NCAA Football 11 News Post

Five Essential Fixes for NCAA Football 11

03:14 PM - November 11, 2009 by RaychelSnr

NCAA Football 10 was a disappointment. While new additions like Team Builder and Season Showdown initially impressed gamers, faulty gameplay mechanics coupled with a lack of collegiate presentation and atmosphere, ultimately doomed the game in many consumers' eyes (myself included). So as college football gears up for its final month before the beginning of bowl season, I thought it would be a good time to look at some things I want to see included in NCAA Football 11.

As a start, I will be outlining the five most important changes that the series needs to make if it is to ever going to become as relevant as it once was on the Playstation 2 and Xbox gaming consoles.

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# 41 ODogg @ 11/12/09 10:38 AM

wow, this is the first year the game has been playable for me on the next-gen. i don't get the skating on ice thing at all...i do agree madden is a lot better and more funner to play though..

# 42 BigDuke @ 11/12/09 11:07 AM

I agree with most of the suggestions, except for the dumbing down of recruiting. I like the recruiting to be as realistic as possible and I think the phone call system achieves that much more so then just dumping points on recruits. It could certainly be refined though, especially when comparing recruits to each other.

I like the coach carousel idea, in addition to adding entire coaching staffs. I think college football is more about the coaches than it is the players. Every year players come and go and every 4-5 years, the entire roster is different. But the one constant for much of that time, at least at successful programs, is the coaches.

I wish there was a way to control all the teams or at least intervene when a team does something I don't like in my dynasty. Like adjust their depth chart, prevent the firing of a coach, etc. Like in Madden if I control all teams, I can ensure realistic draft picks, trades, free agent signees, depth chart, etc.

# 43 da ThRONe @ 11/12/09 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	wow, this is the first year the game has been playable for me on the next-gen. i don't get the skating on ice thing at all...i do agree madden is a lot better and more funner to play though..

Maybe because they move in a very unnatural way.

On a seperate note. I am totally against dumbing down recruiting. It should be as close to real life and as difficult as possible.

# 44 Palo20 @ 11/12/09 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GMEN36


	Why are the white undershirts grey for ? Did they ever send a patch to fix that ?

No they couldn't fix it.

# 45 starsuper10 @ 11/12/09 11:26 AM

I think adding a college version of pro-tak is needed as well. It would add such an extra dimension to game strategy when looking at the run game. Although the blocking assignments are screwed up, planning for runningbacks like Stanford Powerback Toby Gerhart or Clemson speedster CJ Spiller would add some realism to the game. Its also fun to think how the passing game would be effected for those who use the tight end in there passing game.

# 46 rudyjuly2 @ 11/12/09 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	On a seperate note. I am totally against dumbing down recruiting. It should be as close to real life and as difficult as possible.

Some people want recruiting to get deeper, some like it the way it is and some like the quick and simple way the PS2 used to do things. EA will never be able to satisfy everyone but the casual gamer that makes up most of the sales probably doesn't want it too difficult. Other than creating different recruiting engines (with options for us) I don't know if much will change.

Personally I would rather they spend time on a discipline system, formation subs, camera options and extra sliders.

# 47 DJ @ 11/12/09 12:16 PM

Good points. I hope EA actually listens to its consumers and really makes an effort to bring the college atmosphere to life because it's sorely lacking in the 360/PS3 games.

There's only going to be so much done, gameplay wise, because of the time crunch the developers are under. Everyone that says to put in a new engine; that's not going to happen. It'd take way too long and from what the EA guys have said, it's not in the plans as they are just working off what they already have.

I think the best bet at this point, in terms of on-field, is for the developers to just focus on getting the basics down and add in a few things mentioned in the article.

To me, the NCAA series will sell itself more on presentation than gameplay. It's clear EA has the capabilities to give us more, as witnessed by NCAA Basketball, so let's see if they can really bump up the presentation aspects in NCAA 11.

# 48 cjnoles9399 @ 11/12/09 01:02 PM

EA could have just put out NCAA 04-06 on-field with better graphics and a few retooled features plus add ons to dynasty mode. I never went next gen because of recruiting and the player animations look awful. It still baffles me how stuff is missing from the last gen systems.

# 49 ODogg @ 11/12/09 03:40 PM

Oh i agree they run "funny" and it don't look right, just never thought it looked like skating in regards to how skating has referred to football games in the past..

