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[ojandpizza]

I agree with LeBron getting Rose's MVP but that would have made LeBron get 4 straight and they probably wouldn't have voted him over Durant this year.. I'm ok with LeBron not getting it but Rose definitely didn't deserve it..

[andeee]

Quote: Originally Posted by HisMommaCallHimClay

Idk the bulls did flourish when rose got his occational injuries. That is a very well coached team. For that matter, any well coached defensive team is gonna succeed.

See my above post.

Quote: Originally Posted by HisMommaCallHimClay

Clev was a good defensive team w/ bron, that I recall but they wasn't **** when he left. Also think Lebron should have got roses MVP. I know I'm way off topic.Lol I don't even know what the topic is.

That team was built around Lebron, plus Lebron was not the only player that left. People seem not to realize that.

As for Lebron getting the MVP, I disagree. I see that years Heat team being more well off without Lebron than the Bulls without Rose. Plus they had a bit worse of a record, obviously. How valuable can you be when you have another top 5 player to step up to the plate?

[ojandpizza]

^ are you serious? The Bulls lose Rose for the majority of the year and are still the top team in the east? MVP = most valuable player, not saying he isn't valuable but he definitely isn't the most valuable, the team is still very successful and his numbers weren't that great anyways..

Hell LeBron should have won MVP for leaving after watching the Cavs go from the top team 2 straight seasons to the worst team in the league, close to the worst team in history..

You're right though, they also lost Big Z.. That really hurt them lol

[OTCU]

Quote: Originally Posted by andeee

Yep. That's the point. The team wasn't under the same conditions that it was when Rose lead the team to the best record. Either Boozer or Noah were out for pretty much the entirety of Rose's MVP year, those are big pieces. If the Bulls were missing Boozer or Noah in the time that Rose was out then that record could look very different, do you not agree?

Yeah you're definitely right I was just saying that the bulls are team while the heat are pretty much top heavy as far as talent goes so if LeBron were to be out for a significant time then the heat would be worse than the bulls without rose imo. I mean it doesn't mean that much but didn't the bulls beat Miami without rose in the regular season.

[OTCU]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

^ are you serious? The Bulls lose Rose for the majority of the year and are still the top team in the east? MVP = most valuable player, not saying he isn't valuable but he definitely isn't the most valuable, the team is still very successful and his numbers weren't that great anyways.. Hell LeBron should have won MVP for leaving after watching the Cavs go from the top team 2 straight seasons to the worst team in the league, close to the worst team in history.. You're right though, they also lost Big Z.. That really hurt them lol

Don't forget shaq dude cmon

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by OTCU

Don't forget shaq dude cmon

lol you're right, Shaq was a monster that season, probably better than his years in LA... Plus Cleveland was still the top team in the league the year before Shaq arrived too

[andeee]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

^ are you serious? The Bulls lose Rose for the majority of the year and are still the top team in the east? MVP = most valuable player, not saying he isn't valuable but he definitely isn't the most valuable, the team is still very successful and his numbers weren't that great anyways.. Hell LeBron should have won MVP for leaving after watching the Cavs go from the top team 2 straight seasons to the worst team in the league, close to the worst team in history..

Once again, not comparable situations. I'm not going to type the same things over and over, read my previous posts and respond to them accordingly if you're just going to direct comments toward me that I've already responded to.

And as for the MVP award, it's not a hindsight award. This past season has absolutely zero bearing on the 10-11 season. It's pointless bringing up additional seasons to form an argument.

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

You're right though, they also lost Big Z.. That really hurt them lol

Or Shaq and Delonte West. And no Varejao for almost 2/3rds of the season due to injury. And Mo Williams was traded before the halfway mark of that season.

You're completely right though, just Big Z.

[OTCU]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

lol you're right, Shaq was a monster that season, probably better than his years in LA... Plus Cleveland was still the top team in the league the year before Shaq arrived too

Lol chill bro fix your sarcasm meter