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NBA Live Being Renamed NBA Elite, Scan Posted (Pasta Padre)

02:11 PM - May 26, 2010 by DaWolf

According to Pastapadre, via OXM, NBA Live will be renamed NBA Elite.

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	"The NBA Live name is no more. This year�s NBA title from EA Sports will be called NBA Elite 11. According to OXM (via drules2) the game will be heavy on analog controls with Skate and Fight Night the two titles garnering comparisons in that regard. I�m hoping to get some additional details soon."

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# 81 ehh @ 05/27/10 10:54 PM

I don't know, I like the sound of this so far. I'm not going to get caught up in hype but this sounds more positive than negative. Granted that "starting over" yet again means a whole ton of new bugs that will drive us crazy.

Everyone wanted better animations, it seems like we're getting that.
Enough people wanted a shot-stick, I'm in different on this even as a long time 2Ker.
Seems like dribble moves have been expanded but they're still on the R-stick which is good. I hope it's a simple version of Isomotion, I hate that complicated crap in 2K.

The animations are the big thing for me. More animations and getting rid of the body contact are to huge must-haves for "Elite" 11. lol

# 82 TreyIM2 @ 05/27/10 11:56 PM

The way I see it, the new name, of course, is to try to help shake the stigma of their b-ball franchise but I think the choice of the name "Elite" is to coincide with the new and improved things they are doing with the franchise.
A new, real-time physics engine, like the one to also debut in NHL 11, to rival Euphoria's real-time physics engine? Possibly refined controls? Hmm. Somethings cookin' and I'm liking the smell...even if I don't really care for the name. We'll see what else is revealed.

# 83 SouthernBrick @ 05/28/10 12:47 AM

NBA Elite.

Couldn't come up with a better name than that? I don't play live(or elite as they now call it) but, I'm not diggin' the name to much.

# 84 tedus @ 05/28/10 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by loadleft


	^ I think you missed his point. I took what he was saying as traditionally EA has come out with these game breaking features but allowed something else to fall by the wayside, so he's like: UH-OH! Why not just fix what was a solid foundation instead of starting down a new path.

Thanks to explain for me!!...
That's what i want to talk ...

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Originally Posted by loadleft


	^ To some degree I agree with that sentiment. I really have mixed feelings about this new thing. I elaborated a lot more in the Physics thread but for the most part I am afraid this could be a repeat of what happened when they first came out w/freestyle dribbling. Either way being that no one has seen the game it's really not possible to complain about it only to respond to the info we have so far.

I admit i have some sentiment!! but EA did not do well for many years....

I feel SCARED and had no cofidence!!

That's why i said this!!

# 85 scottyp180 @ 05/28/10 02:35 AM

This actually makes me interested in NBA Elite(Live) 11. I've always been a fan of the 2K series over Live but this name change makes me curious as to how EA could, perhaps, innovate the basketball series. As people have said MVP and Fight Night both revived their respective sports franchise. Not to mention that both Fifa and NHL have recently received enhancements to the controls and movement of players, maybe EA has something in store for Elite.

And why is everyone over reacting over a title change; whether the game is called Live 11 or Elite 11 I'm sure the same changes to gameplay would have still ocurred. This is just a way for EA to draw attention to their game, and whether you hate it or like it it's a smart choice for EA. You have to also consider the speculation that 2k11 will feature Michael Jordan on the cover, most likely making him (and perhaps other more recent legends) playable characters in the game. If this article just said that EA is releasing Live 11 no one is going to care, but because EA is making a name change people have a reason to talk their game instead of 2Ks.

But in the end it doesnt matter to me if the basketball game I buy is titled 2k11, Live 11, or Elite 11 I just want the best basketball simulation ever.

# 86 Kully @ 05/28/10 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 23


	im not interested in anymore marketing shenanagins, just the real deal

Completely agree. Sums up my thoughts exactly.

# 87 Shakedowncapo @ 05/28/10 04:57 AM

A new EA feature working year one...When has that ever happened? Exploit city here we come.

# 88 sarlndr @ 05/28/10 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shakedowncapo


	A new EA feature working year one...When has that ever happened? Exploit city here we come.

^ Bingo!

Only time will tell what the game play is like so we all have to wait. EA seems to be on an analog craze right now with all their sports games. As long as they leave an option for face button controls then it's all good.

# 89 Da_Czar @ 05/28/10 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by scottyp180


	This actually makes me interested in NBA Elite(Live) 11. I've always been a fan of the 2K series over Live but this name change makes me curious as to how EA could, perhaps, innovate the basketball series. As people have said MVP and Fight Night both revived their respective sports franchise. Not to mention that both Fifa and NHL have recently received enhancements to the controls and movement of players, maybe EA has something in store for Elite. And why is everyone over reacting over a title change; whether the game is called Live 11 or Elite 11 I'm sure the same changes to gameplay would have still ocurred. This is just a way for EA to draw attention to their game, and whether you hate it or like it it's a smart choice for EA. You have to also consider the speculation that 2k11 will feature Michael Jordan on the cover, most likely making him (and perhaps other more recent legends) playable characters in the game. If this article just said that EA is releasing Live 11 no one is going to care, but because EA is making a name change people have a reason to talk their game instead of 2Ks. But in the end it doesnt matter to me if the basketball game I buy is titled 2k11, Live 11, or Elite 11 I just want the best basketball simulation ever.

I don't think most are saying it isn't a very good business move to change the name. For me it just wasn't a great choice but I'm sure after 5 or 6 years it might be just as common as live has become...

