CONFIRMED: NBA Elite 11 Delayed until 2011

[pdawg17]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Like one of the mods said I rather this be a cover up ,because I can understand it and I would do the samething if EA was my employer. After all there is no way you guys bash your own game. But the refs dont move ,there are no injuries ,guys jumping without bending at the knees(yes I understand this was done on purpose ,but that doesnt make it right) guys doing things in humanly possible and the great A.I. we where promised is non-exsistent. So if you know all of this and still try to sell the game you either dont understand what important to most of us or your turning a blind eye. Once again I rather the latter.

I still don't understand your logic here...what would you have preferred the devs do differently? At first you say you would do the same thing in their position yet you're saying at the end that the two "possible scenarios" are both inexcusable...

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by pdawg17

I still don't understand your logic here...what would you have preferred the devs do differently? At first you say you would do the same thing in their position yet you're saying at the end that the two "possible scenarios" are both inexcusable...

I'm not blaming them. I thought I said this before. There appear to be some serious lack of communication with Elite devs and the decision makers. They should have been aware of this decision or at the very least the idea that something like this could happen. They seem as surprised as we are.

[StickeeGreen]

Quote: Originally Posted by Db-Ransom

took the words right out my mouth, live 10 was an amazing basketball game minus the glitches.. i say it was way better then 2k10..... if they can somehow incorporate RTP, the new skill based shooting with the addition of the "grey zone" (explained in one of my previous posts), improve the graphics, so we can have the best looking basketball game ever... theyd be miles ahead of 2k

I got some great stuff...But please pass me what your smoking...

[welcome2jungle]

i would want the game to drop personally i like competition.. i pre ordered both do that every year.. last year i like nba live 2010 more than 2k10.. i would say Commentating was great i did enjoy that alot in demo.. not 2 happy to read bout this delay.. but old teams should be in nba elite / live thats a given right there playing with the legends makes the video game more fun.. How nba jam had legends in it but i didnt read about nba elite 11 having any legends??

[pdawg17]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I'm not blaming them. I thought I said this before. There appear to be some serious lack of communication with Elite devs and the decision makers. They should have been aware of this decision or at the very least the idea that something like this could happen. They seem as surprised as we are.

That I agree with 100%...if I were a dev on this game I would be extremely pissed right about now...

[Court_vision]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I'm not trying to make this uncomfortable for devs at all. OS is very dev-friendly and I think I've been respectful. With that said, I'm not going to hold my tongue when I think something is BS. What's disappointing for me is the entire process we've been through with Elite. 2 months ago, 23 and other people came online after previewing the game and gave fair but negative reviews of the version they played. The videos looked bad too. All we heard from EA was "that was an older version of the game" and "wait until u play the demo before you judge it". So we did. The demo came out and it had numerous glitches and appeared to be a big step back from Live. So what did we hear "The game is great User v. User" and "a patch will fix most problems". A week later the game is delayed for at least 4 mos because its according to Peter Moore "lacks gameplay polish". My question is what version of the game were the EA employees who raved about this game playing? I've kept my mouth shut for months about this but today's announcement and subsequent thank yous to EA caused me to speak up. What gets me is that you and I know that if the backlash was just a little bit less, EA would have released the game. In my decade of being at EA, I've never seen a major release demo get this much negative attention. There was 1 positive impression for every 20 negative one. My point is it took a unprecedented backlash to cause them to delay it and based on the way they promoted and hyped the game before and after the demo, I dont trust that EA would have pulled the game if they werent guaranteed to take a huge loss.

Very good post.

[blues rocker]

the impression I get from the people leading and working on Live is that they are casual basketball fans...now I can't expect every person working on the game to be a basketball expert, but it seems to me that there was no one on that team who was really a basketball person to lead it and make sure it was authentic and covered every aspect of the game...in Live 10 i believe that person was Mike Wang...and now the game is being led by a guy who probably never shot a basketball in his life...i wonder if the lead producer of Elite even watched the NBA playoffs last year...2k's real strength is that the people leading their game (Mike Wang and Rob Jones) are true basketball fanatics that know the sport inside and out.

Elite strikes me as a game made by people with limited knowledge of the sport...the game focuses on the most rudimentary parts of the game (dribbling, crossovers, shooting) and ignores the more complex parts of the game (strategy, AI, etc.)...this leads me to believe that there is not a lot of real basketball knowledge coming from Elite's leaders...i have a hard time believing true basketball fans could've produced a game like Elite.

So, maybe one of their first steps should be to get a real basketball person in there to make sure everything is working like real basketball and to flesh out the AI and strategy so it is more authentic.

[pdawg17]

Quote: Originally Posted by blues rocker

the impression I get from the people leading and working on Live is that they are casual basketball fans...now I can't expect every person working on the game to be a basketball expert, but it seems to me that there was no one on that team who was really a basketball person to lead it and make sure it was authentic and covered every aspect of the game...in Live 10 i believe that person was Mike Wang...and now the game is being led by a guy who probably never shot a basketball in his life...i wonder if the lead producer of Elite even watched the NBA playoffs last year...2k's real strength is that the people leading their game (Mike Wang and Rob Jones) are true basketball fanatics that know the sport inside and out.

What makes you think the devs have "not shot a basketball in his life" or "watched the NBA playoffs"? Gimme a break dude...