NBA Elite 11 Video: Kevin Durant, Brandon Jennings & Stephen Curry Talk New Controls

[idrisguitar]

this generation, ea sports is on the ball (except madden.....seriously that still leaves me totally confused)

but yeah first fifa and nhl, and now this game. even if it doesn't turn out as good as those two, at least you are truly trying to change the game and improve video game basketball properly.

i loved 2k, but it is simply just a last gen game with updated graphics and more modes. (and more glitches )

as long as everyone gives constructive criticism to EA then everything is great, because you KNOW there is a demo coming. so poeople coming in here and saying "omg my god that video sucks im not getting the game" are just pathetic, because firstly it helps noone, and secondly, why rule it out when they are literally letting you try it for free when its ready!!!!

i love the fact there are EA reps on this forum actively posting. and personally im very optimistic about this game. i dont care about some rough animations and rough graphics, if the gameplay genuinely feels fresh and playable. (which i kind of thought live 10 AND 2k10 wasn't)

bball is my favourite sport, but a bball game has not made choose it over fifa/nhl/mlb the show for years now. and i personally would love the reinvention to be a succsessful one.

[joel0078]

Quote: Originally Posted by thomonkey

hey reanimator, i just wanted to mention that i am in full support of what you are guys are doing. I have no problem sacrificing pretty looking animations for more control. other basketball games have looked very pretty but the control is terrible. I think that in the great sports games like mlb 10, fifa, you definitely have some unrealistic looking movements but in the end you overlook it because the responsiveness and control is so much better. I always prefer gameplay over eye candy so please dont listen to anybody saying you should put in more animations/put more frames in to blending animations which will sacrifice control. I want to play a video game not watch a basketball game.

If this is how you feel, you can probably find an old colecovision console on ebay, and you could spend your days playing endless matches of pacman and donkey kong. Of course graphics and animations matter! They don't necessarily make or break a game, but let's be real here, you can't have an enjoyable basketball video game without having realistic animations to make it believable. I don't care how good the controls are. If you just wanna have fun and you don't care about that stuff, go play double dribble. It had terrible graphics and even worse animations, but it was super fun.

We live in a day of age where these things do matter and they are expected to be up to par, simultaneously. This isn't 1986 or even 1996, where the technology was limited and or different back then. Those games, for that time period, were great, but with the the advances in technology that are available today, there isn't one reason why a consumer wouldn't expect to have the best of graphics, animations and controls. I can deal with sub par graphics, but player movement and animations on and off ball have to be believable these days. And if they're not, stand by to continue being #2.

[joel0078]

Quote: Originally Posted by ParisB

The last thing we need is to follow 2k's path.

You're hysterical. Since you mentioned 2k, I'll say this.....It's all good if you don't like 2k, to each his own. I've purchased both games every year, for the last 8 years... When you say "last thing they need to do is follow 2k's path" do you mean, sell 3 million copies or do you mean to be consistently reviewed (subjective of course) as the best basketball video game on the market??

Anyhow, for the sake of this thread, Paris, keep 2k out of it. If you wanna talk about 2k, go to the 2k forums.

[©roke]

Quote: Originally Posted by joel0078

You're hysterical. Since you mentioned 2k, I'll say this.....It's all good if you don't like 2k, to each his own. I've purchased both games every year, for the last 8 years... When you say "last thing they need to do is follow 2k's path" do you mean, sell 3 million copies or do you mean to be consistently reviewed (subjective of course) as the best basketball video game on the market?? Anyhow, for the sake of this thread, Paris, keep 2k out of it. If you wanna talk about 2k, go to the 2k forums.

I think Paris wants 2 different bball games. Key word, different. That way, everyone can choose the game he likes more (or like you, buy both).

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by joel0078

You're hysterical. Since you mentioned 2k, I'll say this.....It's all good if you don't like 2k, to each his own. I've purchased both games every year, for the last 8 years... When you say "last thing they need to do is follow 2k's path" do you mean, sell 3 million copies or do you mean to be consistently reviewed (subjective of course) as the best basketball video game on the market?? Anyhow, for the sake of this thread, Paris, keep 2k out of it. If you wanna talk about 2k, go to the 2k forums.

Calm down. I didn't read that comment as a slight.

He's right. I personally don't want two exact titles on the market. That's the way this genre was going last year.

They both need to offer their own experience while respecting the NBA and the sport of basketball. That's all. Of course the goal is to be successful in the market and that's obviously not what one should be saying.

[ParisB]

Quote: Originally Posted by ©roke

I think Paris wants 2 different bball games. Key word, different. That way, everyone can choose the game he likes more (or like you, buy both).

Exactly

After seeing FIFA and NHL series start bringing it, I'm cautiously excited about the new direction of Elite, with amazing controls and real time physics.

What I didn't want to see happen is for Elite to head the other way, by adding layers and layers of animations and canned sequences and dice rolls Live 10 had nice additions like freestyle passing and solid AI, but canned animations and such were annoying, but it seems that a lot of people prefer it.

I like what the other game has to offer, but I prefer a different direction and don't want to play a different version of the same game. That's all.

Ideally I want to keep buying both and playing whichever I'm in the mood for that day and know I will be getting good basketball but different experiences.

[dwade3]

Nba Live 10 was PERFECT... the only i hated was lack to animation and automatic crossovers... now they changed to manual crossovers.

The BEST thing live 10 was interior defence... in nba 2k10 i can dunk whenever i want but in nba live 10 u cant dunk unless u earn it.

[kingpnp]

Quote: Originally Posted by ParisB

I don't think they need anybody telling them how to do their jobs. No offense, but they do programming for a living and know what they're doing and have the appropriate people involved in all facets. Hey, they're adding real time physics and unprecedented control to the User...let's just be happy with their vision and progress The last thing we need is to follow 2k's path.

actually they do need someone to give them hints and tips. thats what these blogs/forums are for. why do you think he's on here talking? just maybe we will say something he could take to the bank and make a slight change that could be huge. you never know. thats the beauty of the internet. and just because he does programming for a living and i dont. doesn't mean he couldn't use my help. i dont know if you know this but there are other people in his team that dont do programming at all and probably dont know much about it. but guess what? they still give input. usually they give a vision and the programmers have to tell them how much of that vision is feasible. and then the programmers are asked to go a little above that. even though the non programmer manager doesn't know programming inside and out(he could/she could, but doesn't have to ). next thing you know the Ea programmers are making the best game of their lives. much better then what they originally stated they COULD make. this happens all the time. on the flip side a wack product comes out with a big wig pushing to hard not knowing what the heck he/she is talking about and trying to force the issue. thats where the garbage in, garbage out comes from.

if he told me what he was doing in "programmer" speak. I would understand him. i just haven't been up on programming since i was a little kid. but the basics never change. most thing are IF, then statements. its even like that with Excel formulas. thats comes from a computer language called "BASIC". i was programming in basic and translating old school apple IIc programs into Commodore 64 programs. commodore=pc, when i was in the 4th grade. i just got off of it because my computer broke a few years later and i didn't really get back into computers until high school a hint (autocad) and then into college, but even then i was messing around on the internet and that was that. I produce music via my computer. but before it blew up. i was doing it all computer based while everyone else was paying $60/hr for studio time. so maybe you should ask me who i am before you tell me, not to SUGGEST to an EA programmer what COULD possibly be done to help us all.

i'm just trying to help or at the very least get a good understanding why things are the way they are. he broke some stuff down that i didnt think about until he said it. without my questions and suggestions. that breakdown may have never happened.