NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

[ehh]

Nice to see some sim gameplay. Definitely a lot better than the other vids.

First thing that stands out to me is that outside of the ball handling the rest of the game is the polar opposite of smooth. Things just look really clunky. Animations and play in the paint is where things seem to really get ugly, the rebounding sequence on the Knicks' last offensive position was seriously something out of Live 95. A few guys jumping in unison with the same leaping animation. Jumpers seem weird, either too flat or the ball travels too fast to the rim. Probably a combination of the both.

I wish the Bucks user would have continued on his fastbreak chance (around the 1:10 mark I think) instead of pausing on the left wing and bringing the ball out. The transition game was non-existent in Live 10, woulda been nice to see what coulda happened on that possession.

The strengths of the game look like they'll remain the same from Live 10. Playcalling and running, spacing/rotations (Gallo's one dribble pullup with that much created space just doesn't happen in the other game) and half court play in general. I also liked that the on-ball defender (in non-user controlled moments) pressured the ball on the perimeter. In L10 the CPU would sag off too far no matter who the player was.

After Live '10 I figured Elite would be a day-one purchase for me but I don't think that's the case anymore, though the demo could change it. I'll probably pick it up used in Jan-Feb for a change of pace from the other basketball game. It looks like a positive start in some aspects (no more sucked in collisions in the paint is huge) but animations are going to need major, major work going forward. Also disappointing that some guys look off visually and that Gallo, Chandler, etc didn't get a signature jumper after it was way off in L10.


Thanks for posting the vid EA.

Quote: Originally Posted by Teebone21

what i want to know is what made nba live 10 so "fun" considering it was of lower quality than 2k10. is it the learning curve to 2k's game?

PLEASE tell me you're still not on that kick. For real man, why do you even come to the Elite forum?

[kingpnp]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigballa21

Interesting........i think EA predicted that the game so far would be looked at in a negative light and decided to pack Elite with Nba jam for more incentive....I think someone here said it best when they said that EA is in "wait until next year" mode...they build something from scratch then they say in not so many words that it is in the first year of implementation and the next year it should be better...that's where things fall off the rails somewhere between the first year and the second something changes and they start all over again with a whole new "vision" IMO

what happens is sales happen. and You guys complain about Looks and graphics, shoes, little things that may be cherry stuff/whip cream stuff. but not things that will make the game play like a hoop Sim. they start on trying to make a hoop sim. and the fans respond just like in this thread. "looks horrible, commentators, it looks like old live, blah blah blah" not that they're wrong. they are right to an extent and can voice their opinions. the problem is no one realizes if you keep saying graphics, graphics, graphics. thats what they will end up changing the direction to graphics and animations that you cant break out of because it wont look smooth. its not about basketball its about the LOOK and nothing else is what they hear. so they will change the game to be what you want it to be. there are only a few of us who REALLy want a sim game. we are in the minority. if you dont believe it, listen to this thread. what is the biggest complaint? the look/graphical appeal. even after they told us all that graphics would suffer. so this is a get your hands on it game. even still they talk about graphics/look.

here's the deal, put up with wack graphics this year if you find out in the demo that the total control thing is great, just look wack.

next year they will combine the two. you say they change every year? not true. they are now adding on to things. they had the downloads from synergy sports that changed the basketball gaming for ever. now they are going with real time physics. this will do the same. now they need to present a better LOOKING game. they will have all year for that before nba elite 12. this is not the usual"next year" talk. they did the same thing with NHL. they revamped it. and it took a few years to be the best sports game out there so people swear.

[pdawg17]

Quote: Originally Posted by Teebone21

what i want to know is what made nba live 10 so "fun" considering it was of lower quality than 2k10. is it the learning curve to 2k's game?

"Lower quality" is an opinion...metacritic averages a score of 82-83 for the other game and 80-81 for Live 10...not much different when you include a lot of opinions...

[pies]

I'm starting to see what they are trying to do with the new controls, I can imagine this game being way more fun to "play" as opposed to how it "looks" but I'm all about gameplay, so I'm excited about the demo....I just hate that camera angle...I need my broadcast angle that makes it seem way more realistic IMO.

[corleone89bkk]

Quote: Originally Posted by havok023

for those saying the graphics are bad turn the video up to 720p and youll see the difference

I've played the 720p version but it still lame nothing spectacular... don't try to keep your hopes alive to a game that is very far and not even trying to keep up with the competition. We are talking EA here one of the biggest game company there is and this is all they can do?! Again sorry guys just want you all to know that we just have to accept what's good and what is not. Peace!!!! hehehe... my opinion only...

[Conda]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goffs

Can't see the vid since I'm on the phone...how does the garden sound like? Is it like last year?

It works on iPhone. That's what I'm on right now.

[bawlinb]

i agree with some of the other statements here ..this game really hasnt changed much other than the name itself...especially the same suspect herky jerky player movement...your only kidding yourself if u think this is a vast improvement over last year. and im not trying to bash this title but cmon ea this isnt gonna cut it

[Mike Smoove]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingpnp

what happens is sales happen. and You guys complain about Looks and graphics, shoes, little things that may be cherry stuff/whip cream stuff. but not things that will make the game play like a hoop Sim. they start on trying to make a hoop sim. and the fans respond just like in this thread. "looks horrible, commentators, it looks like old live, blah blah blah" not that they're wrong. they are right to an extent and can voice their opinions. the problem is no one realizes if you keep saying graphics, graphics, graphics. thats what they will end up changing the direction to graphics and animations that you cant break out of because it wont look smooth. its not about basketball its about the LOOK and nothing else is what they hear. so they will change the game to be what you want it to be. there are only a few of us who REALLy want a sim game. we are in the minority. if you dont believe it, listen to this thread. what is the biggest complaint? the look/graphical appeal. even after they told us all that graphics would suffer. so this is a get your hands on it game. even still they talk about graphics/look. here's the deal, put up with wack graphics this year if you find out in the demo that the total control thing is great, just look wack. next year they will combine the two. you say they change every year? not true. they are now adding on to things. they had the downloads from synergy sports that changed the basketball gaming for ever. now they are going with real time physics. this will do the same. now they need to present a better LOOKING game. they will have all year for that before nba elite 12. this is not the usual"next year" talk. they did the same thing with NHL. they revamped it. and it took a few years to be the best sports game out there so people swear.

Graphics isn't my problem in this vid although it is bad, its the on court gameplay. It was bad.