# 50 rudyjuly2 @ 11/12/09 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jusmegamer


	Once again, I can see giving you guys variable game speeds, but the default game speed should stay the same. The game speed is the one thing that they have correct. College sports are more frantic than Pro, that's just the truth. You guys wanting the speed knocked down so it will play like Madden are totally missing the point.

Most people don't understand this concept. NFL players ARE faster than college players but the difference between a fast NFL player and a slow one is not that big. The difference between a fast college player and a slow one can be huge. That gives the college game the perception that it's faster sometimes which is why I agree that NCAA should play fast. Fast (and sometimes small) RBs can excel in NCAA but rarely do in the NFL since it's more of a power running league.

I personally found the Slow speed on Madden really slow. But options makes everyone happy (offline at least).

# 51 ftball11 @ 11/12/09 07:07 PM

Great post! I agree with all five points, including many others listed in the comments. We will just have to wait and see if our voices are heard.

# 52 Hova57 @ 11/13/09 09:04 AM

you know what hurts ncaa football it doesn't have to ability to fix the wrongs of its engine. what i mean is live came out before ncaa basketball so when ncaa b comes out it will have already tweaked some of the bugs that live started with. so its always a year behind where as basketball games are pretty much on same time line in development

# 53 ODogg @ 11/13/09 04:53 PM

i agree, they should bring back HFA and the camera shake, those were great features that made the game feel so much more emotional!!

# 54 AndyP @ 11/14/09 08:48 AM

I disagree with the notion of turning the recruiting part of dynasty mode into some cpu automated process. I enjoy recruiting...

The presentation suggestions are ok, but I'm in favor of keeping what is there and adding to it. I've always liked seeing the snapshots of games at the end of the week and stuff like that. But the weekly video wrap show is essential. However, I prefer the way ESPN 2k5 did it with the dialogue context sensitive - Randy Moss caught the touchdown pass rather than "the wide receiver caught the touchdown pass".

# 55 Raven Nation42 @ 11/14/09 01:16 PM

Good article and interesting points.Just want to chime in that would be nice if they readd option to let you do a playoff or tournament.

# 56 Eski33 @ 11/14/09 02:53 PM

The biggest thing between college and professional sports is tradition and pageantry. I am not saying pro teams don't have tradition but typically tradition in the pro ranks is attributed to winning. College is a whole different story.

EA had many positive things working on the PS2 / XBox versions -- Team-specific entrances, team-specific score celebrations, classic teams and uniforms, etc. It is confusing as to why these things are missing on more powerful consoles.

For me, I don't get much into the recruiting aspect. I typically play single seasons but from all the forums I read, the recruiting needs a fix for those that want that immersion.

Things I want fixed:
1) Presentation -- NCAA 05 (I believe) had a pre-game show with Lee Corso doing the mascot head picks. It wasn't awesome but it was a cool touch. Why can't EA add ESPN, ESPN U, ESPN 2 presentation and could also include ABC Saturday night games.

2) College Gameday -- I don't expect an hour show but at least highlight key conference / national games with post-game highlights and stats

3) Graphics -- I don't hate the graphics but I still hate how you cannot see pride stickers from the normal camera angle. I would also like to see the little pieces of rubber bounce up when guys drag their feet AND water splash up in rainy games...

4) Dynamic weather -- Weather changing during the game (as long as it isn't overdone)

5) Dynamic team updates aka NCAA Basketball -- Understand that EA cannot add player names but it would be cool to see teams like TCU and Boise properly represented...Every year, there are surprise teams that make a run that are rated low in August...

5A) Bring back classic teams, uniforms, team-specific entrances, more bands with more school-specific formations....

# 57 mjussawalla @ 11/15/09 10:42 AM

IMO key fixes are:
-Presentation (TV style, plus more team celebrations, bowl patches, etc)
-Fatigue
-Substitutions
-Real physics

# 58 headsigh @ 11/15/09 03:08 PM

Eski33: on the ps2 versions of NCAA 09/10/08, Lee Corso did the mascot head as well.

# 59 Skyboxer @ 11/15/09 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by klb835


	I stopped reading after you said madden has given us the best presentation since nfl2k5? which madden game u play?

He's right...
It is the best since then.

# 60 Skyboxer @ 11/15/09 04:06 PM

Until Madden and or NCAA get rid ot TOTALLY the magnet blocking I don't care what they do.
So sick of being 3 yards away from a O player to just slide /turn towards them and get engaged in a block even though I was running dead on to the ball carrier with nothing between us.

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