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Old 03-05-2017, 07:20 PM   #273
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Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

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Yes, i hope i'm wrong but i'm confident it will be relatively the same!
I have only a guess, but with Reynolds and Plesac replacing Karros and Psycho, that would lead me to believe Matty had to get some work in also. At least I hope so.
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Old 03-05-2017, 07:30 PM   #274
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Sorry if I mentioned this before as I can't remember if I posted this or not but SCEA... seriously? I'm as in love with your game as anyone but this is going to be a huge eyesore for me. For years now SCEA has left the fence (where you can see from the street into Wrigley) in the game although its been gone for a few years in real life. Us Cubs fans have pointed this out and SCEA finally addressed it... but this is what they did?



I'm still going to hold out a little hope that this looks better once it's released. If they would simply make it so that it doesn't run up to the exposed bricks that would help a lot. I fully expect the next comment about this to be that I'm making a big deal out of nothing. But for someone that will play 81+ games a year at Wrigley and see plenty of balls go over that fence, ugh, it sure is ugly.
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Old 03-05-2017, 07:34 PM   #275
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Yes, i hope i'm wrong but i'm confident it will be relatively the same!
Ok when did you start working with Kirby and sitting in on the hours upon hours of recording sessions with Matt?
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Speaking of Wrigley, the Rizzo home run they show us lands well over 500 feet, and looks like it hits short of the buildings. The closest building down the right field line in reality is less than 460 feet away. In fact, you don't even reach 500-foot territory until the red building next to the one with the Harry Caray face on it, out in RCF.

Just saying that any ball landing 500 feet away down the right field line either hits the building itself or goes on top of it. Guess the buildings might not have any collision detection attached to them, unless I saw it incorrectly.

Not that we'd be hitting 500+ foot bombs anyway, but I mean hey... they have collision detection for the Marlins scoreboard haha!

And believe me or not, but in HRD I have hit it off of the lights in the Marlins (LF) and Astros (RF) stadiums before. I don't think they'll have tags for them, but I love to try and do that kind of stuff in these games.
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Ok when did you start working with Kirby and sitting in on the hours upon hours of recording sessions with Matt?
Well then....i guess there is still hope but that stream didn't do the commentary any justice despite the point of the stream was to show off new commentary. Couple the fact that the guys just spoke over the game, and the moments we heard Matt speak, i just got the impression they barely added any significant dialogue changes to him. Intro was the same, his play calls were the same..honestly nothing exciting from Matt's end. His voice and tone is still stale!

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Sorry if I mentioned this before as I can't remember if I posted this or not but SCEA... seriously? I'm as in love with your game as anyone but this is going to be a huge eyesore for me. For years now SCEA has left the fence (where you can see from the street into Wrigley) in the game although its been gone for a few years in real life. Us Cubs fans have pointed this out and SCEA finally addressed it... but this is what they did?



I'm still going to hold out a little hope that this looks better once it's released. If they would simply make it so that it doesn't run up to the exposed bricks that would help a lot. I fully expect the next comment about this to be that I'm making a big deal out of nothing. But for someone that will play 81+ games a year at Wrigley and see plenty of balls go over that fence, ugh, it sure is ugly.
Oh god is that an eyesore

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Well then....i guess there is still hope but that stream didn't do the commentary any justice despite the point of the stream was to show off new commentary. Couple the fact that the guys just spoke over the game, and the moments we heard Matt speak, i just got the impression they barely added any significant dialogue changes to him. Intro was the same, his play calls were the same..honestly nothing exciting from Matt's end. His voice and tone is still stale!
Did you catch the part about them re-doing almost all of Vasgersian's walk-ups (when batters step up to the plate)? Or are you purposefully trying to be difficult?

Even with hundreds/thousands of new lines, the library of Matt's lines are so extensive that it's difficult to make a dent in a single dev cycle. The irony here being that some people (not most, but some) say his lines are stale even though there are so many thousands upon thousands of them in the game already, that their presence dilutes the frequency with which you hear new ones--certainly we'd need to listen to more than one game to make any solid conclusions? I think Matt Vasgersian is quite good in the game as a commentator and I really don't get why people need to make dozens of posts about this when they've been told that he's not going anywhere. And with good reason, because he's the best man for the job.

I thought the commentary stream itself was quite good, but then again, unlike some frequently disgruntled posters in these threads, I am not hellbent on complaining about everything I can possibly complain about no matter what. Let's not even mention the fact about adding 2 entirely new commentators from scratch for this cycle, lol. This provides some needed context for all of these complaints.

Constructive criticism is one thing. But, posting the same things (often with an erroneous or speculative premise) over and over with no ideas presented on how to improve it is frankly a waste of bandwidth. It borders on spam, imo.
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Old 03-05-2017, 08:26 PM   #280
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They are stale and so his delivery! I'm not arguing removing him altogether, i'm just saying most of what he says is stale because it has been the same for awhile.

I would also like to see examples of these new lines they recorded. Also, even with the new lines, if his delivery of said lines are as stale as before, then it doesn't change much of the problem in the first place. I know this is a very opinionated subject, so I'm not here to say I'm right and everyone else is wrong. As I said, the stream itself did nothing to show off Matt's redone work. I don't mind waiting for the 28th to see more, but that should not completely denounce the poor execution of showing off the new commentary, particularly for Matt this week.
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