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NFL Head Coach 09 Patch Details

02:48 PM - August 22, 2008 by Josh_Looman

Note: Below are the patch details from the Lead Designer of NFL Head Coach 09, Josh Looman.

I got the Ok to officially say that we are doing a patch. I've wanted to say that for a week, but we had to make sure of a few things first.

Here's an update on our progress with the patch:

We have fixed the Play Creator/Injury Bug.

We have added the ability to call plays during the 2 minute drill. You guys better thank Bekins for this. Normally, this would have been a feature that would have taken forever to get in, but the kid killed himself to put it in there to help everyone out.

We have added Favre's stats back in the game.

We fixed a bug you guys didn't know about that allows me to change team philosophies in the roster update. Woo-Hoo! This lets me get the teams where I think they should be and correct some ratings issues that way.

We fixed the contract bug (where scrub players would ask for a ton of money when re-signing).

We fixed the Draft Day trading bug (where you could force every team to trade their pick by asking them to trade and then backing out)

We fixed the ability to change a QB to WR and change him back to QB again.

We fixed the bug where teams would not kick a FG at the end of the half.

We are investigating a fix to make fumbles better. Staymates found out that a fatigued player would be getting larger penalties than expected to their attributes, including their carry rating. We are greatly reducing this so that fumbles should happen less. This is going to need some more testing since a lot of different factors influence fumble chances.

We are also investigating a fix for CPU teams subbing out fatigued players quicker in-game so that backups get some carries. Our thresholds for subbing a guy out were too low, so we are raising those. This also needs mucho testing.

We are fixing any crashes we can reproduce including the issues found on PS3.

I don't have a date for when this will be delivered to you (we are working very quickly). Once we are done with it, it typically takes a couple of weeks to get through everybody else before it makes it's way to you.

As I've said before, I'm sorry for these bugs. As you can see, we are making it right.

*** Added Wednesday, August 27th ***

We are also fixing an issue with RFAs that was noticed.

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# 161 gatorelk @ 09/11/08 01:38 AM

so now i have remembered. in one game i was given the defining moment to go for it on 4th down at the end of a game in order to keep the ball and run out the clock. i decided to go for it so i called my play and then my QB proceeded to wait till the 2 minute warning and not run the play, which makes sense. however, because of this i lost a whole bunch of approval b/c it said i failed the moment. even tho i ended up getting the first down after the 2 min warning. also i assume other people have noticed this but i havent seen anyone say anything about it. when i create a play on defense that it supposed to be a type of cover 3 the preview of the play does not show the proper play. it shows the guy who is supposed to cover the middle third as covering the left third with the other defended. so far i havent learned the play enough to tell if they actually run it right, but it is really wierd to look at. hopefully all these can be fixed...

# 162 delusional @ 09/12/08 03:14 PM

I tried glancing over this thread and don't think I seen it but will the sub settings be fixed for certain positions when supersimming games?

Like HBs DTs etc? ( my back ups never see the field )

# 163 Josh_Looman @ 09/12/08 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by karmageddon28


	I was wondering about if you've noticed or been looking into what I can only describe as CPU Hyperspeed Phenomenon. It first happened in the year 2 playoffs. http:/www.operationsports.com/forums/nfl-head-coach/267622-glitch-fixed.html I'd tried to include a link to a previous post on with a better description. I apologize in advance for the tone of the post. It had just happened and it really left me frustrated. Now I finished the playoffs, simmed, then got to week 2 of the regular season. Then it happened again against the Patriots. Now, I know the patriots are good, so I was going into it for anything from a hard game to totally getting crushed. Getting beat wasn't the problem. It was the way in which it happened. This time, from the start of the game I could tell something was off. All the CPU players were moving at what had to be at least 2x-4x the speed of mine. Linebackers that were a good 10+ yards off the line were beating my HB to handoffs. Their DT were chasing down speedy WR. If I was lucky enough to get a pass off, every player on the CPU would be with converging on the unfortunate WR in an instant. On offense, it was even more noticeable. The CPU WR, would move so fast none of my defenders would be near them... ever. Brady was 53-57 passing because nobody could ever be covered. One of the match ups I saw the most was their slot guy and Urlacher. I check out their depth cart and saw he had 86 Speed, 88 acc, 84 agility and 64 route running. So, he and Urlacher should have been a pretty fair match up. But if he'd make a cut in by the right hash, in an instant he'd be by the left side numbers while Urlacher was still by the right hash. It wasn't just the speed they moved at, but also how. Even while just standing there and reading the defense, Brady was bouncing up and down like he was speed. The only thing I could compare it to would be if you ever watched a replay on Madden or NCAA in Fast forward, you know, how it's still look like the game, but with the choppy and unnatural movement from being in fast forward. Outside of the actual on the field issues, and of course the known bugs you've been fixing, I really love the game. I know when it comes to the game play, the criticism can't be directed 100% to you guys, since you really were only able to lipstick the pig that was madden 08. Even if there isn't a way to fix it, if you could even just figure out causes it to slip into the CPU Hyperspeed and maybe how to avoid it, I'd really appreciate it. This game so close to the game that I've been hoping for since I first played FOF as a kid. It's so close to being perfect. I guess that's why it seems people get frustrated when these odd things happen. So, don't feel like any criticism you get is not appreciating your work or the game. Perhaps, we're appreciating too much. So take it as a complement that so many people care about what you've the created.

