Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

[SincerelYourz]

i thought locomotion was to correct this type of gameplay? i need more footage.

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by RaiderKtulu

I don't think he does, it looks like a 170 degree spin to me. But even if he does, there's still a few things horribly wrong. A. He never looks back at the ball the entire time. Not once. You don't make a leaping catch on a ball you don't see. B. After he changes direction, he takes TWO STEPS and then LEAPS at the 1 with enough force to land 3 yards into the endzone after the catch. No one gets that kind of distance on two steps. The realistic version of that play ends with the ball landing about 5 yards into the endzone with Revis maybe flailing at it as it goes past him out of reach, and the TE probably just watching it hit the ground because he had no chance at it either.

Jumping 3 yards is no big feat at all, especially with a start. I can easily jump 9 feet standing still. Also, he does look at the ball. But he then turns his back to it. Thats just cosmetic though. The result of the play was realistic. If EA had a correct head tracking system and he turned the correct way, then the play might look a little better, but it would still be the same result. Out of all the Madden E3 videos, this one is really the only one I don't have a problem with.

Quote: Originally Posted by Skyboxer

No you're not....

Thank you for letting me know who I am and who I am not.

[RaiderKtulu]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

Jumping 3 yards is no big feat at all, especially with a start. I can easily jump 9 feet standing still. Also, he does look at the ball. But he then turns his back to it. Thats just cosmetic though. The result of the play was realistic. If EA had a correct head tracking system and he turned the correct way, then the play might look a little better, but it would still be the same result. Out of all the Madden E3 videos, this one is really the only one I don't have a problem with. Thank you for letting me know who I am and who I am not.

Aren't the cosmetic issues what we want fixed though? I mean, hell, from a pure results standpoint, Madden isn't usually that far off. If that play looked right - it wouldn't piss people off. Proper head tracking and proper use of animations (or actual physics) would go a long way in turning "DAMN CPU CHEATING BS!!!* into "damn... nice play".

[canes21]

It is definitely what we want, but I was getting the feeling most people were complaining about the result of the play. Comments like, "He turned 180 degrees on a dime..." make me think they don't just dislike how it looked, but they didn't see any slow down or anything and it disappointed them.

I personally think it was a realistic play for a video game. But if I were to critique it, I would have liked Revis to keep his body squared up to the QB, keep his head on the ball all time, get lower to turn around, then actually turn the correct way, and then explode for the jump.

One day we might get all that, but from what I have seen from Madden, this play has definitely been a better one in my eyes.

[bxgoods]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

I'm a big Madden critic and I think its pretty clear Revis does plant the foot and turn, then jump. I guess I am seeing things...

Your not seeing things.

[SA1NT401]

Maybe locomotion only comes into play when you are actually contolling the player....Then when your not, the CPU has them behave as normal....I am just not seeing much of an impact in the overall "FLOW' of the game than i was expecting. hardly noticable in any of the vids near as i can tell.

Seems as though locomotion reall only appears in extreme changes in direction.....IDK. Gameplay still looks the same overall as it has always looked to me.

[K_GUN]

i wonder what a 'locomotion' slider would do....it seemed to work for a speed slider

[mr_president]

same old madden. that play shows one of the many problems that plague this series,physics do not exist in madden.

when things like this happen it makes it hard for the you to make proper reads on the defense.