miami shots from way before they were announced for the demo, if the trend stays, I think we're going to see Michigan vs. Arkansas soon...

syracuse and usf had screenshots too

# 114 Dr Death @ 06/10/10 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jmik58


	There are many ways to accomplish the philosophy that a R&S attempts to carry out. If a team uses motion or different formations from how the holy June Jones does, it doesn't make it any less Run and Shoot.

I think you either didn't understand my point or something else happened along the way... LOL In your first post you mentioned the R&S using a lot of motion and that the Air Raid could always implement that... I responded by saying that JJ doesn't run motion anymore. Hawaii still runs the R&S and things may be slightly different w/ out JJ there, but they don't motion either.

The reason I brought JJ into it is because he is responsible for the R&S still being active at the college level. I don't know who else, besides Hawaii and SMU, that run the R&S full time.

I did not say using motion made it less a R&S, just that the guy who is responsible for it being where it is today doesn't use it anymore. Mouse Davis coached at Portland State the past couple years but being D-II I never saw them play, so I don't know if they did or didn't.

I know lots of high schools use it and they may or may not motion, it really doesn't matter to me. I was just stating that Jones doesn't. Didn't mean for it to become a pissing match. A lot of people that play NCAA want things as real as can be and I tend to be stickler for things, so when someone says something about an offense that hasn't actually been used in 15 years I just like to set the record straight.

You are correct, there are many ways one can implement it. Even Bill Walsh and his WCO implemented option routes. And whilst at Hawaii, JJ started implementing some WCO principles. So it's give and take.

# 115 PVarck31 @ 06/10/10 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jwwright620


	Wow, what a dud pick. It appears the match ups were all non conference games to this point so EA could have done a much better job in picking another decent match up-ND vs USC, UNC vs LSU, etc. Go figure.....

Wow, dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.

# 116 canes21 @ 06/10/10 09:40 AM

Seems people are angry their team wasn't picked. We're getting 8 teams and they are all pretty well known. Miami was a powerhouse and appears to be on the rise again. They also are a good choice to show off the pro style offense with their depth at the running back position and all their speed at wide receiver. They also have a good quarterback in Jacory Harris who has shown he has potential to be something great.

Ohio State is another good example for their offense. As much as I hate to admit it, they are a good team year in and year out. Plus, this match up will be a big one that has the chance to make the season go one way or another. If Miami can win they will have a much easier road to a top 10 ranking. If Ohio State wins they will show they are still a top team that can hang with the speed with fundamental defense.

Florida is a good pick because it will be showing off a Florida team we are not familiar with. How will they be without Tebow? Will their defense still be as strong and quick?

Florida State was a great choice because this is a big rivalry and its a chance to see how they will do with a new coach. Not that that translates into the game rally, but it is a chance to see where the new and hopefully not too overrated Florida State team stands.

Now, Missouri. They aren't the most well known team really. They stand in a conference with big name teams like Oklahoma and Texas, but they hold their own pretty good. They have what could potentially be the best QB in the draft when he leaves with Blaine Gabbert. They are also one of the originals in the spread and the father of the spread no huddle. This was an obvious choice in my opinion to show off the spread.

Clemson... this choice has me stumped a little. I don't know why exactly they chose them. Its probably to show off another type of spread so the casual gamer doesn't think every teams plays like Mizzou. It will be interesting to see how they are without their two big speed demons.

# 117 seasprite @ 06/10/10 09:44 AM

I've got money that says UT will not be in the demo

# 118 Hova57 @ 06/10/10 10:32 AM

they gonna make us wait for the last one i guess. usually by now we would know.

# 119 Catamount53 @ 06/10/10 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by canes21


	Seems people are angry their team wasn't picked. We're getting 8 teams and they are all pretty well known. Miami was a powerhouse and appears to be on the rise again. They also are a good choice to show off the pro style offense with their depth at the running back position and all their speed at wide receiver. They also have a good quarterback in Jacory Harris who has shown he has potential to be something great. Ohio State is another good example for their offense. As much as I hate to admit it, they are a good team year in and year out. Plus, this match up will be a big one that has the chance to make the season go one way or another. If Miami can win they will have a much easier road to a top 10 ranking. If Ohio State wins they will show they are still a top team that can hang with the speed with fundamental defense. Florida is a good pick because it will be showing off a Florida team we are not familiar with. How will they be without Tebow? Will their defense still be as strong and quick? Florida State was a great choice because this is a big rivalry and its a chance to see how they will do with a new coach. Not that that translates into the game rally, but it is a chance to see where the new and hopefully not too overrated Florida State team stands. Now, Missouri. They aren't the most well known team really. They stand in a conference with big name teams like Oklahoma and Texas, but they hold their own pretty good. They have what could potentially be the best QB in the draft when he leaves with Blaine Gabbert. They are also one of the originals in the spread and the father of the spread no huddle. This was an obvious choice in my opinion to show off the spread. Clemson... this choice has me stumped a little. I don't know why exactly they chose them. Its probably to show off another type of spread so the casual gamer doesn't think every teams plays like Mizzou. It will be interesting to see how they are without their two big speed demons.

# 120 gotti1914 @ 06/10/10 04:32 PM

Man...I can't wait till next week...

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