NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[TheMatrix31]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I just believe when you sign a contract and you forfeit your right to an open market your compensation is the guarenteed money.

Hm. So just thinking out loud, maybe they could have it so if you stay with your team it can be guaranteed, but if you leave then it would be non-guaranteed. This would make guys like LeBron and such think twice about planning **** 3 years in advance.

Might have some kinks but would be interesting.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

But wasn't the league also seeking a 46% split of BRI at the sametime?

Separate issues. Hunter made it clear to Stern that they would be willing to negotiate with Stern about the BRI but not about a hard/flex cap. If Stern stuck with that, we wouldnt have had half the negotiations we've already seen.

[CMH]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

Thats the point I was making earlier... not once did Hunter or Fish do this..not ONCE. So again, who are they barganing for again

I know you know it's obviously for the stars.

When Kevin Garnett is showing his ugly mug around to stomp his feet, it's clear.

Considering most of the players speaking about just wanting to play are not superstars, it shows me who has been part of the negotiation process.

But that's also the non-stsr's fault. Everything is about networking and if you let the stars hang together and take office then they run things.


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[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Star driven league, in more ways than one.

And you need not look any farther then David Stern if you want to know who is responsible for that. He and the league where 100% OK riding the coat tails of the players to prosperity. Now they are trying to "check" the very same party they built the league on.

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by CMH

I know you know it's obviously for the stars. When Kevin Garnett is showing his ugly mug around to stomp his feet, it's clear. Considering most of the players speaking about just wanting to play are not superstars, it shows me who has been part of the negotiation process. But that's also the non-stsr's fault. Everything is about networking and if you let the stars hang together and take office then they run things. Sent from my mobile device.

Its not a mystery to me at all, but guys like KG wont even be in the league too much longer, and he has already made a ton of money

..then Fisher goes off into some drivel about future CBA's when its probably not even legal to negotiate for someone not even in their union...thats such a farce

I'd be ticked though If I was one of the lesser guys because its their union thats strongarming them in the process

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

And you need not look any farther then David Stern if you want to know who is responsible for that. He and the league where 100% OK riding the coat tails of the players to prosperity. Now they are trying to "check" the very same party they built the league on.

LOL. That statement is so ridiculous I dont know where to start. If it wasnt for the league those "stars" wouldnt be stars.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Separate issues. Hunter made it clear to Stern that they would be willing to negotiate with Stern about the BRI but not about a hard/flex cap. If Stern stuck with that, we wouldnt have had half the negotiations we've already seen.

Both sides have said plenty of things they wouldn't do/offer that they are currently doing/offering. So I'm sure if the league took a hard line on a flexcap the players would have still negotiated to a similar stale mate if not getting futher. I think with the majority of players giving a change in money or a change in system they would have elected to change the system.

[OSUFan_88]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

And you need not look any farther then David Stern if you want to know who is responsible for that. He and the league where 100% OK riding the coat tails of the players to prosperity. Now they are trying to "check" the very same party they built the league on.

Blaming David Stern for the NBPA bargaining strategy is a new one.