NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy

I guess my point is, I want my basketball game to reflect what I see each night during the NBA season. I spent days editing sliders for both Live and 2K, adjusting vertical ratings and dunking ability to reflect what happens in real-life. I get that the control provides users the ability to do something different. I also think that sacrifices the realism of the sport.

The point of a sports video game to me is doing anything you want to do as long as it fits within a players boundaries. If the only things that you were allowed to do in the game was things you see players do irl then everything would be canned animations. You would have absolute no control. You might as well let the computer play for you.

sports games gives users the chance to take control of a team and do what they what to do. That is why its a game.

But i understand what you are trying to get at. I hate to see cheesers doing things online then get rewarded for it with points or a win. There needs to be more penalties when it comes to that and i dont mean disconnections, bans, etc. But things like missed shots, turnovers, losses, fatigued, etc.

[erickonasis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rocboyz101

Its still funny that this is an argument. By this logic, alot of you guys would be fine with being able to attempt to dunk from the 3 pt line. Some stuff just shouldn't be in the game.

Exactly...according to them...oh but thats TOTAL CONTROL...its just stupid that someone would get excited over being able to have the control to do impossible things....

[Rocboyz101]

And someone attempting a dunk in traffic from the free throw line, or steve nash attempting to tomahawk dunk shouldn't even be possible. How corny would it be if you drive and you mean to do a hard layup with nash...and the sucker trys to dunk it? Again, somethings just shouldn't be allowed. This an example of where total control can cause a bit of chaos.

[HoosierDaddy]

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

The point of a sports video game to me is doing anything you want to do as long as it fits within a players boundaries. If the only things that you were allowed to do in the game was things you see players do irl then everything would be canned animations. You would have absolute no control. You might as well let the computer play for you. sports games gives users the chance to take control of a team and do what they what to do. That is why its a game. But i understand what you are trying to get at. I hate to see cheesers doing things online then get rewarded for it with points or a win. There needs to be more penalties when it comes to that and i dont mean disconnections, bans, etc. But things like missed shots, turnovers, losses, fatigued, etc.

It's basically the same thing. Anything you see a player do in real life and play within their boundaries. About the same. The control comes when you choose what play to run, who to run it for, and execute that play. Control your favorite player or team and imitate what you see in real life. Have realistic rules and stats and not seeing unrealistic moves or absurd stats. I guess I'm just a sim-head and want as authentic experience as I can get.

[michaeljordanjr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation

Quote:

The act of simulating something generally entails representing certain key characteristics or behaviours of a selected physical or abstract system.

When you insert variable - "HUMAN USER" you cannot fully expect the user to manipulate said simulation to every faithful detail and characteristic.

Are some of you confused as to what a simulation is? For Basketball its, running plays, setting picks, boxing out, physicality and control over all of these things. Not every nook and cranny or nuance is gonna be perfect. As long as the main characteristics are programmed in, its a simulation.

If NBA ELITE was a game that only let you view games that have CPU vs CPU maybe that would be considered 100% a simulation. If we define it literally.

We already see how ELITE has represented characteristics and behaviour of a real NBA game on the physics side.

Because some users do not know how to run Basketball simulations should not deter your interest in the game.

Get the demo, play it and THEN you can post "its not a simulation" or "its a simulation".

[ajknows]

Quote: Originally Posted by erickonasis

Exactly...according to them...oh but thats TOTAL CONTROL...its just stupid that someone would get excited over being able to have the control to do impossible things....

What is it you are not understanding? No one wants the players to have the ability to dunk from the 3 point line, just the option to if your heart desires.

Every player in the nba can attempt a dunk from the 3 point line can they do it and be successful...no, same way with the game.

Now if the cpu starts trying to do these things we have a problem.

[erickonasis]

Quote: Originally Posted by ajknows

What is it you are not understanding? No one wants the players to have the ability to dunk from the 3 point line, just the option to if your heart desires.

Thats what im talking about YOUR not understanding ...what fun do you get out of being able to have the option for Shaq to do a 360 dunk? Pretty ridiculous if you ask me that is NOT sim. In other words your want to encourage someone to use this type of play by giving them the option

[Rocboyz101]

Quote: Originally Posted by ajknows

Every player in the nba can attempt a dunk from the 3 point line can they do it and be successful...no, same way with the game.

LMAO. So you wouldn't mind an ugly animation of a player attempting to dunk from the 3pt line and throwing up some dumb shot rather than it being an automatic jumpshot eh?