NBA Elite 11 Video: Kevin Durant, Brandon Jennings & Stephen Curry Talk New Controls

[joel0078]

It's funny how people see the same thing so differently! I like that they put out all these videos and all this promoting of the game, because 2k puts out just about zero when it comes to advertising this early and getting to see previews about next years title always gets me eager.... But the bottom line remains that ultimately, no one can comment on how great or terrible this game will be until we've each played it for ourselves.

The one thing I don't understand is how guys who have played previous versions of Live, can say these videos look great are are even impressive at all. On the surface, it looks the same as Live 09 and Live 10. The ONLY reason I know this is "Elite" and not a previous version of the Live series, is because the developers are saying so and because the controller icon at the bottom of the screen.

[ajknows]

I know it's a w.i.p but that was bad. The sliding was horrid, and the d on Curry had no awareness...

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It's still early so I hope alot of this will be taken care of... but with each vid they show my hype meter goes down.

[Teebone21]

rockets players are dancing in those pics. EA needs to realized that nba players arent always in the defensive stance. only the person guarding the ball is

[mz3v3ry504]

ok controls......blah! we understand.....now....fix the graphics...WIP...i don't care those graphics are horrible nowhere near realistic

[dirtypuppet]

Quote: Originally Posted by Teebone21

rockets players are dancing in those pics. EA needs to realized that nba players arent always in the defensive stance. only the person guarding the ball is

Good point.

[Behindshadows]

Quote: Originally Posted by DaveDQ

Those controls will be nice but the game still has that awkward choppy movement. That's something that pulled me away from Live 10. It's almost like the animations are missing a step. The same with the ball physics. The ball looks so heavy at times.

It's more of a joint movement issue...I've played real basketball for 20 + years.

And never have I seen player move so stiff, no hip movement, elbow joints with no fluctuations or directions. Knees not bending on jumps and so on.

It's definitely the animations that are killing their titles, as it has been since Live 06. Players are too stiff....I hope more will come of it. Plus EA use to be masters at graphics, but the images / videos have shown the lack of all things graphically impressive. Too bland, lack of detail, lightning, etc.

But then again, it's a W.I.P and more will be shown later.

[rEAnimator]

Quote: Originally Posted by taxinem

holding onto tha ball in order to get enough power and a better release gives the defender a better opportunity to block ur shot... that's has to be fixed!!! grant hill got his shot blocked cuz he was holding on to the ball to get enough power (I guess) we he should have released early to avoid the block... with no variation this could get ugly!!! nice video tho...

We've got another thread talking about the early/late shot mechanic, and I think there are some valid points and good suggestions in that thread.

However, I don't feel that this criticism is really fair. Let me explain why.

My understanding of the controls in Live last year is that the timing of the button release would influence the likelihood that the shot would go in. But you had little to no control over when the shot would be released. Not only that, but the "perfect" release time was the peak of the jump shot when the player released the ball (more or less).

The blocked shot you're referring to in the video happens at the peak of the shot, which is also the "perfect" time to release the ball in Elite. This is not different from last year, and is pretty much common practice in basketball sim games (as far as I understand it).

Now in Elite this year, you have the freedom to release the shot at ANY time in the shot animation. That level of control is unprecedented.

The timing window will be smaller/larger depending on ratings and the difficulty of the shot.

What this means is that the shot in this video may very well have still gone in had the user released earlier. Remember, you don't have to wait until the "perfect" release point to get the basket. If you have a skilled shooter, are close to the net or have an uncontested shot you can release early or late and still get the shot in.

How early and how late depends on a lot of factors as I mentioned. But these are things that you can learn, and with practice you can get better and better over time.

Had the shot HUD been displayed in this video you would have seen all the options open to the shooter. And you'll get that info when playing the game in practice mode.

I hope what I've explained makes sense. There are definitely animation glitches in the video which is to be expected with a work in progress.

But don't take the fact that this one shot happened to be blocked to mean that the shooting system is fundamentally broken.

The bottom line is you have an incredible amount of control over your shots in Elite, more so than any other basketball game that I've seen.

I can't wait until you guys get a chance to try the demo when it comes out, and you'll understand what I mean.

[Haval93]

Quote: Originally Posted by Teebone21

rockets players are dancing in those pics. EA needs to realized that nba players arent always in the defensive stance. only the person guarding the ball is

Your wrong, it's taught that you should always be in your stance on defense. So you ready to move with your player and ready to help. That's what I have been taught and see when people are playing basketball.

But yes, at times they aren't for whatever reason in a defensive stance, if that's the case then they are just standing around and will get yelled at and get taken out of the game. I say keep it the way it is.