Madden NFL 15 Official Trailer, Ultimate Edition Details and a Few Screenshots

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by EaglesFan1825

They look like completely opposite games. That's obvious to me. The trailer, on the other hand, doesn't have that huge of a difference to me. I can see a slight difference, that's all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I disagree, but fair enough. How about Dark Souls 2. Same scenario.

I'm just trying to determine a baseline.

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by PatsSB2015

You can't ignore statistics. If you don't want to go on vgchartz, how about Forbes? They addressed the decline in sales. They addressed the reasons on why that might be. Again, no one is saying that Madden NFL 25 didn't put up big numbers. However, having a big time anniversary game sale lower than the last shouldn't be overlooked either. So to me, it is up for debate. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...ts-first-week/

You're right. First week sales are important just like opening weekend for movies. A lot of movies make up losses in DVD sales, but no one cares. Only how it did opening weekend.

The other fact blind defenders like to ignore is that madden was outsold by a basketball game last year. A basketball game that had an alternative basketball offered in nba live.

That's unheard of. Basketball is probably one third as popular as football. A mediocre football game should kill a great basketball game on that alone..and 2k had a ton of backlash from its vc.

Madden is still a money printer, but it's not the popular game it was before the exclusive. Not even close. A game shouldn't lose sales after killing off it's competitor at all, and it shouldn't get out sold by less popular brands. But madden did both.

[PatsSB2015]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs

If they were listening why have the animations been ugly since Madden 06? Why have penalties been broken since 06? Why are sliders a mystery people have to solve to get it to kind of work? Why is the AI still dumb as rocks? Why do they add features and never touch them again? Are you sure they are listening?

They are listening in some ways. They knew people hated the Madden NFL 13 CC feature. People wanted more control and so Madden NFL 25 gave it to them with control of all 32 teams. They knew solely going the online route while ignoring offline users was a bad call. However, they didn't add back things that mattered to some people like CPU vs. CPU in offline franchise mode. While the main purpose is to play the game, they fail to understand that some also like to watch their franchise unfold. In other words, some would rather be the architect and not the jackhammer.

What happens this year will be very telling. I don't like when they take out and then re-feature things, but I'd be happy if they added CPU vs. CPU in offline franchise and added game tickers back in the game. Honestly, I would just like a polished up version of Madden NFL 12 with added on features. There's no need to reinvent features that people like. Just add to it, make it better, correct any issues. That's it for me as a Madden gamer.

[Scratchboi]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

They are listening, and based on retail sales of the software and DLC purchase sales from Ultimate Team those who buy Madden NFL greatly enjoy the product EA Tiburon produces.

Agree with this assesment. EA is a business and at the end of the day whatever brings them the most profit is what they run with. I don't know about "greatly" enjoying the product. But it's NFL football and that's enough for most.

Here's hoping Madden 15 delivers!

[Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs

If they were listening why have the animations been ugly since Madden 06? Why have penalties been broken since 06? Why are sliders a mystery people have to solve to get it to kind of work? Why is the AI still dumb as rocks? Why do they add features and never touch them again? Are you sure they are listening?

Yes, I am sure they are listening to the target audience of their game, mostly the competitive online crowd, who buys and enjoys their product. It is readily apparent that this target audience is not one which you are a member.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

What don't you get? Just because they aren't addressing your concerns doesn't mean they aren't addressing the things other people ask for. Fact of the matter actual gameplay is last on the list to a majority of kids anymore, it is what it is. They are listening, just not to you.

I know, I know I do get it. It's the tournament guys they really care about. They have proved that with some of the things they have said. I know Madden will probably never be SIM. But kicking and screaming is the only way they might pay attention. If we stay silent then that won't get anyone's attention. At this point the only thing that can change things are if a football game gets announced at E3.

[Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by MajorSupreme

Exactly. The devs know that can do the least possible, hype it up, and still have excellent sales annually. It's lazy, but it's smart of them for cashing in on most of us buying Madden no matter how much we complain and ask for certain features. That little suggestions page they have, I'd bet no one looks at it. Smart company.

No, EA is absolutely not being "lazy" by focusing their feature set and upgrades to a different target audience than the one which is most vocally present here.

[howboutdat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Only1LT

I think it is a bit close minded on your part to associated not liking Madden or voicing criticism about certain aspects of Madden as being closed minded. Having said that, I don't play NCAA and have never seen the Player lock camera, but I am a fan of it in theory. I would rather it be an integral part of the gaming experience in Madden, a la Backbreaker, as opposed to an optional camera angle though. A lot of unrealistic aspects with regards to gameplay can be attributed to how much more of our surroundings we can see due to the overhead cam and I think the game would instantly become more sim with a more confined 3rd person view with a user controllable camera via the Right Stick. Since there is absolutely no way that this is what they have done in Madden 15, and probably never will do, I would play with the new camera (provided I even get the game), but I can't help but think of it as a missed opp.

well i guess when i see peps wanting to say how aweful m15 is gonna be , and how bad the gameplay already looks, after seeing about 15 seconds worth of tossed together , quick moving footage, is nothing more than some being close minded. You cant gather hardly anything from this "gameplay trailer" Most of whats being said ,is mostly being based off their past maddens they didnt like. Not the fact its been getting better since m13.

As for the player lock camera, i only played the last ncaa demo, it was a camera angle you could choose that was behind the d player you picked, closer to field level, but alittle to far back from player imo.

I TOTALLY agree with you on the part about needing a more 3rd person view to make the game more SIM. Ive said this for years. The normal overhead , see all of the field and everyone on it with nothing blocking your view, is UNSIM in itself and generates alot of unsim gameplay due to being able to see more than a real player could at once.Its not a true measure of ones football IQ as well as , your not seeing it as a real NFL player sees it. Im sure all qbs in NFL would love to see their games from that overhead view for this very reason. I personally would love a better on the field camera. In madden 10 co -op online they had it pretty close to how it needs to be , and you could switch players on d in the middle of a play. The main thing they needed to fix with that view then was allow the ability to look around your player. So im hoping one of the new 6 camera angles gives us a better on the field view myself, one for the reasons you mentioned , although as you noted if everyone doesnt have to use it , it only really helps the lobby players be bettter by having a cheating view of field while you play like a real football player view. The other reason i want this , i actually want to get a better feeling like im actually on a nfl field, playing in a nfl game.That madden 10 co-op gave me that feel more than any others ive seen. So for those reasons i hope they have a good camera angle on the field.