I've never seen anything like this. That is truly freaky.

# 164 tylerd02 @ 09/12/08 06:00 PM

Is there anyway we can get this closed till there's new info on the patch. I think there is already a thread for glitches/bugs.

# 165 Hammerhunker @ 09/13/08 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tylerd02


	Is there anyway we can get this closed till there's new info on the patch. I think there is already a thread for glitches/bugs.

Nobody likes a tattletale Danny.

# 166 delusional @ 09/15/08 01:07 AM

ETA?

# 167 HardcoreNinja69 @ 09/15/08 04:00 PM

I truely appreciate the dedication involved in getting this patch out..I am waiting patiently (was as patient as possible) for it to be ready. Every day I put in Head Coach and hope the update screen pops up....but nada so far.

# 168 sammage @ 09/15/08 05:54 PM

In another thread today Josh said the patch went to QA late last week and it normally takes 2 weeks to get through QA. So we're in the 2 week window now.

# 169 Dbrentonbuck @ 09/16/08 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sammage


	In another thread today Josh said the patch went to QA late last week and it normally takes 2 weeks to get through QA. So we're in the 2 week window now.

Yes but isn't that their own internal QA? It then has to be submitted to MS and Sony and so aren't we looking at closer to a one month window?

# 170 blessed1stylez @ 09/16/08 07:03 PM

anyone having problems with kickers kicking lame duck easy field goals...they kick them straight forward and not up in the air? anyone have this issue? i kept having to go for 4th downs because of it...the computer had the same issue...the only time it would go in is if it were an extra point distance kick....i dont see this as something mentioned in the bug fixes

# 171 KillyKillall @ 09/16/08 09:06 PM

Josh,

Would it be possible to get a list of which bugs addressed on the first post update take effect only in a new career vs. a current ongoing career that is patched?

# 172 Josh_Looman @ 09/19/08 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KillyKillall


	Josh, Would it be possible to get a list of which bugs addressed on the first post update take effect only in a new career vs. a current ongoing career that is patched?

From what I've been told, every fix will apply to already started careers.

# 173 Josh_Looman @ 09/19/08 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dbrentonbuck


	Yes but isn't that their own internal QA? It then has to be submitted to MS and Sony and so aren't we looking at closer to a one month window?

Nope, it's already been sent off to PS3 and Microsoft.

We had a little setback over some version number thing, but that shouldn't take too long.

My best guess would be a week from Monday or Tuesday.

If nothing else holds it up.

# 174 delusional @ 09/19/08 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh_Looman


	Nope, it's already been sent off to PS3 and Microsoft. We had a little setback over some version number thing, but that shouldn't take too long. My best guess would be a week from Monday or Tuesday. If nothing else holds it up.

End of the month then

# 175 MGH888 @ 09/23/08 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blessed1stylez


	anyone having problems with kickers kicking lame duck easy field goals...they kick them straight forward and not up in the air? anyone have this issue? i kept having to go for 4th downs because of it...the computer had the same issue...the only time it would go in is if it were an extra point distance kick....i dont see this as something mentioned in the bug fixes

yes yes yes

# 176 DevilRay @ 11/09/08 07:19 PM

Is there a patch for the PS3? I haven't played this games since September, but if there has been a patch delivered for the PS3 I might give another try.

# 177 mercalnd @ 11/10/08 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilRay


	Is there a patch for the PS3? I haven't played this games since September, but if there has been a patch delivered for the PS3 I might give another try.

Yes the patch was released for both systems.