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Fight Night Round 4 Heavyweights Revealed (IGN)

07:26 PM - March 27, 2009 by lamoyou318

IGN has revealed some of the Fight Night Round 4 heavyweights.

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	"Now we have a small bit of proof for that claim with our reveal of seven out of the eight heavyweight boxers available. These massive mounds of muscle can take a beating and deal one out just as well with their more than 200 pound frames."

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# 21 aholbert32 @ 03/28/09 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darxide


	Just adding the face feature with the camera is good enough for me. It pretty much allows to put put any fighter in the game you want. EA really did try to get a ton of fighters- as for budget, it's worth it to pay guys like Ali and Foreman gobs of cash for thier likeness. Is it worth it (or fair) to pay the same amounts of money for David Haye? Heck no. Fighters like that should be begging EA to add them for free. In fact, there were some fighters that did just that, and ended up in the game. Also, consider that since there are more weightclasses this time around, their budget is going to be stretched this time around.

Dont get me wrong I dont think Haye and Foreman should be paid the same. Lets say EA has 2 mil left to spend. Lets say Foreman costs 2 mil for his likeness and Haye wants 700k, Vlad wants 1 and Arreola wants 200k. I would rather have Haye, Vlad and Arreola than Big George. Its possible that Haye wanted a ridiculous amount but I doubt it. Its more likely that EA preferred getting the big name than signing boxers who are more relevant to today's boxing.

# 22 SHAKYR @ 03/28/09 12:31 PM

The rumor is some fighters(Rahman) wouldn't be in the game if they weren't on the cover.

# 23 aholbert32 @ 03/28/09 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAKYR


	The rumor is some fighters(Rahman) wouldn't be in the game if they weren't on the cover.

LOL...thats hilarious.

# 24 NYG_Meth @ 03/28/09 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Darxide


	Just adding the face feature with the camera is good enough for me. It pretty much allows to put put any fighter in the game you want.

Is this a confirmed feature?

# 25 TequILLa @ 03/28/09 12:47 PM

DLC boxers, ps3/360, 2 millions download a piece averabe could end up more, EA makes up for cost

# 26 SHAKYR @ 03/28/09 12:52 PM

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	LOL...thats hilarious.

Exactly, I was saying to myself whatda!

# 27 LP @ 03/28/09 01:22 PM

I am severely disappointed in this heavyweight roster so far. I don't care much about heavyweights, but I sure hope the other weight classes don't follow this trend. I know it really isn't fair to compare this with the UFC Undisputed roster, but these two games will probably be competing for peoples money.

I really hope they come through with some good light heavy, super middle, and middleweights. Pavlik, Calzaghe, Miranda, Abraham, Kessler, and Froch would be nice.

# 28 aholbert32 @ 03/28/09 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LP


	I am severely disappointed in this heavyweight roster so far. I don't care much about heavyweights, but I sure hope the other weight classes don't follow this trend. I know it really isn't fair to compare this with the UFC Undisputed roster, but these two games will probably be competing for peoples money. I really hope they come through with some good light heavy, super middle, and middleweights. Pavlik, Calzaghe, Miranda, Abraham, Kessler, and Froch would be nice.

Pavlik, Calzaghe and Abraham were in Prizefighter so there is a good chance they wont be in this game because of the exclusive deals.

# 29 Darxide @ 03/28/09 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Pavlik, Calzaghe and Abraham were in Prizefighter so there is a good chance they wont be in this game because of the exclusive deals.

Abraham didn't have an exclusive deal with 2K, I dunno about the other two.

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Dont get me wrong I dont think Haye and Foreman should be paid the same. Lets say EA has 2 mil left to spend. Lets say Foreman costs 2 mil for his likeness and Haye wants 700k, Vlad wants 1 and Arreola wants 200k. I would rather have Haye, Vlad and Arreola than Big George. Its possible that Haye wanted a ridiculous amount but I doubt it.

Maybe, but they rarely deal directly with the fighters. Brizzo even said that some fighters expressed interest in being in the game for free after the game released, but, he said it's incredibly tough to talk directly to a fighter about business matters.

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Its more likely that EA preferred getting the big name than signing boxers who are more relevant to today's boxing.

That's because the big names will ALWAYS be relevant to boxing. There's no guarantee that Haye, Arreola will even be relevant next year. Spending money on a fighter no one will care about next year over a legend/superstar is a waste.

