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Old 05-05-2010, 03:50 PM   #497
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Yeah I am loving the fact you can KO or TKO people from any position now. I love having their back standing and just knee'ng them to death and then just suplex them to the mat.

Or bouncing them off the cage for a big slam.
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:54 PM   #498
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How do you counter the suplex/slam while the CPU has double underhooks? I swear I see it coming and know it's coming but I can almost never stop it. I tried moving the right stick to the left, but that doesn't do it. Is it a timing thing? Do you have to flick it to the left and not hold it in that position?

Also how do you pull off the sweeps/reversals on the ground with shogun or machida?

Lastly how do you reverse or counter a takedown attempt? Last year I remember you could button mash, but this year do you have to flick the right stick either up, down, left or right?
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:13 PM   #499
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How do you counter the suplex/slam while the CPU has double underhooks? I swear I see it coming and know it's coming but I can almost never stop it. I tried moving the right stick to the left, but that doesn't do it. Is it a timing thing? Do you have to flick it to the left and not hold it in that position?

Also how do you pull off the sweeps/reversals on the ground with shogun or machida?

Lastly how do you reverse or counter a takedown attempt? Last year I remember you could button mash, but this year do you have to flick the right stick either up, down, left or right?
I'm not sure how to reverse the slams (I'm guessing it's a RS flick like last year, but I dunno if it's directional or just a timing thing), but you basically grapple block by pressing RS away when you want to stop them from slamming you or transitioning in the clinch game. Normally if I see them get to underhooks or a body lock, I start holding RS away, as the slam is coming up next. That normally stops the attempt 2 or 3 times (like ground transitions, it seems to work automatically on #3 most of the time), but you have to transition out of trouble or you'll most likely end up on the mat. I hold RS away from my opponent when they try to slam me and it stops them most of the time... haven't experimented much with the flicking.

The ground reversals are the same as last year, find the proper point in the animation as it's triggering and just flick the RS to cause the reversal. I found the timing slightly more difficult for some positions, but about the same overall... I can reverse Rashad pretty much at will with Machida/Shogun, but it's a lot more difficult to reverse those guys with Rampage for example.

To prevent a takedown, hold RS away from the opponent as they shoot. You have to anticipate it to some extent or they seem to always get the takedown. There is another counter (might be wrestler-specific) where Rashad will get a single hook and toss them aside, preventing the takedown. I'm not sure how to trigger that, Darlon did a trial with it and wasn't very successful at getting it to happen... might be a random "takedown stuffed" animation that comes with certain guys rather than an actual command... no idea. But yeah, as soon as you see them shoot, hold RS away and you should stuff it more often than not.

Also, when they're trying to get you down against the cage (i.e. they tried a takedown but you got backed up against the cage and they have your head), I push RS away while holding LS towards them (think pushing off of the cage) and almost never lose that battle... I end up getting them into sprawl and nailing them with a few LB headshots before transitioning to back control or back to standing.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:15 PM   #500
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Two awesome ko's.

Stunned Machida from full guard and automatically postured up and knocked him out.

KO'd Machida with a knee from the Thai Clinch and then threw a head kick as he was falling and kicked him in the head and made him fly to the side.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:20 PM   #501
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I am getting good at the stand up, it's true you really have to fight realistically. I use lots of kicks, punches, and etc and dominate the cpu and they freaking win with one damn punch, pisses me off lol. That's why the KO's need to be toned down.

I still haven't learned how to posture up without getting reversed, this is when I am in full mount, I can posture in full/half guard and etc, although I would have to transition since they are obviously successful at the 3rd attempt.

Now someone said, when they are trying to reverse me, try to block it or something with the right stick flicking and that would posture me up, I really don't know how to do that properly.

If I learn how to properly posture up in FULL MOUNT position without getting reversed, I will be very happy.
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Just be careful with the minor transition timing, like with any transition. If you spam it against Machida, he'll probably end up reversing you. The only guys you can spam transitions against to gain position quickly are Rampage and (to a lesser extent) Rashad. When I get mount down, I normally land a blow or two and then start transition blocking to prevent them from pulling it to half guard, then do 1 or 2 quick minor attempts trying to pull the head up. It normally works on the 2nd or 3rd try depending what they're doing. Once the head's up, I see where they're blocking (generally the head) and pepper their body, watching them to quickly engage the transition block to keep them from rolling into halfguard up. As soon as I block it, I hold LS towards them (or up) and start blasting away with strong LB shots to do as much damage as possible before they manage to get up.

And yeah, I've had some sick knockouts. I tagged Rashad with Rua's signature fake right-then-high left head kick in the final second of a hard-fought match and blasted him for the win. The next fight I KO'd Rua with a Rashad high left kick ha, that time it was in the 2nd though. I also got Machida rocked and greyed out with a NASTY running knee to the body with Rua, then jumped on to finish it with the TKO. So awesome. I just hope there's more than one "fall" animation in the final game, all the KOs look the same.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:08 PM   #503
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I'm not sure how to reverse the slams (I'm guessing it's a RS flick like last year, but I dunno if it's directional or just a timing thing), but you basically grapple block by pressing RS away when you want to stop them from slamming you or transitioning in the clinch game. Normally if I see them get to underhooks or a body lock, I start holding RS away, as the slam is coming up next. That normally stops the attempt 2 or 3 times (like ground transitions, it seems to work automatically on #3 most of the time), but you have to transition out of trouble or you'll most likely end up on the mat. I hold RS away from my opponent when they try to slam me and it stops them most of the time... haven't experimented much with the flicking.

The ground reversals are the same as last year, find the proper point in the animation as it's triggering and just flick the RS to cause the reversal. I found the timing slightly more difficult for some positions, but about the same overall... I can reverse Rashad pretty much at will with Machida/Shogun, but it's a lot more difficult to reverse those guys with Rampage for example.

To prevent a takedown, hold RS away from the opponent as they shoot. You have to anticipate it to some extent or they seem to always get the takedown. There is another counter (might be wrestler-specific) where Rashad will get a single hook and toss them aside, preventing the takedown. I'm not sure how to trigger that, Darlon did a trial with it and wasn't very successful at getting it to happen... might be a random "takedown stuffed" animation that comes with certain guys rather than an actual command... no idea. But yeah, as soon as you see them shoot, hold RS away and you should stuff it more often than not.

Also, when they're trying to get you down against the cage (i.e. they tried a takedown but you got backed up against the cage and they have your head), I push RS away while holding LS towards them (think pushing off of the cage) and almost never lose that battle... I end up getting them into sprawl and nailing them with a few LB headshots before transitioning to back control or back to standing.
Watch rashad doesnt slam you from that. machida and shogun dont have slams from that position but rashad does and you have to time it to reverse it.

reversing a slam is just like reversing a transition
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:44 PM   #504
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I'd like more TKO's too. Really exciting when you rock a guy and he starts backing up and you go into predator mode and try to finish him.
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