NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

[wmassie]

Quote: Originally Posted by lnin0

Nothing wrong with retooling your game. There is something wrong with not holding it back for a full 18 mo. dev cycle it takes to build a proper game. Even more disturbing is that EA is going to go ahead and sell this alpha version for $60 to the public. Talk about beta testers ... you would be a fool not to wait on this one a year.

The suits would never approve of a longer dev cycle which this game really needs. They depend on the revenue stream a yearly release generates and they know they have a dependable buying pool to justify it. And let's face it - even on this site we so called hard-core simheads complain more about graphics or wether the bench reactions are realistic or if a player has the right kind of socks than if the game plays a realistic brand of basketball. Seems the arcade brand of basketball has a bigger audience.

[Mbalmer]

Quote: Originally Posted by HOLLIDAY1183

Also had a weird scenario where Gasol was posting me up from almost right under the rim, repeatedly pumpfaking. The shotclock went from about 16 to 6 or seven seconds. When I realized he wasn't going to shoot it, AND that there'd be no 3 second violation, I actually backed off and left him alone for the (assumed) easy score. But he continued to fake until the 1 second mark, after which he completed an awkward twisting 2 ft jumper.

I just wanted to quote this because it is a perfect example of a weird scenario that I see througout the game. It is just one weird little thing after another. I really am amazed that this game is going to release like this.

Like alot of people on here, I wish they would have built on Live 10 because I really liked that game alot and saw a ton of potential with it. I put it in last night after playing the demo and it just made the demo look that much worse.

[JWiLL02]

I'm really trying to understand why some are saying one of the positives of this game is that "When I get a steal or block, I did it myself!"

Um, so what basketball games were you playing before where you didn't initiate your own blocks and steals? Sure, your AI team mates may have picked some up themselves, but I see no way in which Elite 11 has superior on ball defense to any other game.

I've found the number of steals to be absurd myself. Why the hell is Rondo constantly being ripped off the dribble for no reason? Are you telling me Chris Paul is going to have a hard time just keeping his dribble? That's sure what it looks like.

Blocking in itself is just broken. I can't get behind the instant, high flying perimeter defense being played by EVERYONE in the league. Ray Allen shouldn't be able to instantly rise up and slap away Kobe's shot, especially when Kobe was already in a shooting motion BEFORE he got into position. Please.

I can't tell if you guys are just being nice or if you don't know what you're talking about?

[GBPackers27]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmakers

LOL! How the heck did you get that guy to stay at halfcourt and play dead..... Love the commentary had me rolling.....i'm going to show it to some people at work. They are going to trip out at that broadcasting you did.....

The broadcasting the guy did is downright hilarious lol, I was literally crying I laughed so hard. But yeah I didnt make the video or do the commentary

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31

I'm at the point where I am not making too many user errors with my players,..except for the passing!! I'm not sure if I understand how this R1+L stick is supposed to function..I think I am passing to one guy but the ball goes somewhere else. I have a hunch that where your pass goes has something to do with the facing who you want to throw the pass to? If I can figure that out, my enjoyment level will go up another notch

Aim the pass with the left stick, execute the pass with RT.

The longer you hold down RT, the farther the pass will go.

As you hold down RT, there will be an indicator displayed under the player the pass is intended to go to based on your inputs.

This will change as you change your aim, or as you power up longer.

This should give you a better idea of what influence you inputs have on the pass targetting, and should help remove the mystery of where the pass is going to go.

[wmassie]

Quote: Originally Posted by oOausarOo

Random thoughts: * The controls are excellent. Everything made sense from the first time I ran through the tutorial. Everything feels responsive and natural to me. I was expecting the worse based on comments, but I picked up the basics in no time. * They definitely need a sprint button, but I'm not thinking the conventional nba gaming turbo button. I'm thinking kinda like a first step burst, not a hold down and sprint button. My vision is you would be able to sprint for a time after you first press the sprint button and get your burst, but you wouldn't have to hold it down. Different players would have different ratings also. i.e. a big like Bynum would have basically no first step burst and a very slow, short lasting sprint while John Wall would have a quick first step and be able to sprint for a longer period of time and obviously be faster. * I can somewhat feel the "real time physics" while playing the game. Watching the game it's hard to get a feel for it. I understand what people were saying weeks ago. At this point I still consider the "RTP" underwhelming and over marketed. * I wouldn't be surprised if Elite's 5v5 gameplay is superior to 2k's, not just wrt connectivity, but specifically with quality of gameplay. Elite has the potential to be significantly better in that area depending on their sliders, online setup, etc... and how much 2k improves. * Visually the series needs an overhaul. I think most people realize this. I can live with the subpar graphics / player models, but it's 2010-2011. It's unacceptable for them to be so far behind animation-wise and signature style-wise. This isn't an XBLA game, step it up. Being weak in this area kills replay value for me. I can play 2k for a year and see animations I've either never seen before or have rarely seen. Even the most basic of animations have no fluidity and look robotic/awkward. Enough is enough, they need to take care of these things to be taken serious as a NBA franchise. It's really baffling to me that animations and basic transiitions are still this bad. This is way more concerning to me than the graphics. * The game has potential. They are providing a viable alternative. I don't agree with people who wanted an upgraded Live 10. What would the purpose of that be? 2k11 is already an upgraded Live 10 way beyond what EA could have done. They needed to provide something that 2k doesn't gameplay-wise. * It's weird how the cpu just stands in front of you defending you like a statue. I like that they don't bite on anything and everything, but visually it looks like a video game and not like basketball. * I'm big into user vs. user gameplay so I'm not that concerned about poor AI in regards to playing against the cpu. I will wait to see vids of user vs. user online and to see if they have a decent online setup for this game. I'm definitely open to giving it a try. I felt Live 10 was so strong in this area. Actually it might have been the best I've seen in a basketball game. I don't agree with those who wanted a upgraded Live 10, but I will agree it would have been nice of they had incorporated this new structure and maintained more of the strong points from Live 10. Those are just my early thoughts based on a couple hours. I could change my mind as time goes on.

People still don't get it. Whether you play cpu vs. cpu, user vs. cpu, or user vs. user, without a strong, realistic AI all game modes will suffer. It is just like the bass in music and black levels for video - without those foundations realism suffers. Accurate player tendencies and a robust AI is where they should be spending their time. Once they nail those, everything else will be gravy. I implore the developers to listen - you need to make sure the foundation is solid before trying to be esoteric. The synergy/dynamic dna stuff is great in theory but look how it destroyed fastbreaks in Live 10. Fix the foundation.

[bigjames9715]

GARBAGE!!!! I hate 2 say it but EA has fallen off major!!! they messed up TIGER, MADDEN, and now NBA!!! they not getting anymore of my money!!! definitely getting NBA 2k 11!!! it's tight!!!

BIg James

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mintsa

Can any of the Devs comment on this ?? Is this only a "demo" thing for the PS3 ?? Will it be cleaned up for the retail game ??? Sidenote: Why do the players always run after the ball out of bounds ?? I believe that was a problem in live 09 ??? Why has it come back again this season ??

The performance issues on ps3 were being addressed right up to the end, so they should be fixed, yes.

I haven' played the final approved game yet, but it was one of the last things being worked on when I left.