Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

[volstopfan14]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueNGold

Yeah, probably. The only two off the top of my head that come close are these: I'm not going to bother with the all-time talk. There's been plenty of other dunks that were better.

I thought this was just as good as Barnes over Pekovic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=khnCGF_I3dg

[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by mb625

Speaking honestly here, I don't get all the "Brandon Knight was stupid for getting in the way" stuff. That's called playing defense. He did the only thing he could do in that situation to even have a shot at preventing that dunk, getting in the way of Jordan. I actually really liked the play Knight made. Not too many people in the NBA would be willing to do something like that

I see what you're getting at, but to be extra technical, he did not do the only thing to prevent the dunk... bc he didn't prevent the dunk. In short, ignoring the theatrics and posterization, he gave up two points and a trip to the foul line so whatever he was trying to do didn't work. In that sense, it would've made more sense to get out of the way. I'm not mad at him for trying to do something to prevent it, but in this case he should've gotten out of the way bc he had no choice but to foul and couldn't prevent the shot from going in (two things he probably could've assessed before jumping).

[ex carrabba fan]

Giving up a free dunk to a terrible free throw shooter would be a horrible decision. Give Jordan credit for making a ridiculous play. 9/10 times Jordan gets fouled by Knight and the basket isn't converted. Jordan would then have missed at least one free throw.

You don't give up free lobs/dunks to terrible free throw shooters. Knight absolutely made the right play in trying to contest the dunk/lob/pass.

[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by ex carrabba fan

Giving up a free dunk to a terrible free throw shooter would be a horrible decision. Give Jordan credit for making a ridiculous play. 9/10 times Jordan gets fouled by Knight and the basket isn't converted. Jordan would then have missed at least one free throw. You don't give up free lobs/dunks to terrible free throw shooters. Knight absolutely made the right play in trying to contest the dunk/lob/pass.

1. I give Jordan props which is why I give this dunk a lot of credit no matter how big the guy in front of him was.

2. Knight made the play he should make, hoping Jordan misses. That's not the same as "He did the only thing he could do in that situation to even have" which is what I was responding to... and pre-warned that my response was being technical. It ended up being the wrong play BECAUSE he made the dunk, but (like the post I quoted) I like that he tried anyway. I also agree with the other poster that most good defenders have been posterized. Gotta try even if you're wrong sometimes.

[ex carrabba fan]

I meant "give Jordan credit" in terms of him making a play that really, even someone like him will rarely make. I wasn't saying you didn't give him credit.

Again, Knight wasn't wrong in what he did. It's only that Jordan made an unbelievable play to convert the basket. Knight should not get any sort of criticism for trying to deflect the pass or impede Jordan. You make that play 10/10 times because as I said, most of the time, Jordan doesn't convert the bucket, he gets fouled and he's forced to make a pair of free throws. Something he never does.

[Kashanova]

I think initially Brandon Knight was going for the ball, but didn't realize what was going to happen until it was too late.

[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by ex carrabba fan

I meant "give Jordan credit" in terms of him making a play that really, even someone like him will rarely make. I wasn't saying you didn't give him credit. Again, Knight wasn't wrong in what he did. It's only that Jordan made an unbelievable play to convert the basket. Knight should not get any sort of criticism for trying to deflect the pass or impede Jordan. You make that play 10/10 times because as I said, most of the time, Jordan doesn't convert the bucket, he gets fouled and he's forced to make a pair of free throws. Something he never does.

Not sure what part of any of this is an argument against any of my last post... first or second paragraph.

Summary of said post:

1. Part of what made the dunk amazing was it being a tough play bc of the defender no matter the size.

2. I like that Knight tried to make a play and was being overly technical (and said as much initially and in the last post) about it being the only play he could make.

What are you arguing?

[NbaLiveNba2k]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueNGold

If we're going to talk "best lobbed dunks ever", I'm pretty sure the discussion begins and ends with this:

I'm from Toronto and have watched Vince Carter all my life, but I think this dunk was better than any of Vince's IN THE NBA. not including jumping over frederic weis during the olympics. Vince Carter is the best in game dunker, but i this dunk was the best of all time