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Czar checks in once again, like only Da_Czar can, with this NBA Live 10 OS exclusive video, Czarisode 1: Season 2 - "The Takeover".

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# 141 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TalenT
"The net seems a'ight to me fellas"
LOL I love that part.
Welcome to the OS TalenT... I got a chuckle out of that one. It was OS netgate before i went up there LOL
 
# 142 DubTrey1 @ 09/10/09 01:15 AM
Tremendous job Czar.....like always.
 
# 143 Behindshadows @ 09/10/09 01:16 AM
Great Job Czar, it's no wonder they got you on the ticket. Keep it up, can't wait to view part 2.
 
# 144 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HMcCoy
Exactly my point. No biggie or gamekiller, just a different brand of player control. Lives rise from the ashes is going to be based on that change I think. Right on cue, 2K has taken away control while EA has added to it...and I think ALOT of people are going to jump ship based on that fact.

Very shrewd plan of attack by Beluba and co.
It may not be exactly where you want it. but shaq and other lumbering bigs don't feel like they stop on a dime...in COMPARISON with some other smaller/quicker players. Everyone has their own momentum so maybe it doesn't apply enough for some in certain instances but your not going to feel the same control for shaq like you do cp3... not nearly as responsive.

But I do hear what your saying and don't disagree just saying there is a different feeling to be had there at least
 
# 145 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Beluba
The guys working on locomotion spent A LOT of time finding the right balance between responsiveness and momentum when tuning the bigs. You probably can't really tell from the video, even though czar was trying to demo with Dwight, but trust me you'll feel it immediately. I have a feeling that when the demo drops, the complaint that bigs can seemingly turn on a dime will quickly disappear. And people concerned about the apparent lack of defense will also see that's a non-issue as well.
If I can piggy back here. think about it like this . If you had 25 possessions on offense. A great defense will still break down a certain amount of those possession in real life... even a stalwart defensive team will break down. So when playing the game on all star and above 17-18 of the possessions your forced to take a jumper or challenged shot. the others are the times you can get to the rack and actually have a chance to get a PIP...


However my job if I'm trying to show you offense in a video is to play until I can capture those 5-8 possessions where I can finish or break down the d because i am trying to show you that it can be done and how to do it..

Capturing is a beast man because on those 5-8 possession where I do break my man what if i hit the wrong shot button and layup rather than dunk or drop the controller or whatever the case maybe..

On just about every video someone is scoring which means the defense was out of position or just on of those occassion where the cpu had a let down.... It would be no fun showing you the 8-10 times I tried that move and got stuffed...then it would be like Booo He sucks why can't he score...

anyway just my two cents

I took more jumpers in live 10 than any other nba game I have played. It really a mid range game. I was sooo excited when I got a dunk or layup cause you don't make it there too often so you need to make it count when you do..
 
# 146 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JerseySuave4
and thats totally understandable. But i notice in other vids the lack of defense and the reason i brought it up after watch this was that it seems that the defense gives the offense too much respect and it seems like its easy to get space to get shots off. I might just be looking into it too much.
I'm not saying the defense is perfect by any means... but you don't see ton's of dunks in my captures for a reason.. I tried to capture everything on all star level which means it took me forever to get good stuff on offense sometimes.

It has been widely reported that most of the other live vids for offense are captured on a level below all star which is the recommended level. When you see all the contact animations and how difficult it can be to get past that ( not every time sometimes it does break down) You might have a different opinions... I'm as hard core as the next guy.... but the celtics and spurs do still get dunked on.... Layups still do happen in the NBA ... Even in the finals not every shot is contested.... breakdowns happen and so it is with Live 10..

I did not get the chance to stress test the help d or anything else but it did not stick out to me as broken because i was not just tip toeing thru the tulips..
 
# 147 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NINJAK2
Good to hear. I have no doubt about the D in Live. The only thing I didn't like about the D in Live was that electric slide defense that would happen when you had clearly beaten some one with a first step-they would slide right back in front of you and cut you off. I have not seen that yet in any of the vids thus far.
I have seen it one time ninjak and it was after the fact in a capture....
 
# 148 MarvellousOne @ 09/10/09 01:36 AM
Czar! loving the Czarisode much info was presented there on the controls which I am definitely feeling, there is a lot of moves I can see being pulled off with this new dribble system, maybe next time you will give us a little hesitation move, crossover, with a spin to the rack, which reminds me how does the spin move work?

Great video as always mad props man, keep feeding us you know we hungry round here.
 
# 149 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chadskee
I do agree slightly that the animations do look "goofy" at times and not 100% lifelike.

But I think it comes as a cost for all the control and responsiveness. 2k will look more fluid because it will be, but the control probably won't be there.

The movement has gotten "ungoofy" enough since last year for me to be totally ok with it because the control is what's important.
this.....

If they let you break out of anything at anytime how can you then complain that doesn't look right. Of course it doesn't because in reallife sometimes you have to wait for the ball before you can make a new decision. We wanted control .. they have delivered that but something has to give..
 
# 150 23 @ 09/10/09 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Da_Czar
this.....

If they let you break out of anything at anytime how can you then complain that doesn't look right. Of course it doesn't because in reallife sometimes you have to wait for the ball before you can make a new decision. We wanted control .. they have delivered that but something has to give..
The melo clip scared me in the sense of the freedom of the controls

You can see how the defender had one chance not to mess up or he was done...

