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Backbreaker Hands-On Preview (Gameinformer)

07:59 PM - April 2, 2010 by Steve_OS

Gameinformer has posted their hands-on preview of Backbreaker.

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	"With All-Pro Football and Blitz hanging up their cleats, EA is the undisputed king of football games. That isn�t stopping Natural Motion from going for it on fourth down with Backbreaker. Armed with the Euphoria engine that has powered the impressive animations for games like Grand Theft Auto IV and The Force Unleashed, Backbreaker aims to take down the NCAA and Madden publisher with its gritty, up close and personal brand of football. To get a better sense of what this game�s about, 505 Games supplied us with a preview build."

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# 121 kjcheezhead @ 04/08/10 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	So, people can't judge based on what they've seen up to this point? Look, I've never liked liver since my folks ate it at the table since I was a kid. That doesn't mean I will even come close to trying it in my lifetime. I know I never will.

Your playing both sides now. According to you, I'm not supposed to prejudge Madden 11 based on not liking the 5 earlier versions the game is being built off of, or the early info that's been released. I gotta wait for a demo first.

But, it's ok to prejudge an unfinished game that's the first in the series based off videos and a few websites opinions(some of which were positive and a couple negative).

Which one is it?

# 122 roadman @ 04/08/10 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	Your playing both sides now. According to you, I'm not supposed to prejudge Madden 11 based on not liking the 5 earlier versions the game is being built off of, or the early info that's been released. I gotta wait for a demo first. But, it's ok to prejudge an unfinished game that's the first in the series based off videos and a few websites opinions(some of which were positive and a couple negative). Which one is it?

Alright, I see where you are going in the first paragraph. First of all, I wasn't referring to anyone directly, that statement was to cover others with the show me don't tell attitude. Also, I didn't say wait for the demo, I said wait till August. (Plus, I didn't even quote you on that) Secondly, if the same people are going to say the same four words over and over again after each blog, it just seems like an automatic response from the same people.(Similar to the Groundhog day movie)

If you want to prejudge the other game based on the past, that's your right. If others want to judge BB on a few videos and their own research, that's their right as well.

I'm not prejudging either game at this time. I'm a bit leery of the A.I. in BB, but I haven't had my hands on it, so if I have any issues with any of the games, it's not fair for me to judge at this time.

Plus, not much I can do with finances at this time for any game.

# 123 kjcheezhead @ 04/08/10 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Alright, I see where you are going in the first paragraph. First of all, I wasn't referring to anyone directly, that statement was to cover others with the show me don't tell attitude. Also, I didn't say wait for the demo, I said wait till August. (Plus, I didn't even quote you on that) Secondly, if the same people are going to say the same four words over and over again after each blog, it just seems like an automatic response from the same people.(Similar to the Groundhog day movie) If you want to prejudge the other game based on the past, that's your right. If others want to judge BB on a few videos and their own research, that's their right as well. I'm not prejudging either game at this time. I'm a bit leery of the A.I. in BB, but I haven't had my hands on it, so if I have any issues with any of the games, it's not fair for me to judge at this time. Plus, not much I can do with finances at this time for any game.

The AI will probably have some issues, and they will find alot of them once gamers start playing just like every other game but they can sometimes get it adjusted. Madden 10 had the passing to the flats thing that they addressed with a patch for instance.

I'm not getting too hung up on any one part of this game, I just wanna try out the camera and play defense with that tackle system, sounds like it's gonna be awesome.

Sorry to hear about the finance thing tho I know you mentioned it a while back, hopefully that works out for you. I know video games have to take a back seat in situations like that.

# 124 dmick4324 @ 04/08/10 09:00 PM

Yeah I can't wait to play Safety in BB. I'm looking forward to playing as a MLB and laying a huuuge hit on an unsuspecting receiver going across the middle

# 125 kjcheezhead @ 04/08/10 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dmick4324


	Yeah I can't wait to play Safety in BB. I'm looking forward to playing as a MLB and laying a huuuge hit on an unsuspecting receiver going across the middle .

