Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I said this earlier, not one sports game in my library is has sliders right of the box that are playable and usable. Everyone has their own cup of tea of what is realistic and what isn't. What you think is realistic out of the box, someone else may feel differently. That is why sliders are there. Even the great 2k11 is majorly tuned by me before I start my association.

12 turnovers in 10 minutes isn't anywhere near just how someone plays. It's unbalanced right out of the box and requires more than just a couple of tweaks. NBA2k11 is MUCH better with this.

[BamaFan1309]

I personally think the demo is amazing and I'm on ps3. I haven't played it much but from what I've seen, I'm very impressed. The problem is usually the series getting stale and being the same from year to year, but this year they actually seemed to change it a lot and I'm glad. Let's all remember this a stripped down, old version with no commentary, so the retail copy will be even better

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

12 turnovers in 10 minutes isn't anywhere near just how someone plays. It's unbalanced right out of the box and requires more than just a couple of tweaks. NBA2k11 is MUCH better with this.

What sports game hasn't?

NFL2k5 and APF considered by many to be the gold standard of football games, required significant slider tweaking to play balanced. Some swear that 2k5 required a pretty significant re-rating of certain attributes amongst the players.

The Show, NBA 2k11 all require slider adjustments to play to everyone's tastes.

The sliders are there to use, I don't see the issue here.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

12 turnovers in 10 minutes isn't anywhere near just how someone plays. It's unbalanced right out of the box and requires more than just a couple of tweaks. NBA2k11 is MUCH better with this.

Never said it was. Never said a few tweaks, either, my tweaking takes much longer for that for each sports game.

Anyway, the demo to me is much better than retail NCAA and it's an early build. I'm sure the retail version will be better and I will begin the process over of adjusting sliders the way I play once I have the retail version.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

What sports game hasn't? NFL2k5 and APF considered by many to be the gold standard of football games, required significant slider tweaking to play balanced. Some swear that 2k5 required a pretty significant re-rating of certain attributes amongst the players. The Show, NBA 2k11 all require slider adjustments to play to everyone's tastes. The sliders are there to use, I don't see the issue here.

There are a bunch of issues when a game starts off so unbalanced. A slider adjustment here to make one part of the game more realistic can cause more of an unbalance in another part of the game. You waste a lot of time chasing your tail and never get something that's satisfactory.

I disagree with NBA2K11. That took minor slider adjustments out of the box. Someone else mentioned an NHL game.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

There are a bunch of issues when a game starts off so unbalanced. A slider adjustment here to make one part of the game more realistic can cause more of an unbalance in another part of the game. You waste a lot of time chasing your tail and never get something that's satisfactory. I disagree with NBA2K11. That took minor slider adjustments out of the box. Someone else mentioned an NHL game.

I disagree. 2k5 for instance had some major balance issues out of the box. Once tuned it played a spectacular game of football. Like I said there were some who swear it needed re-ratings across the board on certain attributes. It's considered by many to the pinnacle of football gaming.

I think you're making something out of nothing here. Most issues can be addressed by sliders, so I still don't see a problem.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

There are a bunch of issues when a game starts off so unbalanced. A slider adjustment here to make one part of the game more realistic can cause more of an unbalance in another part of the game. You waste a lot of time chasing your tail and never get something that's satisfactory.

Agree to disagree, bucky. It's never been a waste of my time on how I want to play the game. Also, I do get satisfactory results after testing and tweaking my sliders to play season upon season and association beyond association.

I'm afraid this one you need to feel, "to each their own."

[R0M0mentum09]

Watch to learn about the NEW pump fake mechanics!

This is just my opinion, nothing factual (with the exception of a few things). I'd really appreciate feedback (my 1st video). I know it ran kinda long. . . a lot to discuss. Hope this is informative, just discussing some issues/much discussed topics with the game. I'm not trying to say I'm for or against this game, and I'm certainly not trying to sway people one way or another. That being said I hope you all enjoy!