# 90 BlueNGold @ 05/28/10 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalsanto0026


	While we have every right to be skeptical about this game due to the franchise's poor track record, I think we should wait until more is known about this game before we completely write it off. It's funny how news of real-time physics in the NHL 11 forum is met with excitement and anticipation yet here it's met with negativity. This actually sounds promising, and has the potential to drastically improve one of the franchises most glaring problems, it's animations. I'm not bothered by the use of analog controls instead of buttons, if they're responsive, but it would be much smarter if EA gave us the option. I'll be keeping a close eye on this game, as I'm sure most of the members here will. If ever there was a franchise that needed a change, a fresh start, this is it.

That's because the NHL series has proven itself over the last 4 years.

There's been a ton of skepticism with this because a lot of good devs that had a focus on building a great basketball simulation left because of the direction this game was going. So I can see why people aren't as excited.

# 91 scottyp180 @ 05/28/10 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Da_Czar


	I don't think most are saying it isn't a very good business move to change the name. For me it just wasn't a great choice but I'm sure after 5 or 6 years it might be just as common as live has become...

My guess for why EA chose the Elite name is a number of reasons. EA is signifying that this is the Elite basketball game on the market. They can also be using Elite to refer to the elite players in the league and suggesting you can now play like these elite players. Perhaps there could be more than one cover athlete, though unlikely, having a number of "elite" players on the cover; however based on the article scan I assume it will be Lebron but you never know.

It will be weird not seeing an NBA Live game hit the market again but I have no doubt in my mind the Elite 11 will be the best basketball game EA has released for next-gen systems, and perhaps ever, as long as the controls are as responsive as the article suggest; however, just like the name change, the gameplay will be something we need to adjust too. The one concern I have about the game is that Mike Wang left the team because he did not like the direction in which the game was going. To me these new additions can do nothing but improve the game so I am curious to how the game turns out. Can't wait to see how the game looks in motion.

# 92 NINJAK2 @ 05/28/10 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueNGold


	You say the last part like its never been done before. I use the R stick to shoot in 2K all the time and it feels completely natural and much better than a button. But that's my opinion and I realize other people don't feel the same so I agree they should have the option of buttons. .

I agree 100%. I've been using the shot stick in 2k since it arrived..

# 93 NINJAK2 @ 05/28/10 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blues rocker


	so you use the right stick for both dribbling and shooting? i can see that being a huge problem..like you might go to do a dribbling move and your guy shoots instead. I also seems like they are complicating the dribbling moves (making you move the right stick in a circle to do a behind the back, etc.)...i can see this type of system being very unresponsive and hard to control...i think there will be a lot of situations where you will be moving the stick and getting the wrong dribbling move or you have to do a motion 3 or 4 times before it actually does what you want. i liked Live 10's easy dribbling stystem where you just had to flick the stick in a certain direction to do a spin move or whatever...it was quick and easy...this new system seems like it could be cumbersome and unnecessarily complicated...sounds like a cheap gimmick that doesn't actually improve the game, but instead complicates the controls when they didn't need to be made more complicated. I like the idea of using the right stick for shot blocking and stealing...but in regards to the dribbling, it was already excellent the way it was...this seems like it could be a step forward in some areas but a step back in others..

That could easily work Blues if they just at a modifier button to distinguish between dribbling and shots. For example, Right stick alone equals dribbling...Hold down right trigger and right stick equals shot attempt.

# 94 Pared @ 05/28/10 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NINJAK2


	That could easily work Blues if they just at a modifier button to distinguish between dribbling and shots. For example, Right stick alone equals dribbling...Hold down right trigger and right stick equals shot attempt.

I've been pimping this for years at anyone that would listen.

I gave up though.

# 95 bonbonan @ 05/28/10 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	I've been pimping this for years at anyone that would listen. I gave up though.

Try it dude,It's truth and fun!

# 96 NINJAK2 @ 05/28/10 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by michaeljordanjr


	Is there any doubt the first NBA game that ditches canned animations wins? I've always asked in wish lists for real-time physics, and if they made it like Backbreaker, I'm almost sold.

In football, devs don't have to account for a player dribbling a ball. The ball is either tucked under a player's right or left arm in football. Hoop is another beast all together with that dynamic as physics has to take into account both the player and the ball. If they can do it........I think it will be alot harder than backbreaker imo.

I don't know if others have read this but here is a cool little interview with Marcus about why he left.. http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/03/12...to-thq-for-svr

# 97 ehh @ 05/28/10 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NINJAK2


	That could easily work Blues if they just at a modifier button to distinguish between dribbling and shots. For example, Right stick alone equals dribbling...Hold down right trigger and right stick equals shot attempt.

Would have to let the R-stick go to neutral before executing a shot though? I'm not sure that method would be seamless.

If you're mid-dribble move (the R-stick is pressed in any direction) and you hit the trigger, what happens? That could get messy.

# 98 23 @ 05/28/10 06:53 PM

If there was an article posted, then it is not too early to discuss. This is a message board

I dont understand that line of thinking at all

# 99 10yard-Fight @ 05/28/10 08:08 PM

Had no idea Live 10 would be my last nba live purchase... Live had a nice run after the likes of lakers vs celtics, bulls vs lakers, bulls vs blazers, nba showtime... live 95- 99 were the best. 2k came along and took the title in my eyes up until last years games as far as im concerned. I thought Live 10 was a very good game, the name change will help EA's sales... but consumers shouldn't really care. I may still call it Live 11.

# 100 23 @ 05/29/10 12:01 AM

As far as the physics I agree, its wait and see

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