# 30 aholbert32 @ 03/28/09 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Darxide


	Abraham didn't have an exclusive deal with 2K, I dunno about the other two. Maybe, but they rarely deal directly with the fighters. Brizzo even said that some fighters expressed interest in being in the game for free after the game released, but, he said it's incredibly tough to talk directly to a fighter about business matters. That's because the big names will ALWAYS be relevant to boxing. There's no guarantee that Haye, Arreola will even be relevant next year. Spending money on a fighter no one will care about next year over a legend/superstar is a waste.

Good to know about Abraham.

I dont know if I believe that. I believe you but not Brizzo. There are 5 or 6 major boxing promoters (Goosen, Golden Boy, Main Events, King, Shaw and Arum). You are telling me someone from EA couldnt call a promoter or their manager and say we are interested in paying a fighter money to appear in the game. Especially when the manager/promoter is getting a cut?

I have a problem with that. If this was strictly a legends game I could understand that approach but its not. I know that Legends have their appeal but there are plenty of people who want current fighters too. ****, I'm just asking for 50%. Keep Ali and Tyson. Keep Lennox. But give us some fighters who matter today. EA is trying to tell us that they could only get permission from 2 current heavyweights?

# 31 ss7falcon @ 03/28/09 07:07 PM

Why can't EA just strike up a deal with promotion companies like 2k did with Don King? Thats how 2k got a good mix of current champions, contenders and prospects. Just about every boxer in King's stable was in the game.

All EA would need to do is make a deal with Golden Boy Promotions and Top rank and you get about 75%+ of the current fighters people care about.

http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/f...ters_index.htm
http://www.toprank.com/fighters

Eddie Chambers as the only current Heavyweight is a joke.

# 32 Darxide @ 03/28/09 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Good to know about Abraham. I dont know if I believe that. I believe you but not Brizzo. There are 5 or 6 major boxing promoters (Goosen, Golden Boy, Main Events, King, Shaw and Arum). You are telling me someone from EA couldnt call a promoter or their manager and say we are interested in paying a fighter money to appear in the game. Especially when the manager/promoter is getting a cut?

That's exactly what they did, and that's what the issue is. Dealing with promoter and managers is a headache. That rumor Shakyr mentioned about Hasim Rahman? Brizzo told me that it was his management team that wanted Rahman to be on the cover. I'd bet Rahman never even knew EA wanted him in the game.

# 33 ss7falcon @ 03/28/09 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darxide


	That's exactly what they did, and that's what the issue is. Dealing with promoter and managers is a headache. That rumor Shakyr mentioned about Hasim Rahman? Brizzo told me that it was his management team that wanted Rahman to be on the cover. I'd bet Rahman never even knew EA wanted him in the game.

Thats because it sounds like their trying to sign boxers individually. It doesn't work, we end up with the same legends in the game we had in knockout kings 2004. I know i'm not the only boxing fan that wants a current sim of the sport.

The first thing they need to do is sit down with GBP/Top rank and sign a license deal. I know boxing promoters seem ******** sometimes, but they should have every incentive to get this deal done. Free advertising for them and name recognition and expanded fan base for the fighters. EA could even call the game Golden Boy/Top rank presents Fight Night Round 4 if thats what it takes.

This is the same thing every other sport franchise does, that is why rosters are never an issue for UFC, NFL, MLB games

# 34 SHAKYR @ 03/29/09 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ss7falcon


	Thats because it sounds like their trying to sign boxers individually. It doesn't work, we end up with the same legends in the game we had in knockout kings 2004. I know i'm not the only boxing fan that wants a current sim of the sport. The first thing they need to do is sit down with GBP/Top rank and sign a license deal. I know boxing promoters seem ******** sometimes, but they should have every incentive to get this deal done. Free advertising for them and name recognition and expanded fan base for the fighters. EA could even call the game Golden Boy/Top rank presents Fight Night Round 4 if thats what it takes. This is the same thing every other sport franchise does, that is why rosters are never an issue for UFC, NFL, MLB games

You really don't want to here nothing anybody has to say...huh? It's easier for EA to sign some fighters talking to them individually, but when they promoters and managers get involved it's hard to negotiated a reasonable amount. If EA was able to sign a deal with Top Rank or a promotional company we will be right back here arguing about why they only got Top Ranked boxers in the game.
Many of these boxers are self managed too. Many people are talking with feeling and not there heads. EA is trying to make a profit. The production of this game cost money.

# 35 fistofrage @ 03/29/09 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAKYR


	You really don't want to here nothing anybody has to say...huh? It's easier for EA to sign some fighters talking to them individually, but when they promoters and managers get involved it's hard to negotiated a reasonable amount. If EA was able to sign a deal with Top Rank or a promotional company we will be right back here arguing about why they only got Top Ranked boxers in the game. Many of these boxers are self managed too. Many people are talking with feeling and not there heads. EA is trying to make a profit. The production of this game cost money.

