The Brett Favre Saga

[bkfount]

Quote: Originally Posted by dbeth

last pass as a Falcon = pick last pass as a Packer = pick - lost 2007-08 NFC title game last pass as a Jet = pick (next pass was illegal forward pass...doesn't count in stats) - kept Jets out of playoffs last pass as a Viking = pick - lost 2009-10 NFC title game retire already Brent

stuff like this is just bitter tears, and I get why it's pointed out, but it's not even correct.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200812...ost-playbyplay

(4:59) (No Huddle) 4-B.Favre pass short left intended for 83-C.Stuckey INTERCEPTED by 21-A.Goodman at MIA 25. 21-A.Goodman to MIA 28 for 3 yards (87-L.Coles).

(:17) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre pass short left to 29-L.Washington to NYJ 5 for 4 yards. Lateral to 4-B.Favre to NYJ 7 for 2 yards. 4-B.Favre pass incomplete short right to 89-J.Cotchery. PENALTY on NYJ-4-B.Favre, Illegal Forward Pass, 3 yards, enforced at NYJ 7.

His last pass as a Jet wasn't an INT, saying otherwise is convenient spinning to fit poorly conceived trash talk. It's actually easier to just hate on Favre for whatever reason currently compels you to, rather than boiling down his career so severely to make him look horrible.

[Bellsprout]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkfount

stuff like this is just bitter tears, and I get why it's pointed out, but it's not even correct. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200812...ost-playbyplay (4:59) (No Huddle) 4-B.Favre pass short left intended for 83-C.Stuckey INTERCEPTED by 21-A.Goodman at MIA 25. 21-A.Goodman to MIA 28 for 3 yards (87-L.Coles). (:17) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre pass short left to 29-L.Washington to NYJ 5 for 4 yards. Lateral to 4-B.Favre to NYJ 7 for 2 yards. 4-B.Favre pass incomplete short right to 89-J.Cotchery. PENALTY on NYJ-4-B.Favre, Illegal Forward Pass, 3 yards, enforced at NYJ 7. His last pass as a Jet wasn't an INT, saying otherwise is convenient spinning to fit poorly conceived trash talk. It's actually easier to just hate on Favre for whatever reason currently compels you to, rather than boiling down his career so severely to make him look horrible.

The illegal forward pass penalty negates the pass attempt. Thus, his last pass as a Jet was an INT.

I don't see how following the rules of stat keeping is "spinning".

[metallicatz]

Regardless, Favre's last INT in that game killed the Jets. They didn't get the ball back until only 17 ticks were left on the clock on that last drive. And shortly after that, Favre pulled a LeBron and snubbed Pennington for the mid-field handshake......and was praised by the tv announcers as he ran for the tunnel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_6zx...eature=related

[Speedy]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkfount

His last pass as a Jet wasn't an INT, saying otherwise is convenient spinning to fit poorly conceived trash talk. It's actually easier to just hate on Favre for whatever reason currently compels you to, rather than boiling down his career so severely to make him look horrible.

I don't consider facts trash talk.

Favre has made inept plays that a man of his experience knows better - that pass to Sidney Rice is a throw I expect Mark Sanchez or 2-3 year player making not a 20-yr vet. I understand his gunslinging mentality and that in some instances it makes him the HOF he is but in crucial moments of the game experienced QBs must understand the importance turnovers have. Any way you want to slice it, it has simply been bad decisions that cost his teams games.

[SPTO]

Here's the embed for the youtube link above:




Anyway, I think if Favre is relatively still healthy he comes back next year.

[travis72]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkfount

stuff like this is just bitter tears, and I get why it's pointed out, but it's not even correct. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200812...ost-playbyplay (4:59) (No Huddle) 4-B.Favre pass short left intended for 83-C.Stuckey INTERCEPTED by 21-A.Goodman at MIA 25. 21-A.Goodman to MIA 28 for 3 yards (87-L.Coles). (:17) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre pass short left to 29-L.Washington to NYJ 5 for 4 yards. Lateral to 4-B.Favre to NYJ 7 for 2 yards. 4-B.Favre pass incomplete short right to 89-J.Cotchery. PENALTY on NYJ-4-B.Favre, Illegal Forward Pass, 3 yards, enforced at NYJ 7. His last pass as a Jet wasn't an INT, saying otherwise is convenient spinning to fit poorly conceived trash talk. It's actually easier to just hate on Favre for whatever reason currently compels you to, rather than boiling down his career so severely to make him look horrible.

Thank you, I am sick of hearing all the hate on a man that has given so much to the game. I am not a Favre lover but you got to give the man respect. Yes he has cost teams wins by INT but yesterday was not one of them. Fumbles and 12 men on the field cost the Vikings the game, Brett's the only reason they were in the game or even playing in the NFC title game. Not the greatest QB ever but certainly the toughest. He took a couple cheap hits yesterday and they still could not knock him out. I am A Drew Brees fan but Manning(the greatest of all time) @ company are going to roll because they won't get to him like the did Favre.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by travis72

Thank you, I am sick of hearing all the hate on a man that has given so much to the game. I am not a Favre lover but you got to give the man respect. Yes he has cost teams wins by INT but yesterday was not one of them. Fumbles and 12 men on the field cost the Vikings the game, Brett's the only reason they were in the game or even playing in the NFC title game. Not the greatest QB ever but certainly the toughest. He took a couple cheap hits yesterday and they still could not knock him out. I am A Drew Brees fan but Manning(the greatest of all time) @ company are going to roll because they won't get to him like the did Favre.

The turnovers cost the Vikings the game and so did the boneheaded 12 men in the huddle. That's on the coach, he has to control the sideline at that crucial moment of the game. 2 of those turnovers were on Favre. He threw into coverage once(3 Saints in the area) and across his body with the game on the line. He had a player open in the right flat or he could have scrambled. As he said, in hindsight, he could have ran with it.

In the heat of the moment, Favre makes mistakes at crucial times. You learn to take the good with the bad with Favre. He had arguably the best career he's ever had, and I'm sure Viking fans were thinking that they were getting the new Favre that will lead their team to the SB.

At a crucial moment, the old Favre showed up.

[metallicatz]

"He had arguably the best career he's ever had"

What other careers has he had? Sorry, just yankin' yer chain.