PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

[orion523]

Played about 10 or so games today, same settings as Matt posted on his video. Kinda have mixed feelings, as I have for the last several years with PES. Fundamentally the game feels just as it has for years. Barely there physics, clumsy replay system, PS1 style menus, overly complicated control scheme, yet despite all that, it's got the fun factor. From a sim perspective, there are definitely issues, the biggest of which pertains to space and the cheapness of it. It's simply too easy to move through two thirds of the pitch. Fouls are better, but still not up to par. Keepers much better, no real complaints. I know I'm all over here, but all boiled down it comes to this. If you are a fan of the series and are willing to accept the limitations when it comes to leagues, licenses, editing, and the rest then you will love 17. If not, then there's nothing here to change your mind.

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by PAPERNUT

Still not satisfied with the refs and foul calls, but it is about the same with FIFA in that regard now, so not much of a choice to get anything better. I am impressed mostly with the aerial game and hold up play. Player movement and like others have mentioned, the player ID as each individual plays different. This is the closest the game has played to the old days, so I am thinking of making the switch back. If only the PC version was not jacked up, I would hands down make the switch today.

I think they are good probably how it was on PES 6 now. Although I do feel like some refs are more lenient than others (still have to test this), first game I played I saw 10 fouls committed (not including offsides). Overall I am pleased, the jury is still out there on how Adaptive AI transfers over to Tournaments and Master League.

[Matt10]

Seriously, this game is so close. There needs to be a transition from Attack to Defense, not just an immediate ATTACK! and then DEFEND! Watch the video for an explanation:

[Matt10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gnemi

Great stuff, Matt. That hot and cold, binary attacking / defending stuck out immediately. Love the physics, especially the ball, but what's up with the skiing animation when players are face up dribbling? It looks silly because virtually every player on the pitch does it. It almost looks like a dribbling drill with cones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Mean to respond to you, yesterday, man. Yeah - physics on the ball are much better, and pretty much most on the ball elements are positive. As always though, especially in these soccer games, it's all about positioning. See my video above that goes over the cause and effect.

[BL8001]

If you want an eye opener go play FIFA 16.

I just played 2 Fifa 16 matches with default settings, then fired up PES and played 2 matches with default settings.

The way everything goes down is just so much more balanced and fair. If you play chill, the PES AI can score on you on regular, if you play aggressively you need to move up the difficulty.

But to have an AI who is both adventurous and threatening even on the FIFA equivalent of pro is outstanding.

Me as Boca vs River ends 2-2. They go up 1-0, I clamp down and equalize with Tevez, then just a bit later go ahead with a wonderful Tevez goal. CPU claws back and ties up 2-2. None of this feels cheap or exploitative. I am not trying to go into a certain area where automatic goals happen or watch the CPU D being gifted generous miracles to keep me from scoring.

I will have the vid up in this post soon. Stupid xbox one DVR missed my 2nd tevez goal. I wish the xbox one had the recording logic of PS4 to actually start your 5 minutes from when the last 5 minutes ended.

I really hope the FIFA 17 demo is as good as the PES demo. Having 2 great games would be outstanding.

[DBMcGee3]

Quote: Originally Posted by BL8001

If you want an eye opener go play FIFA 16. I just played 2 Fifa 16 matches with default settings, then fired up PES and played 2 matches with default settings. The way everything goes down is just so much more balanced and fair. If you play chill, the PES AI can score on you on regular, if you play aggressively you need to move up the difficulty. But to have an AI who is both adventurous and threatening even on the FIFA equivalent of pro is outstanding. Me as Boca vs River ends 2-2. They go up 1-0, I clamp down and equalize with Tevez, then just a bit later go ahead with a wonderful Tevez goal. CPU claws back and ties up 2-2. None of this feels cheap or exploitative. I am not trying to go into a certain area where automatic goals happen or watch the CPU D being gifted generous miracles to keep me from scoring. I will have the vid up in this post soon. Stupid xbox one DVR missed my 2nd tevez goal. I wish the xbox one had the recording logic of PS4 to actually start your 5 minutes from when the last 5 minutes ended. I really hope the FIFA 17 demo is as good as the PES demo. Having 2 great games would be outstanding.

I agree with you across the board. I think the highest compliment I can give PES this year is that the CPU is scoring some really nice goals on me, in a variety of ways. I have yet to feel cheated, and I can almost always point to a mistake I made that left the door open.

I've played FIFA for years, including spending much more time with it than with PES the past 2 years. I like a lot of what they do. That being said, if their demo doesn't knock it out of the park, I probably won't be buying it this year. The PES demo has me absolutely giddy at work right now, just thinking about playing later. FIFA has never given me that feeling.

[BSDShoes]

Having played more of the demo, I noticed the AI is actually alive and does a variety of things like actually cross passing.

[BL8001]

Quote: Originally Posted by DBMcGee3

The PES demo has me absolutely giddy at work right now, just thinking about playing later. FIFA has never given me that feeling.

This right here.

I am sitting here thinking of the same thing, how can I attack better/more creatively or maybe if I had just played one more extra pass...

Also simple things about who is on the pitch, where. Because it matters. Subs make a big difference.

What I like is how they took the user's player offense AI from last year and made it even better. So often when I use the common tactic of holding up play and allowing overlap, there on the screen is the overlap. I don't have to hold the ball wishing the run would come, it happens.

CPU is doing similar things, they use the pass and go way more effectively than last year.

What it does is fires off defense alarms in the right way. You can feel the threat intensifying. But it doesn't mean they will score, it just means the threat is there. Of course it all means when you do something wrong when the tension heightens the CPU is way more likely to score.

I cannot wait to grab an option file and try some games with lower skilled teams.