Thats exactly it. 2K paid Don King $1M to be in the game and bring his boxers with him. I'd rather have them spend the money on testers and programmers to make this the best boxing it can be.

Hopefully they have a robust create a boxer and you can put created boxers into your career mode.

Honestly 40 boxers is about as good as you'll get although Knock out Kings Rosters blew this away.. I just hope they have a ton of guys in career mode that mimick real life boxers but aren't named exactly the same or look exactly like them.

# 36 aholbert32 @ 03/29/09 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAKYR


	You really don't want to here nothing anybody has to say...huh? It's easier for EA to sign some fighters talking to them individually, but when they promoters and managers get involved it's hard to negotiated a reasonable amount. If EA was able to sign a deal with Top Rank or a promotional company we will be right back here arguing about why they only got Top Ranked boxers in the game. Many of these boxers are self managed too. Many people are talking with feeling and not there heads. EA is trying to make a profit. The production of this game cost money.

I think you are missing what most people here are saying. I'm not saying that EA should spend a ton of money on signing fighters...im questioning the fighters they choose to spend money on. Heavyweight James Toney over the Kitchckos, Haye or Arreola? Middleweight Toney as a legend I could understand but Heavyweight Toney?

I still question the Foreman signing. I dont see how spending money on Foreman is smart from a business or game perspective.

1) I dont see more people buying the game because Foreman is in the game. People will buy it because of Ali and Tyson but Foreman does have that type of following. People overseas would buy the game if Vlad or Haye was in the game because they have a following there.

2) Foreman doesnt come cheap. I dealt with his people on a potential TV deal and he was expensive as hell. It was a different deal than a video game licensing deal but Foreman thinks very highly of himself and isnt cheap. I cant believe that Vlad was more expensive than Foreman.

3)EA had no trouble contacting the K brothers a few years back. There management hasnt changed and they were champs back then so I dont know why it would be different now.

With that said, If CAB is good with likenesses and fight styles, I'll be happy. If they have a name database that calls out a name, ill be overjoyed.

# 37 fistofrage @ 03/29/09 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	With that said, If CAB is good with likenesses and fight styles, I'll be happy. If they have a name database that calls out a name, ill be overjoyed.

I swear if its still the Assassin fighting the Assassin every fight, that would be a game killer to me.

I can't stand "The assassin, punches the assassin, the assassin looks to be taking too much damage from the assassin. The assassin is about ready to go down."

Which assassin? My assassin or the other assassin?

# 38 sva91 @ 03/29/09 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fistofrage


	I swear if its still the Assassin fighting the Assassin every fight, that would be a game killer to me. I can't stand "The assassin, punches the assassin, the assassin looks to be taking too much damage from the assassin. The assassin is about ready to go down." Which assassin? My assassin or the other assassin?

I've always wished they would allow us to cut and paste portions of names that are in the game and loop them all together to create a new name. For example: Using Tyson and Winky, Tyson= SUN + Winky= EE You now have the name: SONNY

I know its probably much harder than it seems to implement in a video game, but man it would pretty much solve the problem of using generic names.

# 39 ss7falcon @ 03/29/09 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAKYR


	You really don't want to here nothing anybody has to say...huh? It's easier for EA to sign some fighters talking to them individually, but when they promoters and managers get involved it's hard to negotiated a reasonable amount.

I'm not sure exactly what you disagree with me on...

I just think, if possible, they could make a much better sim of the current sport with the help of promoting companies.

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	If EA was able to sign a deal with Top Rank or a promotional company we will be right back here arguing about why they only got Top Ranked boxers in the game.

Did you see the links I posted with GBP and Top Rank's stable? Those 2 companies represent most of the popular boxers/champions today.

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	EA is trying to make a profit. The production of this game cost money.

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I'm not buying this either, every other sports game has to pay for a license with some organization and they still seem to make a profit.

I doubt Arum or DLH are arrogant enough to think they can charge more for a license deal than the NFL, NBA, or MLB. And Fight night round 3 sold 4.24 million copies across platforms while NBA 2k8 sold 1.89 million.

I'm not trying to sound like a ***** of this game, I love the series. I'm just frustrated that stupid decisions in boxing are overflowing form sanctioning bodies, judges, and promoters to even video games

# 40 Pappy Knuckles @ 03/29/09 08:08 PM

Damn I was hoping Haye would be in this. I'm pretty disappointed with this omission.

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