NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

[Jonesy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Admiral50

I was probably the biggest fan of Live 10, it made huge improvements, had probably the greatest control of any bball game and some nice animations. That's why it pains me to say that Elite 11 looks absolutely terrible. Even with the NBA Jam pack in, it won't sell at all.

I was a big fan of live 10 as well and this clearly looks like a regression imo. The only word i can use to describe the game play we've seen so far is disappointment. Lot's of quirks and bugs, poorly animated and sloppy and not really looking like a 'next gen' sports title should.

I appreciate the dev's posting vids etc and will still be all over the demo but seriously it ain't looking good so far.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy

All fair critique.

The only thing I wanted to point out is that the ankle breakers happen in response to user input and aren't a direct result of what the dribbler is doing. So it is possible for them to play in odd situations if the user is doing the wrong thing.

They happen if you trigger a defensive hop and then change directions too quickly, or if you attempt too many steals while changing direction frantically.

So although it's true that it looks odd in this clip, it is as a result of user input which is consistent across the board.

[TheKasmar]

Quote: Originally Posted by RIZDRAVER

You really think these are ultra-old videos?

I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. Since its not the final build, I only want to comment on what I've seen and not act like it's the final product. The next video they put out could amaze us.

[mvb34]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dawgthem

`````````` Before 0:07 yes that is TNt opening sports music,..wierd that its on Nba Elite?../

Wrong try again..

[jfsolo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jano

I'm not saying it's okay because its not, the game does look extremely bad in certain spots no question on about it. But the thing I'm asking is if you can beat a guy (or the AI) and you know that you won't have to deal with an animation or exploits determining the outcome will this stuff be okay? If you are okay with it the dev team made a good decision. If not the dev team may have been wrong in assuming players want total control. Maybe they just want a game that looks great more then anything else. And I'm not saying it cant look great and play great at the same time. What I'm saying is maybe users don't care for total control as much as they say they do. So basically if this style of game isn't going to be fun to you AT ALL then the risk the devs took this year was a failure for you. And if that's the case all the devs can do is hope that a certain percentage of basketball fans like the idea of total control and can have fun with it. This way they can establish some type of fanbase and then hopefully build it up as the game gets more on par with its competition.

Great Post. They've put all their eggs into one philosophical basket, deciding that total control is exponentially more important then anything else. So, as you say, we'll now see how many gamers subscribe to that philosophy.

I feel like the average online player will love this game. Since everything will be about what they do on the sticks. Winning and losing completely in their hands, just the way they want it.

[yungflo]

nice , mike breen! I'm impressed with the presentation but it seems like it was too easy to shake the defender.

[mvb34]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

Great Post. They've put all their eggs into one philosophical basket, deciding that total control is exponentially more important then anything else. So, as you say, we'll now see how many gamers subscribe to that philosophy. I feel like the average online player will love this game. Since everything will be about what they do on the sticks. Winning and losing completely in their hands, just the way they want it.

Is that a bad thing?? I'm really confused..

[jfsolo]

Quote: Originally Posted by mvb34

Is that a bad thing?? I'm really confused..

Its neither good nor bad, but simply an observation/prediction about who the target audience is or may be.