Madden 25 Next-Gen Living Worlds Trailer

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

Less a problem with wardrobe and more with animation variety/staggering in that shot for me. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Yeah I agree. If the characters are going to look similar(which is something I don't think they can avoid with so many characters) at least give them varied animations. Some high fives, jumping up and down, ect...

[roadman]

I don't think we need to get hung up with women attending football games.

I stated in my first post, in our section, there were 85% men at least, which mean there were probably 3 or 4 women sprinkled in.

It's like BoilerBuzz stated, I'll be zig-zagging my way to a TD and watching the celebration vs looking up to see if I spot women who are blondes over brunettes.lol

[wordtobigbird]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

Damn sure looks better than current gen. I actually like that shot right there.

without a doubt ALL of this is better than current gen Madden and I do like what they are doing but it could be a whole lot better and has been in other, older games.

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I don't think we need to get hung up with women attending football games. I stated in my first post, in our section, there were 85% men at least, which mean there were probably 3 or 4 women sprinkled in. It's like BoilerBuzz stated, I'll be zig-zagging my way to a TD and watching the celebration vs looking up to see if I spot women who are blondes over brunettes.lol

Lol seriously? we are going that route? "ill be too busy playing to notice the details"

Um when they show you a cutscene of the crowd cheering, thats all you will me looking at. But hey, it doesnt matter. I'm not saying its a game killer or ruins the entire feature BUT it shows Madden is again missing almost all the attention to detail. Don't sell me living worlds/1000s of models in the crowd and I can point out the repeated 10 easily.

[wordtobigbird]

Quote: Originally Posted by wordtobigbird

52 jersey. 12 jersey. Yellow sleeve. Greenbay Logo T-Shirt. Greenbay Logo Polo. Gray shortsleeve. Gray longsleeve. Red shirts Hats on Hats off Green billed vs Yellow billed hat Various Skintones IDK how many models Madden said they had but if I can pretty much point them out in a whole two sections of the stadium almost. I don't think thats enough variety. No one in greenbay is wearing a jacket or a beanie compared to Phillies striped jersey Bue vest/Brown shirt Red hoody up. Red hoody down. Red jacket w blue hood Striped Sleeve jacket. Brown hoody. Green vest/gray sleeves. Blue hoody. Green jacket, pink turtleneck White hoody Red shortsleeve Red tank white undershirt Black/grey jacket Purple beanie Black beanie Phillies hat blue brim Philies hat red brim Blue phillies hat red brim Blue phillies hat blue brim Hoodys up Orange earmuffs. Red earmuffs. Blank hat Red beret Tan beret Gray beanie Backwards vs forwards hats Its just night and day.. and this is current gen mlb the show and next gen madden?

Madden has a long way to go. And I'll leave it at that.

The crowd reactions are what impress me, the models themselves? Underwhelming.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by wordtobigbird

without a doubt ALL of this is better than current gen Madden and I do like what they are doing but it could be a whole lot better and has been in other, older games. Lol seriously? we are going that route? "ill be too busy playing to notice the details" Um when they show you a cutscene of the crowd cheering, thats all you will me looking at. But hey, it doesnt matter. I'm not saying its a game killer or ruins the entire feature BUT it shows Madden is again missing almost all the attention to detail. Don't sell me living worlds/1000s of models in the crowd and I can point out the repeated 10 easily.

Did marketing say 1000 different models?

Do we all play and view the game the same way? I never really paid much attention to the cutouts after scoring, so, I doubt if I'll pay attention to the crowd after a score.

To each their own. For some people it's important, for me, not so. I'm more concerned with the crowd swelling at the right times, ie 3rd and short, interceptions etc....

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by TexasFan2005

I agree with most of what you said, but let's be honest; if a "dev" has to go to a videogame forum for "stuff that can help" make his job easier, then something is very wrong. I get it, Madden "devs" are human, but I still hate the fact that we know these people by name in order to humanize them. I don't care who is working on the game, I don't care what his name is, I don't care how many years he's been in the business, I don't care how many hours/day he has to work, I simply don't care. Just make a game that's actually worth $60. Enough with the excuses

i think what hes saying is that devs go to forums to see what the most talked about things are that fans want to see fixed. im sure they have a laundry list of things that they know need fixing but i would imagine in a lot of cases they want to see what the most pressing things are. but when all they see in every thread is "i dont like this game i like game x better" then why would they bother? theyre not getting any useful info from that.

[wordtobigbird]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Did marketing say 1000 different models? Do we all play and view the game the same way? I never really paid much attention to the cutouts after scoring, so, I doubt if I'll pay attention to the crowd after a score. To each their own. For some people it's important, for me, not so. I'm more concerned with the crowd swelling at the right times, ie 3rd and short, interceptions etc....

I am more concerned with that as well. Like I said, the most important thing is the crowds reaction and thats all audio engineering. They spoke about it in that podcast and i look forward to hearing.

But this nonchalant attitude about the details in the game is part of the reason the game is the way it is. What I am talking about is realism and immersion. I skip every cutscene I can usually, I'm just impatient. Doesn't mean it isn't important to the game. First you tried to defend not having ANY women models because Lambeu was all men in your section. Then you say who cares about whether they are blonde or brunette? Who mentioned anything about that? No one is getting that nitpicky.

This reminds me of the guy that says "I'm looking at the defense when I'm passing, who cares about the throwing animations." But hey, whatever works for you.

And if you watch the trailer it clearly says: "40,000 3D character models". Now maybe that means 40,000 3D clones.. IDK. But it sounds a lot like when they say they added hundreds of new catching animations and you only see the same 5-10.

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Did marketing say 1000 different models? Do we all play and view the game the same way? I never really paid much attention to the cutouts after scoring, so, I doubt if I'll pay attention to the crowd after a score. To each their own. For some people it's important, for me, not so. I'm more concerned with the crowd swelling at the right times, ie 3rd and short, interceptions etc....

i agree with this. i would rather they focus on getting the on-field game to look and play naturally, and just have the atmosphere feel organic (sounds, commentary, etc.) than have them worry about the appearance of diversity in the stands. once they have a great game of football then they can worry about things like that.