An In-Depth Look at the Changes to the NBA 2K16 Ratings System

[ojandpizza]

This is cool but dumb at the same time. For one stats are inflated due to the pace of the game regressing every year, therefor they can't really accurately be depicted by comparing someone now against someone 30 years ago.

I don't like the idea of only ONE player being able to top a rating scale. I love how you take an all time great and compare the rest after him, but no reason someone like Rodman AND Moses can't both be 99 offensive rebounders. The having one guy thing doesn't really make things accurate.

Also comparing offensive rebounding (just the sample stat) now to someone 30 years ago based on statistic production isn't accurate. Approximately 20 more shots taken per game in the 80's which opens up much more rebounding opportunities. Not to mention the majority of those shots coming closer to the rim back then, which usually yielded more rebounds for the big men than today's long shot long rebound style.

And this trickles down the farther you go. The reason Wilt and Bill could snatch up 50 rebound games. Speaking of Bill, who's to say he's not a better offensive rebounder than Rodman? Impossible to know under different rules and eras. The never played each other. This new formula would be MUCH improved if you topped out one player from each era. You can't truly make the claim that player A is better than player B at something if they never played against each other, or even the same era.


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[stillfeelme]

Quote: Originally Posted by DEEBOFIOUS

Finally 2K thinks about ratings comparisons that involve current and past players. This is good, but how can you start with Dennis Rodman as a rebounding example when Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain are in the game? These are the 1st 2 players that should receive 99 offensive/defensive rebounding ratings. The Worm was great but NOT 99 great. 95 yes but NOT 99.

There are no stats for offensive rebounds for their era. They did average more rebounds per game but they played in an era that had more possessions.

Wilt's team shot 112 FGA per game in his best rebound year
Rodman's team shot 84 FGA per game in his best rebound year.

Wilt's team shot 39 FT's/g
Rodman team shot 19FT's/g

Wilt played 47MPG damn just crazy
Rodman played 40MPG

In short Wilt was a great rebounder that had more rebounding opportunities. There is no way to compare offensive rebounds because there is no data for Wilt.
Check back a few pages someone posted a good link that suggest that Rodman had a greater TRB% than them. I not too worried about them giving Rodman the 99 I am sure they probably have Wilt Russell in the high 90's anyway.

I am glad that they will have the current guys all lowered and rated the same against themselves which should and will bring the overalls down.

[bedwardsroy19]

Quote: Originally Posted by KSOR24

I think it's stupid that an entire ratings system is based on something so subjective. I would take advanced stats into consideration more than consensus opinions about players who played in easier eras. The ratings should be relative to all the players CURRENTLY in the league so there aren't as many variables.

All of the benchmarks are determined, by advanced stats (and other data if advanced stats weren't available at that time). Rodman was just an example to help explain conceptually how the system works.

[Poke]

Loving it! As a slider creator this is sweet music to my ears! In real life players work hard day in and day out on the court to put up numbers except the rare days when someone just has one of those days the basket is like an ocean. This just makes it that much more realistic to have to work to score 30. As the game is now, without a good slider set almost anyone can average 25-30 PPG

[thedream2k16]

Quote: Originally Posted by bedwardsroy19

All of the benchmarks are determined, by advanced stats (and other data if advanced stats weren't available at that time). Rodman was just an example to help explain conceptually how the system works.

how will these ratings change during the nba season?

[eko718]

Quote: Originally Posted by thedream2k16

how will these ratings change during the nba season?

It seems that the same scale used to determine the ratings in the first place, should be used to determine them during the season. In other words, how the stats currently during the season compare to the standard for that particular rating category.

[Da_Czar]

If the responses here tell me anything. It is that no matter what anyone does everyone has a better way to do it concerning rosters.LOL.

[bamalam]

Glad to see the HOF ratings being implemented. Overdue.