Nothing like popping a wr in full stride to let the opposition know you came to play.

# 126 dmick4324 @ 04/08/10 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	Nothing like popping a wr in full stride to let the opposition know you came to play.

Woops I wrote safety instead of defense in my previous post. But yeah that would be amazing to pop a wr at the beginning of a home game and really set the tone. Idk how in depth the crowds are and if they effect the players on the field, but it would be even better if the crowd erupted after a big hit and the other team lost momentum or something. Ugh there's so much potential for sports games.

# 127 Gibbz @ 04/09/10 03:15 PM

Heh, that preview makes it sound god-awful. Pretty disappointing, but not exactly unexpected.

# 128 JayBee74 @ 04/09/10 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrooks111


	Heh, that preview makes it sound god-awful. Pretty disappointing, but not exactly unexpected.

Very disappointing-the reviewer that is.

# 129 dickey1331 @ 04/10/10 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	I can see prejudging if I haven't liked the series. I didn't like Halo when I played, never followed a sequel. I liked COD and buy every new version day one. BB gets treated like strange food some kid sees on his plate. "That camera angle looks funny, I don't like it." As momma used to tell me, don't knock it til you try it. You might like it.

Maybe people prejudge cuz its a small video game compay with a small dev team who have never made a sports game. I think that gives people plenty of reasons to question if this game will suck or not.

# 130 JayBee74 @ 04/10/10 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrikan


	hmm..

I see a pattern. I think he's using a dis template.

# 131 CreatineKasey @ 04/10/10 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	The first time i knew this game was going to be trouble is when i heard the dev diaries and all the dues were brits. Its like, come on now. lol ITs like the US making a game of cricket. It just doesnt sound right. I lost hype as soon as i seen the awful camera angles and the every throw is a throw off the back foot. Game is going to flop hardcore, just like every other non NFL football game. Even if it was a good game, it would have still flopped. NFL logo is just to powerful.

Keep in mind this guy is a huge 2k football fan. He, like I, is rooting big time for other games to flood the market. Just because we have strong concern doesn't mean we have some "agenda" like the BB crew loves to claim.

Nice seeing you over here at OS, KC! If you get this game on release day, let me know what you think. I actually trust your opinion. I won't be buying it on release day unless I love the demo or something drastic changes. For me, it's less about the camera angles and more about the back foot perfect throws and AI issues. That's the kind of stuff that I just can't handle.

I'm looking forward to the demo, though. At the very least it'll be nice seeing the tackle engine go to work on my HDTV.

# 132 JayBee74 @ 04/10/10 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CreatineKasey


	If you get this game on release day, let me know what you think. I actually trust your opinion.

I just want to know what about his post makes you think he's getting it on release day?

# 133 kjcheezhead @ 04/10/10 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	The first time i knew this game was going to be trouble is when i heard the dev diaries and all the dues were brits. Its like, come on now. lol ITs like the US making a game of cricket. It just doesnt sound right. I lost hype as soon as i seen the awful camera angles and the every throw is a throw off the back foot. Game is going to flop hardcore, just like every other non NFL football game. Even if it was a good game, it would have still flopped. NFL logo is just to powerful.

So brits computer guys can't develop a good video game? I posted before, Ian Cummings is a soccer fan first and I doubt he or Josh Looman ever played organized football. Developers bring in experts for these things.

The throw off the back foot was done with a user controlled player and all ratings maxed out. I've seen Brett Favre do it a thousand tmes in real life, so it's not impossibe for the best in the game to make that throw.

As far as the camera angles and controls. It's new and different, should be a nice change of pace. As you said, if it was good game, but like Madden/2k, it would flop because of no NFL.

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	Maybe people prejudge cuz its a small video game compay with a small dev team who have never made a sports game. I think that gives people plenty of reasons to question if this game will suck or not.

