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Old 11-09-2013, 05:35 AM   #233
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Re: Madden 25 Next-Gen Living Worlds Trailer

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The players, crowd and sidelines all react in real-time to the big touchdown pass from from Case Keenum to Andre Johnson.

The crowd stands up when the ball is in the air, cheers when the catch is made, then goes bananas once the touchdown is scored.

And that was done 7 YEARS AGO??! On older Gen Consoles??! Wow simply amazing and only says a lot of how good those 2K Dev's where.. What does that really say about Madden not even coming close to that with Next Gen Console Power??? The proof is in the pudding, you cannot deny the facts..
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:13 AM   #234
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Can't stop laughing at the "Living Worlds" title on that video. There's an interview in another thread with a M25 dev who talked about the way they all cheered and freaked out around the office when people saw the crowds & sidelines in NG Madden. Um... yeah.
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And that was done 7 YEARS AGO??! On older Gen Consoles??! Wow simply amazing and only says a lot of how good those 2K Dev's where.. What does that really say about Madden not even coming close to that with Next Gen Console Power??? The proof is in the pudding, you cannot deny the facts..
I don't understand why people keep making this argument and ignore all of the other overhead in the game like the poly count of the 22 players on the field, lighting, stadium, etc.

Of course now that some of this is added it doesn't matter and a previous game is brought up instead.

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LIVING WORLDS is what NBA 2k14 is doing. Player interviews? INSANE.


FIFA does this LIVING WORLDS stuff better and I dont think they brag about it as much.


OMG We have a decent crowd and a running engine!! LETS CELEBRATE!
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Can't stop laughing at the "Living Worlds" title on that video. There's an interview in another thread with a M25 dev who talked about the way they all cheered and freaked out around the office when people saw the crowds & sidelines in NG Madden. Um... yeah.
Imagine how they would react if they saw 2k8 gameplay?

To me, living worlds is about much more than crowds and sidelines. A major part of making the game world feel like a living world is based of animation quality and taking the time to create the small stuff that you don't normally notice. In 2k8, for example, they had the kicker leaning to the side after an attempt and peeking past the linemen to get a better view. It was a simple little animation, but it made the player feel much more alive.
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I don't understand why people keep making this argument and ignore all of the other overhead in the game like the poly count of the 22 players on the field, lighting, stadium, etc.

Of course now that some of this is added it doesn't matter and a previous game is brought up instead.

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And how well does you size argument hold up after seeing the game sizes of EA games. 2k put that (APF) together in 6 months. Tiburon had what, 2 years working on next gen and we get a game that is 75% smaller than 2ks current game in size. Oh and both released current gen games in the same cycle. Looking at the numbers and time available would lead one to believe it's not a size issue it's a passion and ability issue.
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And how well does you size argument hold up after seeing the game sizes of EA games. 2k put that (APF) together in 6 months. Tiburon had what, 2 years working on next gen and we get a game that is 75% smaller than 2ks current game in size. Oh and both released current gen games in the same cycle. Looking at the numbers and time available would lead one to believe it's not a size issue it's a passion and ability issue.
Ah, the bitter sounds of goalposts moving and why game comparisons weren't usually allowed in this forum to begin with.

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Ah, the bitter sounds of goalposts moving and why game comparisons weren't usually allowed in this forum to begin with.

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Goalposts moving...come on now. You are the one that brought up the size issue as to all those other things added that people pointing to APFs sidelines were ignoring. Now that the size of the games has been released and that argument holds zero water you hide behind the reason game comparisons are not allowed, which was due to people not pointing out fair comparisons but rather this game sucks the other one was better. 2k put things in their game tiburon has not. Madden has things in their game 2k did not. Now that we know size of games on next gen, next gen capabilities and what each studio was able to do with a comparable alottment of time, I'll say again, the size argument holds no water.
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