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Old 06-18-2010, 01:07 PM   #1937
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I'm just waiting for consecutive hit tackles. I noticed that a lot of defensive players just bounce off one another when the offensive player is being tackled (similar to the Reggie Bush video for Madden 11). There are some defense AI bugs, but to have consecutive hit tackling would help tremendously. Does anyone know if the current engine is capable of getting this accomplished for 2012? I know it most likely can't be patched.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:09 PM   #1938
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I understand what is being said here but it has already been said the latest build of the game is far better than the demo. This came from a reputable source who has actually played the latest build.

I fail to understand why someone would right such an elaborate post based on the experience he or she had while playing a demo. Why post this now?

Quite frankly, until the game is released no one is going to pay much attention to this.
This is the demo impressions thread, is it not? All he was doing was posting his impressions.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:37 PM   #1939
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For anyone critical of the technical football shortcomings of this game I think that video games are just not for you and you should actually be outside playing football.

I think the demo and the game play a fun game of video game football. I don't go into it expecting to 100% recreate the real thing.

Also, I'll throw this out. In my job I'm always around college and high school coaches and I know for a fact alot of them tell their players to play Madden and NCAA to help them learn some football basics so these guys must be doing something right.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:46 PM   #1940
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For anyone critical of the technical football shortcomings of this game I think that video games are just not for you and you should actually be outside playing football.

I think the demo and the game play a fun game of video game football. I don't go into it expecting to 100% recreate the real thing.

Also, I'll throw this out. In my job I'm always around college and high school coaches and I know for a fact alot of them tell their players to play Madden and NCAA to help them learn some football basics so these guys must be doing something right.
yes it does i'm a youth football coach it makes it kinda easy to describe routes and defense cause the kids play. also learning basic defense coverages especially zone. though typically flawed in the game they get the basic jist.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:04 PM   #1941
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Skyboxer is reiterating what my sarcasm implied, we understand some of you have real issues with the demo and, in general, EA's style of football, but why is there a need to post the same things again and again and then get angry when others still seem to enjoy the game? It just seems as if unless we all agree with you and decide we're not going to buy the game, and then announce the flaws again and again like yourself, then you will never be happy. Sorry but it's never going to happen.

Here's a revelation: some of us know football, yes probably as well as you and anyone else complaining, as much as that may shock you, but yet we are able to enjoy the game without nitpicking it to death. And yes we'll even agree some flaws are most certainly not nitpicking, but regardless we still stil get great enjoyment from the game and will continue to purchase it.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:04 PM   #1942
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For anyone critical of the technical football shortcomings of this game I think that video games are just not for you and you should actually be outside playing football.

I think the demo and the game play a fun game of video game football. I don't go into it expecting to 100% recreate the real thing.

Also, I'll throw this out. In my job I'm always around college and high school coaches and I know for a fact alot of them tell their players to play Madden and NCAA to help them learn some football basics so these guys must be doing something right.
I've always said gamers these days want NASA artificial intelligence out of a $60 game. That really makes a lot of sense.
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I just saw a standing tackle. ie the refs blew the play dead. That was pretty cool.
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In the first 72 hours of the demo being released, I'm amazed how many gamers are anointing the game as 'G.O.A.T.' I too noticed some improvement, but needless to say, I'm not as impressed as many others.
It seems that every year a new NCAA Football game demo is released, many gamers create a blog or thread praising the game and saying nothing but good things, and even sometimes get angry at the criticism of others! However, after the game has been on shelves for about 3 months, the same gamers are online complaining about how unrealistic and inadequate the game is.

I feel that EA Sports has greatly improved what I like to call the 'glamor' aspects of the game while minimally making improvements to the actual gameplay.
By 'GLAMOR', I am referring to the changes in presentation, lighting, and replays; Nike Pro Combat Uniforms; New multi-colored cleats and other accesories (gloves, towels, ankle and knee braces, etc); team entrances; on-field referrees; and the much hyped 'Locomotion' and 'Pro Tak' tackling.
I admit, all of this looks GREAT and I like it a lot! However, I'd give it all up in exchange for better GAMEPLAY. So my question is, how long will it take before the 'glamor' wears off and gamers begin to notice the flaws and shortcomings of this soon-to-be $60 game? How long before those praising it so much begin to see the good, the bad, and the ugly? Will EA Sports be able to work out some of the kinks before the July 13th release, or is this a finished product?

Beyond the 'Glamor', I have noticed:
  • Gameplay seems totally geared towards the offense (besides 'Pro Tak', it doesn't seem that much if any emphasis was placed on improving defensive gameplay)
  • Too many dropped passes (especially wide open receivers and on big plays)
  • DL play is still awful (can't generate pressure from front 4, but CPU creates tons every play; D-Linemen get pancaked and/or fall down just about every play when attempting to swim past blockers)
  • Too many missed tackles (defense looks like chaos on this game; tacklers are falling and diving in every direction but at the ball carrier)
  • Players appear to be skating on ice, sliding all over the place; In my opinion, the running animation doesn't look much more realistic than NCAA 10
  • CPU too souped up on Heisman (they cause lots of pressure on D, but they can sit in the pocket alllllll day on offense; Typical magical CPU A.I. always knows your silent audibles and shift the right way every time you audible; always knows to pass if you run commit before snap or run if you pass commit, etc.)
  • User catch still sucks (WRs are still disabled from facing up and leaping for a catch...like Julio Jones, AJ Green, Malcolm Williams, Jeff Fuller, and all other 6'3" and up college WRs do every week)
  • I’ve played this demo about 30 games or so now and I have yet to see ONE SINGLE pass interference call! Yet, I’ve seen plenty WRs getting bumped and pushed while the ball is in the air.
  • Offense seems to move at a faster pace than defense
  • ‘Locomotion’ feels 'off' a tad bit (watch as you juke from left to right how all of the cpu defenders also juke with you in unison)
  • Too many fumbles!!! (the only way this can be avoided is by choosing 'Conservative' on the 'Big Run' option in the 'Gameplan' screen)

There are other issues I've noticed as well, but I'll stop there. After while, I began to feel that playing NCAA 10 was an insult to football inteligence and I swore I'd not buy NCAA 11. However, with the release of the demo, I was VERY 'glamored' the first day! Now that I've played through the week, I'm beginning to have second thoughts. I cannot bear another year of 'cheeser-friendly' bad gameplay!
Sliders can fix most of the things you said. Pass interference, fumbles, etc. And as for human pass rush - you obviously aren't very good in that area. Because I average about 5 a game total. The skating this is said to be fixed in the retail version. Not sure what you mean about locomotion feels off and bad user catching.
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