So you prejudge the game without playing based on it having a small development team? I agree it's a reason to have concerns about the game, but to prejudge and pass on the game at this stage based off that??

# 134 mgoblue678 @ 04/10/10 09:02 PM

I really don't think people should be writing the game completely off just based on one preview which is what alot of people seem to be doing in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I am pretty concerned about some of the things that were brought up in the preview, but we still have to remember this is one person's opinion and all the past previews and hands one from other people before this one seemed to be generally positive. We still have no idea if some of the issues mentioned in the preview could be alleviated on a higher difficulty settings either.

Not to mention like I said before in this thread, I flat out disagree that a couple of negatives in the preview were actually negatives at least to me. The running movement being similar to All-Pro 2k8 is a positive to me, the momentum and inability to stop and turn on the dime seemed much more realistic in that game.

And can people just stop with whole "I knew this game was going to suck because these guys aren't American" crap. How are they any less qualified than an American team if that American team never played organized or higher level football before? In both cases their experience with game of football is still just watching it is as fan.

# 135 Gort77 @ 04/11/10 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mgoblue678


	Not to mention like I said before in this thread, I flat out disagree that a couple of negatives in the preview were actually negatives at least to me. The running movement being similar to All-Pro 2k8 is a positive to me, the momentum and inability to stop and turn on the dime seemed much more realistic in that game.

I have never played APF2k8, but i did play ESPN2k5, and thought it was one of the best football games at the time. One thing we do know is the reviewer did list Madden10 as one of his favorite game. Now im not saying we should ignore everything he said because he likes madden, but for me since i am not a huge fan of madden i do not see his personal commentary on the game to be a big factor in how i feel about the game.

# 136 gr18 @ 04/11/10 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gort77


	I have never played APF2k8, but i did play ESPN2k5, and thought it was one of the best football games at the time. One thing we do know is the reviewer did list Madden10 as one of his favorite game. Now im not saying we should ignore everything he said because he likes madden, but for me since i am not a huge fan of madden i do not see his personal commentary on the game to be a big factor in how i feel about the game.

Unfortunately 2k5 still IS and likely still WILL BE the best football game around.

# 137 Dudd @ 04/11/10 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead


	So brits computer guys can't develop a good video game? I posted before, Ian Cummings is a soccer fan first and I doubt he or Josh Looman ever played organized football.

Damning with faint praise, I do believe. On the other hand, the NHL series, my favorite current sports series, has a former NHL player as a producer and the face of their dev team. A small enough sample size that it's pretty much meaningless, sure, but all else being equal, I'd feel a lot more confident in a game that is made by people who have a deep understanding of the game, which is a lot easier to get if you've spent thousands of hours watching and playing the sport. If the guys at NM have done this, great, I'm positive that you can watch and play football over there, it's just not as likely.

# 138 JayBee74 @ 04/11/10 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudd


	Damning with faint praise, I do believe. On the other hand, the NHL series, my favorite current sports series, has a former NHL player as a producer and the face of their dev team. A small enough sample size that it's pretty much meaningless, sure, but all else being equal, I'd feel a lot more confident in a game that is made by people who have a deep understanding of the game, which is a lot easier to get if you've spent thousands of hours watching and playing the sport. If the guys at NM have done this, great, I'm positive that you can watch and play football over there, it's just not as likely.

Football must be the most complicated and intricate thing in the universe.

# 139 TracerBullet @ 04/12/10 01:23 PM

If anyone is till wondering why Matt chose to play Arcade mode here is what he said to me on the game informer website.

Hey Black Mamba,
When Natural Motion and 505 agreed to the hands-on preview, they explicitly told us that we could only play the game in Arcade mode, as they are "still working on the options for Pro mode." So that's what we did. Hope that clears things up for you,
Matt

Black Mamba205 is my screename btw.

# 140 moylan1234 @ 04/12/10 04:27 PM

the previewer probably could have just told us that in the article instead of making sound like he did have a choice.

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