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# 41 CommunityCollege @ 02/22/10 07:41 PM
watch A-Rod not even be in the top 10 in 3B
 
# 42 Mr. Franchise @ 02/22/10 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brewersfan84
Cano doesn't deserve top 5 after one good season.
So Zobrist and Hill do?....
 
# 43 keymax @ 02/22/10 08:02 PM
To be fair: Zobrist had an out of the world 2009. He had the best WAR in all of baseball.
 
# 44 AInquisition @ 02/22/10 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Franchise
So Zobrist and Hill do?....
Yeah, because they're better.
 
# 45 berenjena @ 02/22/10 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AInquisition
Yeah, because they're better.
Stats to prove it?
 
# 46 burds13 @ 02/22/10 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ty5oke
Last 2 seasons:

R.Cano .297 AVG 83 2B 39 HR 157 RBI
D. Pedroia .311 AVG 102 2B 32 HR 155 RBI
J.Lopez .285 AVG 83 2B 42 HR 185 RBI

I think you Yankee fans are a little bias towards Cano. How come no mention for Jose Lopez??
JOSE LOPEZ?!?!?!

He doesn't play in New York!!!!!!
 
# 47 Mr. Franchise @ 02/22/10 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AInquisition
Yeah, because they're better.
One good season...
 
# 48 CommunityCollege @ 02/22/10 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by berenjena
Stats to prove it?
and a does he also have a ring to prove it?

(sorry had to put in there lol don't flame me, just a joke)
 
# 49 burds13 @ 02/22/10 08:16 PM
Cano's been a pretty poor defensive 2nd baseman since 2007, but he can definitely hit.

He should definitely be top ten, though. I think it's pretty obvious that they weigh defense equally with offense.

Zobrist is a ludicrously good defensive 2nd baseman. Like "best in the bigs" good.
 
# 50 Mr. Franchise @ 02/22/10 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash Davis
Love no mention of Aaron Hill hes better than almost all these people, I bet Adam Lind gets snubbed in DH catagory,

but theyre in east canada and the games made in SD what do u expect...
Cano:
09: 25 HR, 85 RBI, .320/.352/.540
08: 14 HR, 72 RBI, .271/.305/.410
07: 19 HR, 97 RBI, .306/.353/.488

Zobrist:
09: 27 HR, 91 RBI, .297/.405/.543
08: 12 HR, 30 RBI, .253/.339/.505
07: 1 HR, 9 RBI, .155/.184/.206

Hill:
09: 36 HR, 108 RBI, .286/.330/.499
08: 2 HR, 20 RBI, .263/.324/.361
07: 17 HR, 78 RBI, .291/.338/.459

/thread
 
# 51 burds13 @ 02/22/10 08:20 PM
Aaron Hill 2009 OPS = .829 (who knew? I figured he'd be much higher)

I would imagine that last year hurt him in the computer's rankings, but his power numbers fool you a bit. Defensively, he's meh.
 
# 52 burds13 @ 02/22/10 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Franchise
Cano:
09: 25 HR, 85 RBI, .320/.352/.540
08: 14 HR, 72 RBI, .271/.305/.410
07: 19 HR, 97 RBI, .306/.353/.488

Zobrist:
09: 27 HR, 91 RBI, .297/.405/.543
08: 12 HR, 30 RBI, .253/.339/.505
07: 1 HR, 9 RBI, .155/.184/.206

Hill:
09: 36 HR, 108 RBI, .286/.330/.499
08: 2 HR, 20 RBI, .263/.324/.361
07: 17 HR, 78 RBI, .291/.338/.459

/thread
Defensively, it's

Zobrist

Hill








Cano

Again, obviously they really, really value defensive metrics.
 
# 53 AInquisition @ 02/22/10 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Franchise
Cano:
09: 25 HR, 85 RBI, .320/.352/.540
08: 14 HR, 72 RBI, .271/.305/.410
07: 19 HR, 97 RBI, .306/.353/.488

Zobrist:
09: 27 HR, 91 RBI, .297/.405/.543
08: 12 HR, 30 RBI, .253/.339/.505
07: 1 HR, 9 RBI, .155/.184/.206

Hill:
09: 36 HR, 108 RBI, .286/.330/.499
08: 2 HR, 20 RBI, .263/.324/.361
07: 17 HR, 78 RBI, .291/.338/.459

/thread
I thought Hill had a higher OBP, so I'll give you Cano over him, but Zobrist is a beast.
 
# 54 bigfnjoe96 @ 02/22/10 08:25 PM
So if Zobrist is such a great fielder why is his Fielding Ability 56? Obviously his rating was based on his Offensive #'s

 
# 55 Mr. Franchise @ 02/22/10 08:27 PM
And surprisingly Cano has more plate discipline than Hill, also Hill's power numbers are skewed due to the fact that he lead the league in at-bats.

Not trying to be a homer here, BUT COME ON.
 
# 56 keymax @ 02/22/10 08:29 PM
Right never checked Hill's stats. Was fooled by his power numbers. His OPS is lower than Cano's. Thought it might be Yankee's Stadium but his OPS+ still was 12 points lower than Cano's. Defensively it's almost a wash between Hill and Cano with just a slight edge for Hill.
So for 2009:
Zobrist > Cano > Hill
 
# 57 burds13 @ 02/22/10 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfnjoe96
So if Zobrist is such a great fielder why is his Fielding Ability 56?

Utley and Zobrist are beast defensive 2nd basemen... oh, and they're beast offensive 2nd basemen, too. In Zobrist's case, you're probably dealing with a smaller sample size b/c he only really has 1.5 years worth of data, and it's allllll good.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...ition=2B/SS/OF

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...79&position=2B
 
# 58 keymax @ 02/22/10 08:34 PM
When they were pitching around Hill, why is his OBP so poor?
 
# 59 Eman5805 @ 02/22/10 08:36 PM
Certainly looks like they've changed up that weird bouncy batting stance for Ian Kinsler.
 
# 60 burds13 @ 02/22/10 08:36 PM
I've never watched Hill on a consistent basis, but the numbers indicate that he's slightly below average. Not BAD, but not good or great.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...04&position=2B

It's crazy to see his OPS that low after launching 36 bombs.
 


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