NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Kobe - 93, Melo - 92, Rondo - 90

[youALREADYknow]

Quote: Originally Posted by iLLosophy

I understand what you are trying to say. The point I was making was, based on some of the ratings we saw in 2k12, and myself playing a year watching the types of jumpers people made in 2k12 last year, I don't think the person making the ratings fully understood the ramifications of giving Marreese Speights an 89 mid range jumper, at least when a human is controlling him. With the CPU, it's probably fine because of his tendencies will prevent him from going HAM since he's not programmed to take Carmelo like jumpers, but with a User that wants to let his sack hang, he can get away with making fair amount of contested jumpers with Speights in 2k12. In real life if a defender is not within like 1-1.5 arm lengths of Speights the moment he spots up (usually when he catches the ball), he's VERY money. But if a guy is within arms reach when he squares up, his shooting % falls dramatically (as with 95% of the rest of the respectable shooters in the nba). This dramatic fall in fg % doesn't convert in 2k12. I am hopeful since the 2k guys spent a lot more time working on tweaks this year that they figured this out and found some type of balance. Also with the new sliders Chris Smoove talked about, there might be a way to fix the issue i'm talking about on our own if it's still a problem out of the box.

Not to derail the thread, but there are still ways to account for that even in 2K12 with the limited tools at our disposal. Using the assisted FG% example from the previous post, around 80% of Speights mid-range shots are assisted compared to the league average of 60%. That needs to be accounted for. I'm not sure if you threw the 89 rating out as an example or not but his percentages wouldn't merit that rating anyways.

This might be a good topic for another thread, but it would be even better if these factors were objectively determined and included in the base roster and that's all that some of us are asking for at the end of the day.

[Colts18]

Quote: Originally Posted by youALREADYknow

Further more, one season of production shouldn't be the standard for a veteran player who has an entire resume of data. That's a shallow analysis..

You should have seen the Iguadola 3PT rating discussion we had in that other thread. In people's eyes, whatever you shot that season = your rating.

[youALREADYknow]

Quote: Originally Posted by Colts18

You should have seen the Iguadola 3PT rating discussion we had in that other thread. In people's eyes, whatever you shot that season = your rating.

LOL. I still remember people agreeing with the absurd 3PT rating that was given to Ricky Rubio after 40-50 attempts. That's the kind of statistical noise that needs to be removed from the discussion IMO.

[Colts18]

Nothing is worse than Kyrie Irving crying to 2KInsider that his dunks/vertical were too low. So what does 2KInsider do? Bump his vertical to a 91. He isn't even an athletic player in terms of verticality. I was pissed off at that.

[DukeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Colts18

Nothing is worse than Kyrie Irving crying to 2KInsider that his dunks/vertical were too low. So what does 2KInsider do? Bump his vertical to a 91. He isn't even an athletic player in terms of verticality. I was pissed off at that.

They had his dunking to where he was unable to dunk. If you've ever seen Kyrie play you would know he has serious hops. Did you not see that commercial where he dunked in a fat suit?

Edit: And besides that was Derrick Williams. Not Kyrie who wanted his dunking higher. I was one of the proponents who was complaining about Kyrie unable to dunk when they were finally able to put the rookies on the game.

[Colts18]

He does not have serious hops. He can dunk but to say he has serious hops is a joke. No where near a 90 in terms of vertical.

His dunk rating was fine so that he can only dunk on a fastbreak. He shouln't be dunking on anyone.

Don't tell me it wasn't Kyrie Irving when I know it was Kyrie. He asked for his dunks and vertical to be boosted and 2K Insider did exactly that.

Him having a 90 vertical is so undeserved.

[DukeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Colts18

He does not have serious hops. He can dunk but to say he has serious hops is a joke. No where near a 90 in terms of vertical. His dunk rating was fine so that he can only dunk on a fastbreak. He shouln't be dunking on anyone. Don't tell me it wasn't Kyrie Irving when I know it was Kyrie. He asked for his dunks and vertical to be boosted and 2K Insider did exactly that. Him having a 90 vertical is so undeserved.

He had a 38 dunk rating. That means he was physically unable to dunk in 2K.

2K boosted it to a 60 or so. Personally, I would have been happy if it was at least 40-41, because that's where the threshold of being able to dunk is in 2k12.

[chandlerbang]

Quote: Originally Posted by Colts18

You should have seen the Iguadola 3PT rating discussion we had in that other thread. In people's eyes, whatever you shot that season = your rating.

thats how the nba determines league leaders in each category but on court performance. current On court production is the only thing that should matter with rating adjustments NOT what a player did in 2009 smh