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Old 06-24-2010, 06:27 AM   #73
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

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It took Revis 10 seconds to get from the back of the endzone to score the TD. So that is basically ~105 yards in 10 seconds (10.2 yards per second)...in pads...during the game...with fatigue. So basically he has the fastest 40 time in NFL history. What the hell EA, is it really hard to not have guys 40 times measure their speed? Or at least fatigue in there? Nobody can run 105 yards at max speed continusuly. I didn't see Revis slow down near the end either.
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1: Speed Slider/option setting.

2: Check out this blog posting from last year - it's Bill Harris timing a Devin Hester real life run from Youtube and the result is around 4.35 or even faster to cover 40 yards.
http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2...date-more.html
Keep in mind he's in pads, and not starting from a stationary position like in a 40 yard dash, and neither is Revis in this clip.

3: I actually broke out the stopwatch on Revis the same way Bill did, and got a pretty consistent 4.3 to cover 40 yards in this clip (I timed from the 50 to the 10, FYI).

Now...yes, he doesn't really slow down and (more importantly IMO), it's in the rain. But as for fatigue, do we know whether or not it was turned on for this E3 build? Probably should have been slower due to the rain, but I don't think that effect has ever been in Madden.
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:03 AM   #74
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

is this really madden 11? this looks like 10
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:36 AM   #75
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That was ugly!

Even at half / 3 quarter speed, Revis should plant his foot & shift his body weight to react to that ball. He makes a full 180 degree change of direction. You can't spin on one foot & do that. It's impossibe to read that as a QB if defenders don't have to adhere to the laws of physics.

And the sprint animation is terrible. The strides cover too much ground and gives the impression he's gliding up the field.
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I'm a big Madden critic and I think its pretty clear Revis does plant the foot and turn, then jump. I guess I am seeing things...
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I'm a big Madden critic and I think its pretty clear Revis does plant the foot and turn, then jump. I guess I am seeing things...
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A few things about this post:

1: Speed Slider/option setting.

2: Check out this blog posting from last year - it's Bill Harris timing a Devin Hester real life run from Youtube and the result is around 4.35 or even faster to cover 40 yards.
http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2...date-more.html
Keep in mind he's in pads, and not starting from a stationary position like in a 40 yard dash, and neither is Revis in this clip.

3: I actually broke out the stopwatch on Revis the same way Bill did, and got a pretty consistent 4.3 to cover 40 yards in this clip (I timed from the 50 to the 10, FYI).

Now...yes, he doesn't really slow down and (more importantly IMO), it's in the rain. But as for fatigue, do we know whether or not it was turned on for this E3 build? Probably should have been slower due to the rain, but I don't think that effect has ever been in Madden.
Revis does not have Hester's speed...not even close
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:04 PM   #79
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I'm a big Madden critic and I think its pretty clear Revis does plant the foot and turn, then jump. I guess I am seeing things...
I wish the vid were a little clearer. I can't quite make out what his fee are doing. I'm looking more at his body. What I see is a sudden stop & spin in the opposite direction. No body lean... nothing to show him putting any effort towards stopping his momentum before the change in direction, and nothing to show him pushing off in the orther. And the direction change happens quicker than I'd want. From that, I get the STRONG impression his feet do nothing more than go from a running animation in one direction to a running animation in another.
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I'm a big Madden critic and I think its pretty clear Revis does plant the foot and turn, then jump. I guess I am seeing things...
I don't think he does, it looks like a 170 degree spin to me. But even if he does, there's still a few things horribly wrong.

A. He never looks back at the ball the entire time. Not once. You don't make a leaping catch on a ball you don't see.

B. After he changes direction, he takes TWO STEPS and then LEAPS at the 1 with enough force to land 3 yards into the endzone after the catch. No one gets that kind of distance on two steps.

The realistic version of that play ends with the ball landing about 5 yards into the endzone with Revis maybe flailing at it as it goes past him out of reach, and the TE probably just watching it hit the ground because he had no chance at it either.
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