I can see that on ball D wont be a cake walk either, but its insane what you can do with the controls
 
# 151 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 23









I love how arenas come to a 1-2 stop to hit the J... Also loved the fact that the defender didn't go to where arenas was or follow him but took the correct defensive angle to attempt to cut him off. now imagine if I anticipate that and then step back away to the left....Nasty even more separation from the D.... Those defensive angles make all the difference.

also i saw someone complain that randolph was out of position on that play on defense. He was guarding someone in the corner and after I Passed gasol I saw him and crossed to the left quickly to go away from the help and then lifted on em... It wasn't his fault ....I'm just nice...LOLOLOL (total Joke) but i am nice though..LOL
 
# 152 HMcCoy @ 09/10/09 01:46 AM
O.M.G! I got the game! Oh! I'm niiiice! Lol...

I love how the fact that the dribble moves are so quick, you don't have that moment of lag before you start your drive after sizing up. You can really see it on that last D Rose drive. Dribble...explode. Wooo.

Hey Czar, how is the contact under the rim? Mo Williams and Brons drives were both contested at the beginning of the vid, but on the last three, the defenders jumped, but none of them seemed to create any contact. Same too with the penetration in general...there seems to be little resistance from defenders trying to defend the layup...they just run alongside, and then jump and swipe at the end. Can you give us the scoop on collision detection? Any grabbing, riding, or any other contact on drives? Is the on-ball defender out of the play completely once he's beaten?

Thanks again, man...
 
# 153 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 23


did yall see that baller hitch in the mellow jumper ??? I love those lil "moves" that you do in real life. You can do that by changing the timing on when you start your jumper. I also love to just tap right stick back and then immediately go into the jumper to add a lil hitch hesi to my pull up on occasion.
 
# 154 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AD2084
Czar! loving the Czarisode much info was presented there on the controls which I am definitely feeling, there is a lot of moves I can see being pulled off with this new dribble system, maybe next time you will give us a little hesitation move, crossover, with a spin to the rack, which reminds me how does the spin move work?

Great video as always mad props man, keep feeding us you know we hungry round here.
you caught me AD2084 I had a section on there about moves on the run that is where the spin comes in by holding the right stick up.... what happened was some of captures had too many players in the gym in the way and you couldn't see my examples.... by the time i saw that i was already back home so we had to skip that part of the vid. I figured I could cover it later as its only a few moves...
 
# 155 Bornindamecca @ 09/10/09 01:56 AM
Telestrator, you gotta give us a vid on Defense, man. No one has told us how the defensive system even works yet. That's part of the reason people are asking crazy questions based off of a highlight vid(!).

Just the idea of complaining about D in a highlight vid is bizarre.

Love the way that reactionary cross looked. You can see Z-Bo try to adjust before realizing he's out of the play. That's some slick stuff.
 
# 156 Arod2k9 @ 09/10/09 01:58 AM
Great Video and lots of info which is good! One question Czar, do the player models look right in terms of height and proportional to their environment? I feel as Lebron should looker taller and heavier, as I have never really like Live's player models (they look like 12 year olds, lol). Mcgrady has some long legs in real life but in the video he looked like 5'11 instead of 6'8! Does anybody else feels like that or maybe I'm used to body types in 2K franchise.

Thanks
 
# 157 AI3 @ 09/10/09 01:59 AM
Looks nice!
Peja looking like a ghost in the Hangar though. O.o

Can't wait for the demo, but i cant get it right away since don't have my PS3, it broke.
 
# 158 23 @ 09/10/09 01:59 AM
Cant see much here but

 
# 159 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by HMcCoy
O.M.G! I got the game! Oh! I'm niiiice! Lol...

I love how the fact that the dribble moves are so quick, you don't have that moment of lag before you start your drive after sizing up. You can really see it on that last D Rose drive. Dribble...explode. Wooo.

Hey Czar, how is the contact under the rim? Mo Williams and Brons drives were both contested at the beginning of the vid, but on the last three, the defenders jumped, but none of them seemed to create any contact. Same too with the penetration in general...there seems to be little resistance from defenders trying to defend the layup...they just run alongside, and then jump and swipe at the end. Can you give us the scoop on collision detection? Any grabbing, riding, or any other contact on drives? Is the on-ball defender out of the play completely once he's beaten?

Thanks again, man...
HmcCoy its not perfect but there can be a LOT of contact when your going to the basket... So much so that when you catch the d out of position and your able to break your man off the dribble it gets very exciting because you want to make the right move since it doesn't or didn't to me happen every play down..

the games were so intense that it wasn't like i was like Ohoh i think i'm getting to the basket too much ( again i didn't have months to play just 2.5 days so after a ton of play this could be different)

It was like whew we needed that .. if you know what I mean. I at no time felt like it was an issue. In fact count the number of dunks you see in these videos especially tomorrow... practically every highlight I captured will be used in the video you saw or the one i will post tomorrow. And note the teams on the floor when these defensive "breakdowns" happen...

individual momentum really is a game changer though because tonight you might have a stiff guarding your main player and your cutting him up and depending on the help d ratings of his teammates you my have a lot of layups tonight. But tomorrow night your playing a guy with great lateral quicks and tremendous team help defense so that will be different. But As I said there is some randomness in there. The cpu play much more human like (my opinion only) so even the best defense breaks down but you MUST take advantage of those opportunities because for ME it wasn't an all game easy score experience....

it will take a TON of gameplay hours for me to "figure" this game out because of the differences each matchup brings...gain just my opinion from a short time playing and capturing the game.
 
# 160 Da_Czar @ 09/10/09 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bornindamecca
Telestrator, you gotta give us a vid on Defense, man. No one has told us how the defensive system even works yet. That's part of the reason people are asking crazy questions based off of a highlight vid(!).

Just the idea of complaining about D in a highlight vid is bizarre.

Love the way that reactionary cross looked. You can see Z-Bo try to adjust before realizing he's out of the play. That's some slick stuff.
I really wish I would have thought of that when i was there Born.. truly It would have been so timely to do so.... hopefully they are able to send me the game early and i can get crackin on that before the game ships... would absolutely love to show what happens the other uncaptured plays...
 


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